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What's new in iTunes 8.0.1?
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A simple restart has been fixing the problem for most people. In fact, log-out + log-in should fix it. And if you can't even stand to do that, then quit iTunes, use "Activity Monitor" to force quit "iTunes Helper," then reopen iTunes.
Anyone else?
The iPhone "(iPhone name)" cannot be synced. An unknown error occurred (13014).
I'm too lazy to look through all the comments but I had the same problem. I heard another site mention restarting the computer AND the iphone. So I unplugged phone from dock and restarted computer. I did the standard turning off of the phone and turning it back on. When everything was back and running I plugged iphone back in and it sync'd fine. From what I read this may not work for everyone, but it's worth a shot.
On a related note, the updating of applications works a lot better now.
No way in hell I'm upgrading to 8.0.1. I'm going to wait at least a week of positive proof. The last "point" update, 7.7.1, turned my iPhone 3g into complete pile of garbage. First it killed my apps, then it killed my iPod media, and lastly it killed the entire phone with the Apple Logo Screen of Death (ALSOD). I spent weeks emailing Steve Jobs and iTunes engineers back and forth, working on a solution, restoring my phone at least 30 times, and went through two iPhone replacements at an Apple Store. If they broke anything with this new update I'll be pissed. But I'm just going to go ahead and not risk it this time. I'll let the noobs find out for me. I waited out 8.0 to see if it fixed things, and it did. This update isn't worth the potential disaster.
I'm not bitter!! Heh.
So has this update killed anyone's iPhone yet??
I'm not bitter!! Heh.
So has this update killed anyone's iPhone yet??
That doesn't sound right. I've only got a 1.8GHz G4 and iTunes is using 0.10% of CPU power sitting idle.
I'm glad I'm not the only person seeing this.I agree, this is very annoying and not fixed yet!
do you mean 10 % of really 0,10 %
on my macbook pro it takes approx. 5 % in idle state.
Simpler way... right-click / ctrl-click on the column headers within iTunes, where you can choose all sorts of columns to add... You can also re-arrange by clicking and dragging...
deleting an unwanted file since iTunes 8 ????
I'm lost, I used to be able to right click and delete an audio file if I had downloaded a poor quality one, or if I had reformatted an audio file and had no further use for the lower quality copy, since iTunes 8 I have noticed the DELETE option has been removed from the right click drop down box, What's going on with that?? I need that to maintain my library efficiently. Is there something I'm missing or overlooking??
I'm lost, I used to be able to right click and delete an audio file if I had downloaded a poor quality one, or if I had reformatted an audio file and had no further use for the lower quality copy, since iTunes 8 I have noticed the DELETE option has been removed from the right click drop down box, What's going on with that?? I need that to maintain my library efficiently. Is there something I'm missing or overlooking??
Deleting an unwantede file
Thanks Nippy, Yeah, I did restart several times and have successfully removed that duplicate file, still not sure whether I was just in another view or the restart restored my right click functionality, but yeah you're right, I should've tried that first. Thanks it worked.
Thanks Nippy, Yeah, I did restart several times and have successfully removed that duplicate file, still not sure whether I was just in another view or the restart restored my right click functionality, but yeah you're right, I should've tried that first. Thanks it worked.
Deleting an unwanted file
Thanks Nippy, Yeah, I did restart several times and have successfully removed that duplicate file, still not sure whether I was just in another view or the restart restored my right click functionality, but yeah you're right, I should've tried that first. Thanks it worked.
Thanks Nippy, Yeah, I did restart several times and have successfully removed that duplicate file, still not sure whether I was just in another view or the restart restored my right click functionality, but yeah you're right, I should've tried that first. Thanks it worked.
Don't know if it's been posted yet but they have added a Genuis button beside the snap back button in the (name escapes me) so I'll call it information "window" up top.
They also removed the eject button from the bottom right hand corner of iTunes when in the iPod/iPhone window in iTunes 8.0. I used it alot.
They also removed the eject button from the bottom right hand corner of iTunes when in the iPod/iPhone window in iTunes 8.0.
I used it alot.
Well, I wish that had helped. I closed the window and sat and watched. iTunes continued to just sit there fluctuating between 20% and 23% while I watched. No sign of dropping after the window was closed.
Honestly, that's more what I'd expect! I just don't understand why I see such high numbers...
Well, at least I know that I'm not alone in this. There's clearly something odd going on here. I wonder if it has to do with the size of one's music library. (My work computer has almost nothing in it, whereas my G4PB has >20GB of music, not including videos, podcasts, etc.)
Well, I'll just keep looking for a solution. Maybe someday I'll find one...
Stupid-long iPhone backups AGAIN!!!
Anyone else back to hours-long iPhone backups? iPhone 2.1 fixed it, but iTunes 8.0.1 has broken it again....
In fact, it's taking longer now than it did pre-2.1.
This is getting ridiculous.
Anyone else back to hours-long iPhone backups? iPhone 2.1 fixed it, but iTunes 8.0.1 has broken it again....
In fact, it's taking longer now than it did pre-2.1.
This is getting ridiculous.
Absolutely not! https://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/02/apple-releases-itunes-8-0-1-stability-and-bug-fixes/
In fact, it may be hurting iPhones more than helping them, it seems like so far
Smart yeah....but Genius??...uhm not yet!
MAN they should update that Genius function...it does not recognize HALF of my music......it recognizes one song by an artist and then tells me with that same artist's other song that it does not recognize it..aaaaaargh!
make it REALLY smart....or don't call it Genius.....iLike shows none of these problems....when it doesn't recognize an artist, you simply add it and voila!
MAN they should update that Genius function...it does not recognize HALF of my music......it recognizes one song by an artist and then tells me with that same artist's other song that it does not recognize it..aaaaaargh!
make it REALLY smart....or don't call it Genius.....iLike shows none of these problems....when it doesn't recognize an artist, you simply add it and voila!
I mean 0.10% (i.e. 0,10) or 1/10 of 1%. Like I said, that's on a 1.8GHz G4 7448 (NewerTech CPU upgrade) on a former dual 553MHz Digital Audio. I've got 1.5GB of ram and an ATI 9800Pro video card along with a Sonnet SATA card (with two 500GB drives) and a Sonnet USB 2.0 card. Basically, it's a heavily upgraded G4 Digital Audio, nothing special. That's under 10.4.11 Tiger. I've got Leopard installed, but I haven't checked the numbers there as I still tend to use Tiger as it lets me play older OS9 games and what not that won't run under Leopard and other than Handbrake, I don't have anything that is Leopard only software-wise. I also have two AppleTV units that are connected to it at all times as part of my whole house audio system.
Ok, I'm playing an Apple Lossless song right now (as opposed to idle) and it's averaging 3.5% CPU use. If I turn the new visualizer on, it uses around 70-80%, though.
I would love to know what the difference between our systems is. On my 1.67GHz PB G4 (1.5 GB RAM), as I've said before, I typically see around 20% when idle or playing music. Playing videos, it can max out the processor. As I'm running Leopard, is it possible that this is a Leopard issue, not an iTunes issue? Could you check to see what you get under Leopard? Otherwise, I just don't see the difference between our systems that would account for my system seeing such a high iTunes load.
Thanks.
you also have to account for periodic background checking of podcasts etc., that iTunes does. I just checked my CPU activity and found iTunes was using ~20% in its hidden state while downloading a podcast (which in itself seems ludicrous?!) , then it dropped to 0,1%. Intermittently it goes up to ~20% for a short while without an apparent reason.
Playing back an iTunes-store-bought 256kbps file iTunes uses about 6% of the CPU. A lossless file is averaging 5.5% right now (which is more than the reported figure on the G4).
(This is all on Leopard on a Core Duo 2ghz Macbook)
OK, I've booted into 10.5.5 with the latest System Updates added. After waiting for MDS to finish its Spotlight update, I got 0.1% for iTunes in idle and again around 3.2% for iTunes while playing an Apple Lossless file with an occasional 6% spike. I then proceeded to update Firefox in Leopard to 3.0.3 as it offered when I started Firefox and now with Firefox running and another Apple Lossless file playing, I'm now getting between 2.5 and 2.9% from iTunes in Activity Monitor with no spikes. As I type, an MP3 file started playing (Back in Black) and iTunes is averaging between 2.4 and 2.5% solid while playing. If I turn on the visualizer, it jumps between 68% and 72%, which is lower than Tiger, but I see an occasional stutter that didn't happen in Tiger.
After turning off the visualizer, iTunes started jumping between 3.5% and 5.5% and seems to still be jumping between them with the same MP3 playing. iTunes started off using 49 MB of real memory and jumped to 51 when playing the first music file. After turning on the visualizer and then off again it's now using 58 MB, which makes me wonder if the visualizer has a memory leak or something associated with it. It's now playing Hell's Bells MP3 and the numbers are the same as a moment ago at 58MB and 3.5% jumping around to 5.5% and even an occasional 7.3%.
Keep in mind these are numbers for iTunes itself in Activity Monitor. If you're looking at the overall CPU use or availability, it reads different, which here jumps between 4.8% and 12% with occasional 16% jumps in User%. Idle is jumping between 80%-88% with an occasional 78% dip and 90% spike. System% is sitting around 6%.
I started an AAC 256kbit song (Don't Dream It's Over by Crowded House purchased from the iTunes Store as an iTune Plus song) and iTunes is now reporting 3.3-3.5% solid with a 6% spike about once every 6 or 7 seconds or so. This cycle is repeating steadily. Memory usage has increased to 59MB real.
I started "Cloudbreak" Apple Lossless by Alan Parsons from the On Air album. Memory usage jumped to 64MB (still wondering about a memory leak in iTunes but thinking now it's not the visualizer). CPU use is jumping between 3.2% and 5.5%. I switched to "Wine From The Water" by Alan Parsons off Try Anything Once. Memory usage jumped to 66MB. CPU use is still steady between 3.2 and 5.5%. I changed to "Losing Grip" by Avril Lavigne. CPU use is steady as before, but memory use jumped to 78MB. I would venture there is DEFINITELY a memory leak in iTunes 8.0.1 and it's pretty significant. I can imagine iTunes eventually crashing or making the system unstable after a day or two of constant playing if the trend continues. I'll have to compare in Tiger and see if the problem is there as well.
Ok, I started "Complicated" lossless and it jumped to 88MB and then dropped to 78MB, which is the first time I've seen a drop in memory usage after starting a song. I'll try a series of songs next. CPU use is still 3.5% on average. Ok, I jumped 9-10 more songs through and it's now at 93.8MB real memory use. I do see some spikes in memory usage and then drops so it's possible there's some kind of memory buffer or something in use and not an actual memory leak being witnessed. It's too soon to tell, I would say. I'll try more songs. CPU use is still steady at around 3.4% with occasional jumps to 5.5%. OK, 33 song jumps later and real memory usage is at 133.85MB and CPU usage is still at 3.4% for iTunes.
I can't say why others have significantly higher CPU usage, but I do think iTunes has a significant memory leak as it continually consumes more memory the more songs you play with no major corrections over time with around 50 songs through. I'll try some more tests with Tiger next and see if memory leaks through as well. But first I'll try playing a few music videos for comparison.
Ok, I'm playing the music video for Winter by Tori Amos which I encoded using Handbrake on my PC from her Fade to Red DVD set with a setting for AppleTV. It's using around 70% CPU and 158MB of memory (en total since I have not quit and restarted iTunes yet). Ok, correction, memory use is now in flux as the video is playing and is actually dropping and rising between 150 and 154MB or so. I switched to Caught a Lite Sneeze video and memory usage spiked to 178 briefly followed by a drop back to 154MB. CPU useage is still hanging around the 70% range. I switched to a music video I bought from the iTunes store instead, which is Sheryl Crow's "If It Makes You Happy" and it's averaging around 70% CPU also, but memory usage dropped to 152MB. I'm now running "Atom Bomb" by Fluke also purchased at the iTunes store and memory usage stayed the same, but CPU use dropped to around 60%. Ok, I thought I'd try a widescreen video so I put on "Touch My Body" by Mariah Carey and CPU use dropped to 55% and memory usage to 148MB.
Switching back to an Apple Lossless file, memory usage dropped to 139MB, which is still higher than where it left off before I started trying music videos. CPU use is back to 3.4% or so. I jumped through another 10 music files or so and memory usage is up to 167MB (so it's STILL RISING).
I just quit iTunes and will now restart and see what happens to memory usage. It's back to 0.1% CPU use at idle and 48MB of memory. So it apparently does at least release its memory when you quit it. The only problem it could cause me is that I run iTunes 24/7 as part of my whole house audio server. I'll see what it does after having it running for a few days or a week. Of course, if you don't use it, it won't use any more memory, though.
This ends Leopard testing. I'll now see if it behaves any different under Tiger for memory use.
Edit: Ok, I ran a similar set of songs and music videos under 10.4.11 Tiger and the results were extremely similar. The memory usage rose at similar rates and the CPU use was about the same.
I also ran iTunes 8.0.1.11 in WindowsXP SP3 on my AMD 5600+ machine with 2 Gigs of memory. Memory usage also increased there as well, but the CPU percentages were much lower. Considering it's a much more powerful dual-core CPU that shouldn't be surprising.