What's the killer feature of iOS7?

[mcdj]

Not just picture. What if I have to submit a report to government agency on government site?

Which government? Which site? What kind of file?

You can upload a RAR file to the government of Namibia's web portal, but not to their Minister of Affairs office. For that office, you can upload a zip, under 12mb. Over 12mb and you must use the Chad embassy's website and request a Namibian transfer, Wednesdays from 11-4 pm GMT. Of course, you will have to upload your credentials in PDF format before you can submit the request. To upload a PDF, you will need VPN access and a Kerberos key, unless you are a DJ, in which case you can convert your PDF to an mp3 at 128kbps, no larger than 6mb.

Seriously. You can come up with a million scenarios for things you are unable to do on any smartphone, period. What is your point?

 

[GoSh4rks]

Umm, you can upload a photo to dpreview from an iPhone/iPad. Have you tried?

You can't using their website/Safari. Haven't looked to see if they have an app for that. Even if they do, relying on an app is not the solution for the millions of different websites there are to upload to.

You can't even attach a pdf file while posting to this forum

 

[SakuraSuki]

Which government? Which site? What kind of file?

You can upload a RAR file to the government of Namibia's web portal, but not to their Minister of Affairs office. For that office, you can upload a zip, under 12mb. Over 12mb and you must use the Chad embassy's website and request a Namibian transfer, Wednesdays from 11-4 pm GMT. Of course, you will have to upload your credentials in PDF format before you can submit the request. To upload a PDF, you will need VPN access and a Kerberos key, unless you are a DJ, in which case you can convert your PDF to an mp3 at 128kbps, no larger than 6mb.

Seriously. You can come up with a million scenarios for things you are unable to do on any smartphone, period. What is your point?

The point is iOS isn't just on iPhone. iPad suppose to be a productive device but everything gets complicated.

 

[GoSh4rks]

Umm, you can upload a photo to dpreview from an iPhone/iPad. Have you tried?

Here's a pic...uploaded from the ipad I'm typing on.

I just tried to find an official app for that. One doesn't exist. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not talking about uploading a photo to this forum.

 

[Beardyman]

You don't need an app for that. Safari can indeed upload any pictures that are in your photos app to simple websites just like a full blown desktop computer can. Go ahead, just try it. It works since iOS 6 I belive, no jailbreak required.

 

[mcdj]

You can't using their website/Safari. Haven't looked to see if they have an app for that. Even if they do, relying on an app is not the solution for the millions of different websites there are to upload to.

You can't even attach a pdf file while posting to this forum

Ok I guess you're trying to upload to a gallery on dpreview, not just attach a photo on their forum (which you can do from iOS). Their gallery uploader is Flash based. So the real issue isn't about uploading a photo to dpreview galleries, it's why, after 6 years of iPhone dominance, some sites still rely on Flash for critical interaction with their site and have no non-Flash mobile alternative.

Here's a PDF uploaded with iUploader Pro...

 

[GoSh4rks]

Here's a PDF uploaded with iUploader Pro...

Uploaded with an app. That is part of the problem - especially when Apple/iOS known for simplicity.

 

[tkwolf]

it doesn't have a killer feature, it's all just augmentations/enhancements really.

 

[aimee.elizabeth]

LOL... Apple really does have people like you blindly follow whatever they do and defend Apple to the death... I really mean that. I cannot understand what is the harm on Apple to get these feature on iOS? You are the people defending Apple for not having copy and paste, not having multitasking and so on. There probably more users like me switch to Android and Apple will probably face seriously facing challenges from Android or other serval years down the road. iOS decline is already start showing and it is going to be only faster decline if Apple keeps its stalled iOS

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Not just picture. What if I have to submit a report to government agency on government site?

I do love apple products because hey, they work well for my purpose. But how am I defending Apple when all I've said that is you are being stupid when you expect an iphone or an iPad to be a full blown computer? And what does it matter to you how Apple will fare years down the road? It just seems to me that you're arguing just for argument's sake. Because if you were smart, you would have gotten whatever gadget that suits your need and moved on with your life; yet you're here, expecting a company like Apple to change it's products and philosophies based on your personal and trivial needs. And I love it how you call me a fanboy while you're on MR criticizing Apple to death, if that's not obsession, I don't know what is.

 

[mcdj]

Uploaded with an app. That is part of the problem - especially when Apple/iOS known for simplicity.

Wait, lemme guess, when the iPhone came out in 2007, you were one of the people who complained it had no apps...

So is Apple supposed to guess what every desktop-esque need of every user might possibly be and build that functionality into the OS?

If the iPhone stock OS is missing a feature, there's usually an app for it. That's why there are apps.

If the iPhone doesn't natively do what you want it to do, and you refuse to use an app that does, then I guess the iPhone isn't for you. Pretty simple.

I'd love it if a city bus went directly from my apartment to my office, but it doesn't, so I take a cab. I don't get on the bus and then complain to the driver that it doesn't go where I need to go. Could it physically go directly to my office? With a few extra turns, sure. But it doesn't, and it most likely never will.

I'm not saying a file system wouldn't be cool, with uploads, etc, built right into the OS, but there are so many apps that cover these functions that it's rather pointless to complain.

 

[GoSh4rks]

So is Apple supposed to guess what every desktop-esque need of every user might possibly be and build that functionality into the OS?

If the iPhone stock OS is missing a feature, there's usually an app for it. That's why there are apps.

If the iPhone doesn't natively do what you want it to do, and you refuse to use an app that does, then I guess the iPhone isn't for you. Pretty simple.

I'd love it if a city bus went directly from my apartment to my office, but it doesn't, so I take a cab. I don't get on the bus and then complain to the driver that it doesn't go where I need to go. Could it physically go directly to my office? With a few extra turns, sure. But it doesn't, and it most likely never will.

I'm not saying a file system wouldn't be cool, with uploads, etc, built right into the OS, but there are so many apps that cover these functions that it's rather pointless to complain.

If we kept this attitude, we would have likely never gotten apps, copy/paste, multitasking, notification banners, etc.

It isn't like uploading a pdf stored in iBooks/whatever is much different from uploading a photo from the gallery anyways. Data is data.

Additionally, you don't need an app to do the same thing in desktop Safari. Why should iOS Safari be that much different?

 

[mcdj]

If we kept this attitude, we would have likely never gotten apps, copy/paste, multitasking, notification banners, etc.

It isn't like uploading a pdf stored in iBooks/whatever is much different from uploading a photo from the gallery anyways. Data is data.

Additionally, you don't need an app to do the same thing in desktop Safari. Why should iOS Safari be that much different?

Ok fair argument. Though don't assume we got copy paste etc by complaining on macrumors. Send apple your suggestions.

As for uploading PDFs from iBooks, I'm willing to bet the book publishers don't want people sharing anything from within the iBooks app any more than record labels want people sharing music from the music app. The file lockdown could easily be due to contractual constraints.

Any and all desktop comparisons are pretty much moot. A desktop will always do more.

 

[fullauto]

Are u suggesting that market share deciding a good OS? Then OS X is pretty bad OS... Single digit maerket share wordwide, iOS share is far away than Android. So is iOS a bad OS?

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Aren't Apple think iPad is the Post-PC device that gonna replace PC? If they think that is the case, then they'd better do it soon than later

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I switch to Android phone long time ago, and I am about to switch to Android tablet. Only thing hold me back is several asp I am using daily are not available on Abdroid.

You can suggest each users who aren't happy with current iOS switch until you have enough users switched than Apple is really in trouble just like BlackBerry.

Please do switch to Android, then go and post on their boards. What waffle.

 

[jmmo20]

AirDrop. Can't wait for third party devs to make it shine!

airdrop is annoying. In order to fragment the market and make you buy a new ipad, apple has removed the airdrop capability from the 3rd generation iPad which i bought from apple less than a year ago (october 2012). Considering the hardware is exactly the same in the 3rd and 4th gen ipads, the only difference being the ligthning connector, I think it's rather outrageous that apple has decided to keep this feature from the 3rd gen but not the 4th gen (as I sad, 4th gen is really 3.1 gen).

 

[cobbyco]

airdrop is annoying. In order to fragment the market and make you buy a new ipad, apple has removed the airdrop capability from the 3rd generation iPad which i bought from apple less than a year ago (october 2012). Considering the hardware is exactly the same in the 3rd and 4th gen ipads, the only difference being the ligthning connector, I think it's rather outrageous that apple has decided to keep this feature from the 3rd gen but not the 4th gen (as I sad, 4th gen is really 3.1 gen).

Actually it's a hardware limitation. Only the very brand new devices have the new Wi-Fi chip, which is required for AirDrop. The iPad 3rd Gen doesn't have this new Wi-Fi chip, whereas the iPad 4th Gen does.
Don't believe me? The iPad mini can also do AirDrop, but the iPad 2 (which is internally basically the same) can't because at the time Apple weren't using compatible Wi-Fi chips.

 

[Rav7]

The point is iOS isn't just on iPhone. iPad suppose to be a productive device but everything gets complicated.

Iam a apple user . I own a MacBook Air , iPad 2 . And I like apple products .

What you are saying is perfectly right . The problem here is asking for any features which the competition already has or criticizing apple is treated like a sin here . And then there this usual childish response go to android or don't come here .

There is no point in convincing the fanatics of iOS here. Dint you see how control center is treated as cool feature which actually the competition is having since long ?

Don't waste time in debates with fanatics all will you get is " buy android and don't come here "

I personally want apple to outclass competition with features were competition will play catch up but it seems right now apple is playing catch up when it comes to features .

 

[LostSoul80]

The Safari icon is a total breakthrough, perhaps one of the best innovations of the last century. It's so beautiful it screams to be tapped.

And not to mention other icons.

 

[ValSalva]

The Safari icon is a total breakthrough, perhaps one of the best innovations of the last century. It's so beautiful it screams to be tapped.

I think the Smithsonian is in the process of developing a permanent exhibit for this icon

 

[tymaster50]

It is unbelievable how far some of you guys will go to defend Apple. What if I wanted to upload a photo of my vacation to a photography contest? DPReview challenges come immediately to mind. Would that be legitimate enough for you?

Well that's weird because I can upload photos from my phone to most of the sites I try it.

 

[BaldiMac]

1. Before iOS 3, copy & paste was considered not useful. Before iOS 4, people think nobody multi-tasking on their phone. Before iOS 7, people think control centre is not needed. BUT all of them turns out to be killer feature for each iOS release.

Those are what we call strawmen arguments. Some people may have made those arguments in the past. But not the people that you are having this discussion with.

The point I am making is that Apple is always late on implementing all needed features.

1. The point that you made that I was rebutting was your claim that "The problem is at iOS gains zero useful functionality wise improvement." And "iOS adds ZERO improvements on usability..."

2. Copy and paste is a perfect example of what you are ignoring. Do you happen to remember that Android didn't add universal copy and paste until two years after the iPhone? Instead, they immediately released a haphazard implementation that only worked, poorly, in some situations just to cross it off the feature list.

iOS has been so stall and the while iOS still around 2007's thinking.

Or Apple has different priorities than you would like.

2. How does Safari's card view even close to multi-tasking card view? It is like a bike company suing car company for using a tire. These two serves complete different functionalities and purpose.

And yet they look basically the same. But somehow, to you, Apple stole that look. Crazy.

3. "Most people use things for what they can do." Except what they can do are so limited making the whole OS old. And no, new UI doesn't make iOS new. It is like painting a 50 years old house new, but the house is still old.

I have no idea what you think that means.

Imaging you go travel somewhere for a month only with your iPad. You find a good job, then you trying to apply for it and you can't upload your resume because Safari doesn't let you do it.

Then imagine you spent $1.99 on iUploader, uploaded the file, and then got the job you always wanted!

4. "Probably whatever advantages they have at the time." So far, i can't think anything beside better app selection.

That's because we were talking about a hypothetical future that thus far only exists in your imagination.

 

[rtomyj]

Iam a apple user . I own a MacBook Air , iPad 2 . And I like apple products .

What you are saying is perfectly right . The problem here is asking for any features which the competition already has or criticizing apple is treated like a sin here . And then there this usual childish response go to android or don't come here .

There is no point in convincing the fanatics of iOS here. Dint you see how control center is treated as cool feature which actually the competition is having since long ?

Don't waste time in debates with fanatics all will you get is " buy android and don't come here "

I personally want apple to outclass competition with features were competition will play catch up but it seems right now apple is playing catch up when it comes to features .

Sad part is most of the things from Google IO we're catch up to Apples iOS6 and below offerings. Hangout and their GameCenter come to mind. However, you don't hear that since the vocal people on the internet tend to like Android and swear on its innovation. Which of you really breakdown is just copying from iOS, Jailbreaks, WebOS. Etc.

 

[Nautilus007]

I wish they had a built in Dropbox functionality for iCloud.

 

[matttye]

So is Apple supposed to guess what every desktop-esque need of every user might possibly be and build that functionality into the OS?

If Apple doesn't have the foresight to see that people might want to be able to upload files in Safari - something that is standard in the vast majority of web browsers on all platforms - I'd be very concerned!

They've obviously decided against it, rather than not considered it.

 

[Gogurt48]

The Safari icon is a total breakthrough, perhaps one of the best innovations of the last century. It's so beautiful it screams to be tapped.

And not to mention other icons.

Yeah! I also like the taste of New Coke, don't you?

 

[Rav7]

Sad part is most of the things from Google IO we're catch up to Apples iOS6 and below offerings. Hangout and their GameCenter come to mind. However, you don't hear that since the vocal people on the internet tend to like Android and swear on its innovation. Which of you really breakdown is just copying from iOS, Jailbreaks, WebOS. Etc.

The point here is not about who is coping who , those discussions are left to fanboys and trolls .

The point is if anybody ask for a feature or if says anything bad about apple why is he damned ?

For your information I don't own a android phone or any android product nor iam planing to have one . And care zero if android is innovative or not .but the fact remains that their are some features in android which iOS lacks at this moment the ones which Sakurasuki mentioned .

But the response given like " go buy android don't come here " if someone says apple is playing catchup is just not appropriate .