What's wrong with Apple?

[Winona Northdakota]

What's wrong with Apple?

Apple sells expensive software and hardware and use buyers as beta testers for their operative systems, more than anyone else (free operative systems apart). But even so, most of their buyers defend them and everything, is kind of strange. The hardware, I've to say, is expensive but it's very well made although it uses to lack power, well designed, and the customer service is superlative. /QUOTE]


OS X comes free with the hardware, updates are free, even upgrades to the next OS has been inexpensive or no cost. OS X is Unix. There is a command line shell, Bash, Tish, or what ever you prefer, which gives users the power and freedom to do what ever they want. OS X is way more powerful than the latest Windows 8, which has all kinds of trouble even running something as mainstream as Google Chrome.

 

[nando87]

Apple sells expensive software and hardware and use buyers as beta testers for their operative systems, more than anyone else (free operative systems apart). But even so, most of their buyers defend them and everything, is kind of strange. The hardware, I've to say, is expensive but it's very well made although it uses to lack power, well designed, and the customer service is superlative. /QUOTE]


OS X comes free with the hardware, updates are free, even upgrades to the next OS has been inexpensive or no cost. OS X is Unix. There is a command line shell, Bash, Tish, or what ever you prefer, which gives users the power and freedom to do what ever they want. OS X is way more powerful than the latest Windows 8, which has all kinds of trouble even running something as mainstream as Google Chrome.

And that's part of the reason why the hardware is more expensive and why they're not just a hardware company, or that's what they say. Nothing is for free man.

Well if you want to believe that. Call me when you can use CoDeSys, Simatic s7 graph or any other industrial software on OS X, not to talk about something as simple as using office properly, or autocad, or use solidworks at all... Don't be ridiculous, even the factory building the mac pro uses windows. Every serious application requires windows, and I don't know what you are referring to when you talk about trouble running google chrome, I use firefox, maybe you would be so kind to explain it. OS X is a toyish OS, that's something everybody who is not a fanboy understands, for God's sake, it can't even manage to send mails properly, if you don't use the icloud account it sends them repeated twice

With a brand new 2500 usd laptop its graphics lag as hell. Now you tell me all that people using and developing maths software, industrial applications software for equipment worth millions of $, office software are stupid and don't know about os X and its "enormous advantages". And it works, that's all I know, I don't want to know geek theory about unix or whatever story you like to dream about.

I have a mac, but for every serious application, I use windows via bootcamp.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

the problem is they are still selling their products like hot cakes. until they see a sales decline, I doubt they will care much honestly.

I feel like when Steve said these products should be an extension of ourselves and help us live better, he really meant it. you believed him.

with Tim, he seems very halfhearted about it when he speaks about the human connection. and his lingo of "awesome", "epic", "killer", and "amazeballs" is very off putting to me. a CEO of his nature shouldn't talk like that, I feel. if it was John Legere saying that, I'd be fine with it. but not Tim. I think it kills his credibility.

Cook is a different man than Steve. He is likely, in spite of all that Apple University stuff, having a large impact on Apple. A totalitarian top-down model with Steve being at the top wasn't doing to work well after the 'top' is taken off.

And as far as a CEO talking like that, I disagree to some extent. I see nothing wrong with a CEO talking up their products. That's part of his job. I see nothing wrong with a CEO 'getting dirty with the unwashed masses' that use their products. Apple has always had a somewhat religions/evangelizing style of marketing, and using the parlance of the time is better than him coming out and giving the non-pep speech that so many CEO's give these days.

Whatever happens in the future, Apple needs to keep their 'rebel' image with their base. Apple management has changed, the 'Jobs at the top' model is gone. Change was and is inevitable.

Acting like iOS 8 is the first time Apple has shot themselves is counter productive, no matter how embarrassing.

My fear is that more 'traditional management' methods will sneak into Apple and take a corporate rebel and neuter it and take away the mystique that was Apple. Apple under Jobs was run like a frat. It's going to be hard for one man, that is not Steve Jobs, to continue that ethos.

I think Tim has done as well as can be expected, and Apple seems to be showing the product management style that set it apart from other corporations. Hell, having the balls to stand up and take the reigns is hard enough...

Is Apple 'ruined'?

Reports of (Apple's) death have been greatly exaggerated...

My biggest fear is that Apple has too many products again. That was what hobbled the 'post-Steve pre-Steve' Apple, and nearly killed it.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

And that's part of the reason why the hardware is more expensive and why they're not just a hardware company, or that's what they say. Nothing is for free man.

Well if you want to believe that. Call me when you can use CoDeSys, Simatic s7 graph or any other industrial software on OS X, not to talk about something as simple as using office properly, or autocad, or use solidworks at all... Don't be ridiculous, even the factory building the mac pro uses windows. Every serious application requires windows, and I don't know what you are referring to when you talk about trouble running google chrome, I use firefox, maybe you would be so kind to explain it. OS X is a toyish OS, that's something everybody who is not a fanboy understands, for God's sake, it can't even manage to send mails properly, if you don't use the icloud account it sends them repeated twice

With a brand new 2500 usd laptop its graphics lag as hell. Now you tell me all that people using and developing maths software, industrial applications software for equipment worth millions of $, office software are stupid and don't know about os X and its "enormous advantages". And it works, that's all I know, I don't want to know geek theory about unix or whatever story you like to dream about.

I have a mac, but for every serious application, I use windows via bootcamp.

If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always gotten.

Just a slight variation on the 'Apple's OSX is a toy operating system'.

I have gone from using Windows to OS X, and back and forth, and haven't missed anything. There aren't as many of the 'high end' applications because people aren't getting paid for the development of those applications.

To me, running AutoCAD on a Mac would be second nature, running SAS would be awesome.

The ting is that *someone* needs to come up with another 'killer app' that will create the movement that will start the migration towards OS X.

Desktop publishing created the Mac as a serious machine, music and sound production is driving many to use the Mac too.

To dismiss it as a contender in the business world is ignorant and shortsighted. With the Windows fragmentation, and Microsoft desperately trying to get people to dump XP and 7, it looks like Microsoft is ceding the future to someone else, and only fools will see that their future includes only the haphazard and pointless stumbling of Microsoft as they try to stay relevant.

'The industry' should be flaying into Microsoft for their idea that Windows 10 will be more like Windows 7. I find that hysterical... So all of the **** and hell they put their user base through was for what? An inside joke?

Microsoft was reckless and arrogant. They should pay a price for that, but in a media dazzled by shining pieces of bull poop, they will once again escape punishment, but will the users be so quick to forgive them.

It would seem that if OS X is a 'toy based' OS, that Windows is the light pole that frightened drunks are clinging to out of desperation...

Whatever...

 

[Arran]

My biggest fear is that Apple has too many products again.

And when Tim unveiled the 2014 iPad lineup; QED (seriously):

 

[flameproof]

I've reported this issue to Apple....

Apple is pretty much the last company that listens to customers. Not that other fortune 500 company are better though. Ever tried to report a problem to eBay?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

And when Tim unveiled the 2014 iPad lineup; QED (seriously):

And for the early cellular iPads, aren't there three different models depending on the service needed? YIKES...

 

[nando87]

If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always gotten.

Just a slight variation on the 'Apple's OSX is a toy operating system'.

I have gone from using Windows to OS X, and back and forth, and haven't missed anything. There aren't as many of the 'high end' applications because people aren't getting paid for the development of those applications.

To me, running AutoCAD on a Mac would be second nature, running SAS would be awesome.

The ting is that *someone* needs to come up with another 'killer app' that will create the movement that will start the migration towards OS X.

Desktop publishing created the Mac as a serious machine, music and sound production is driving many to use the Mac too.

To dismiss it as a contender in the business world is ignorant and shortsighted. With the Windows fragmentation, and Microsoft desperately trying to get people to dump XP and 7, it looks like Microsoft is ceding the future to someone else, and only fools will see that their future includes only the haphazard and pointless stumbling of Microsoft as they try to stay relevant.

'The industry' should be flaying into Microsoft for their idea that Windows 10 will be more like Windows 7. I find that hysterical... So all of the **** and hell they put their user base through was for what? An inside joke?

Microsoft was reckless and arrogant. They should pay a price for that, but in a media dazzled by shining pieces of bull poop, they will once again escape punishment, but will the users be so quick to forgive them.

It would seem that if OS X is a 'toy based' OS, that Windows is the light pole that frightened drunks are clinging to out of desperation...

Whatever...

Who cares about windows' fragmentation, that is pure apple's hoax, the software is compatible from xp to win 8.1 or 7 64 bits to 8.1 64 bits and it will be the same when windows 10 is released, as it's the hardware. Mac OS X can't even manage to be compatible with its coetaneous hardware.

Windows is not OS x, it's not thought to make you buy a new OS and hardware every 3 years, and because most business (multi-million and even billion USD business -humm apple...-) have been able to work efficiently using windows xp until now, this only demonstrates how capable that windows from 13 years ago has been. Do you remember when macs came with two mac os installed because none of them were useful? The most ridiculous thing I've seen in my whole life when talking about computers

I wouldn't talk about "microsoft desperation" when the other contender is Apple. Have you ever seen a microsoft windows desktop OS keynote or ad with them talking about apple? No. You know what I mean, true? Do you know how much share does windows have when talking about desktop systems? and pro systems? and industrial systems?

Come on... It looks like you are a bit alienated by the Apple' marketing army.

 

[kazmac]

I'm not good with dates, but I do remember product introductions. The beginning of Apple's software quality problems on the Mac side started with OS X Lion and also with the versions of iLife after the ones that included iMovie 06 HD. I think that was also around the time Bertrand Serlet left, who had headed OS X development. Now Scott Forstall who was heading iOS has been gone for some years. And of course Steve Jobs has been gone for three years, but even before then he probably had taken on a "big picture" role for some time and had been less hands-on.

My own theory is that Apple is a victim of its seemingly unstoppable success. I tried several years ago to get bugs hammered out with Apple's engineering team going through all the right channels and they were recalcitrant. I have the same networking issues between my Macs today that I had years ago. Mavericks cleaned up some bugs with TextEdit and QuickTime but many bugs linger. I don't think Tim Cook uses the products enough to know when something isn't right. I'm sure many people remember the summer before iOS 6 came out. All the developers running betas of it said Maps weren't ready. It was a train wreck everyone saw coming. How did the CEO of Apple not see it? Back when I was trying to get Apple to pay attention to bugs in the Mac OS the general feeling in society was that Apple had superior technology to Microsoft. There is a lag in what the media reports and what the situation actually is.

There's a saying in medicine that a patient does not all of a sudden deteriorate—the doctor all of a sudden notices. I think that's what's happened. The bugs I use to encounter were on the Mac side, and I don't think people use their Macs as heavily as I do mine so these were things people didn't care about. But when it hits iOS--that's when people care. That's when people notice.

I'm not sure if the problems Apple has with software have to do with Jobs dying or not. The timeline coincides with when he became sick and was technically CEO but may have not been hands on. Tim Cook was apparently a whiz at whittling away fat and pitting manufacturers against each other, improving margins. Jony Ive is apparently a whiz at staring into the distance and coming up with designs. Steve Jobs, though he wasn't an engineer, was fascinated with software and GUIs. He certainly knew a good user experience from a bad one. Of course Apple has tens of thousands of employees. But the ones at the top do seem to make a difference.

I, too, have an all Apple ecosystem. And it doesn't work anymore—whether it's controlling my Apple TV, screensharing and file sharing between Macs, AirPlay audio dropping out, or various WiFi issues—things don't work great.

I agree with this 100% percent. This last year has been the absolute worst for Apple software in my case. Mavericks nearly bricked my 2010 iMac last November and she's been having issues on and off ever since (with clean installs, I cannot reinstall Mountain Lion and I've tried.)

Granted I did not have the iPhone 6 long enough to run into problems with iOS 8, but the extreme screw ups of folks who had brand new iPhone 6/6 Plus which did not work is very unnerving.

Apple seem more concerned with style over substance now, and yearly software updates are proving that.

I was looking forward to replacing this iMac sooner rather than later, but with the recent software faux pas and lacking hardware releases (along with shaky Quality Control) make me want to hold onto this 2010 machine for as long as possible. I am not into beautiful, I am into ease of use. I hope Apple fix what is wrong while they still can.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Who cares about windows' fragmentation, that is pure apple's hoax, the software is compatible from xp to win 8.1 or 7 64 bits to 8.1 64 bits and it will be the same when windows 10 is released, as it's the hardware. Mac OS X can't even manage to be compatible with its coetaneous hardware.

Windows is not OS x, it's not thought to make you buy a new OS and hardware every 3 years, and because most business (multi-million and even billion USD business -humm apple...-) have been able to work efficiently using windows xp until now, this only demonstrates how capable that windows from 13 years ago has been. Do you remember when macs came with two mac os installed because none of them were useful? The most ridiculous thing I've seen in my whole life when talking about computers

I wouldn't talk about "microsoft desperation" when the other contender is Apple. Have you ever seen a microsoft windows desktop OS keynote or ad with them talking about apple? No. You know what I mean, true? Do you know how much share does windows have when talking about desktop systems? and pro systems? and industrial systems?

Come on... It looks like you are a bit alienated by the Apple' marketing army.

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You think that Microsoft, a company in danger of losing their customers, is going to trot out OS X and show how bad OS X is to Windows?

I've got systems running Windows that reboot, or crash, several times a month. I've had Macs running for months with no crashes or spontaneous reboots...

Yeah, NT was such a great operating system. I made tens of thousands just helping clients keep their NT systems up and running in a month!

Yeah, Millennium Edition was such a great operating system. I made hundreds if not thousands just trying to help residential clients keep their systems up and running in a month.

Yeah, Vista was such a good operating system. I LOST hundreds of dollars by having to replace that 'Wonderful Operating System' in business and residential client machines because it was a COMPLETE P! O! S!.

Yeah, I should be on my knees bowing to Redmond, but it got old and SUCKED A$$ having to deal with their crap. And this doesn't even mention their many and horrific screwups on the 'mobile space'...

They may be '#1', but they sure don't deserve it. If it wasn't for Microsoft's aggressive marketing and their bending of the laws (and wagging the courts), they wouldn't be in business...

They are too big to die, and too big to jail. It's worked for them, at great cost to their customers.

So bite me.

And Apple used IBM mainframes (and still does I'd wager). Does that mean that you anti-Apple extremists are going to go out and but IBM mainframes?

Knock yourselves out...

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I was looking forward to replacing this iMac sooner rather than later, but with the recent software faux pas and lacking hardware releases (along with shaky Quality Control) make me want to hold onto this 2010 machine for as long as possible. I am not into beautiful, I am into ease of use. I hope Apple fix what is wrong while they still can.

You slay your own point.

How many people, with fairly new machines, had to upgrade (toss and buy new) to run Windows 8? Windows Vista? Windows 7?

Heck, my brand new notebook, in the day, wouldn't run Windows Vista (which turned out to be a good thing) because Microsoft and the vendors didn't back-fill drivers for the built-in hardware in that machine. Windows 'upgrades' were often a bridge to nowhere with the amount of problems with driver support.

I have a 5 year old MacBookPro that is running Yosemite. And it's still usable! The sound works, the NIC works, the DVD drive works. No 'Oh crap, they didn't release a new driver' or 'well at least it still runs Solitaire' issues...

 

[3282868]

I love the design, but the reliability of their software has really gone to hell in the past few years.

Yup, pretty spot-on post. Annual release cycle's with delta updates aren't helping either.

Gotta say, as talented as Craig Federighi may be, I'm not impressed with his work on 10.7+.

 

[grahamperrin]

The wrongs with Apple, and caused by Apple, go way beyond iOS alone

What's wrong with Apple? …

Without going into detail, a few things are seriously wrong.

Are any of you beginning to hate Apple, for whatever reason? – Understanding losses of respect for, of confidence in, Apple

 

[teknikal90]

I've been an Apple user since the first iPhone was released (I was so impressed with the iPhone that I bought one as soon as they became available here in Japan, after I had already purchased an iPod touch, iMac, and an AEBS). It used to be that I would recommend Apple wholeheartedly to my friends and family, because everything just worked. I had an epiphany this morning, as I again waited for my iPhone to connect to my iMac's shared iTunes Library (it never did): things haven't "just worked" in years!

I haven't been able to view my iMac's shared iTunes Library on my iOS devices in at least a year. My iMac has always run the latest version OS X and the latest iTunes, and is routed through an AirPort Extreme Base Station (the dual channel 802.11n version) so I'm 100% Apple here, computers, software and network.

I haven't been able to get text shortcuts to reliably sync between devices for about a year. New rMBP - syncs. New rMini - doesn't sync. New iMac - doesn't sync. New iPhone 6 - doesn't sync. Old MBA - doesn't sync. Kind of ridiculous, really.

Speaking of text shortcuts, make sure not to trigger them in mobile Safari, in webforms. Instant lock-up and crash. I've reported this issue to Apple more than once, since iOS8 Beta 1 was released, but the problem persists, even in 8.1 Beta 2.

These things, combined with the random lock-ups, freezes and crashes (again, on top-of-line, new devices) are making me kind of hate Apple. I love the design, but the reliability of their software has really gone to hell in the past few years.

/ rant

I 100% agree.

I came to Apple during the Tiger/Leopard days.
back then everything just worked - Leopard was miles ahead of Windows.

Snow Leopard brought everything to an even higher standard.

Back then, Apple didnt have the incredible pressure to release all their products on an annual schedule, and they aren't forced to spread themselves out thin.

Back then, they had focus and the luxury of time.

OS X originally had an annual schedule, but when they switched to a two year schedule (between Tiger and Lion), those were the glory days.

I remember the story that one of the first things Jobs in 1997 was wipe out a lot of distracting products. He made a quadrant and told Apple that products have to fill one of the four quadrants - if not, they're out.

Since when was a company expected to release groundbreaking, market disrupting products every few years? A company would be lucky to launch just 1 product line with the market disruptive effect to the magnitude of the iPod, iPhone or iPad. Yet, shareholders are demanding Apple do this once every few years. The iPad came out in 2010, arguably changing the entire personal computing landscape, that happened just 4 years ago!

I think that bodes poorly for the quality of future products - one of the reasons I have very little faith in the Apple watch - it's a product born out of shareholder demands - not out of innovation. Tell me, how is the Apple watch 'new' and innovative? Before the iPad, people used crappy netbooks. There was a legitimate need/problem in the industry.

The Apple watch is a make work project, and it's causing Apple's other products to suffer.

Apple in 2014 sucks.

/RANT

 

[WaveGawd]

Iphone 6 plus is the nose buggy, laggy experience I've had with any iphone.

 

[BigInDallas]

So little to no support and almost no residual value is no reason. So let's do the math. A 2008 MBP runs roughly $2,000 new. Five years later it's worth $800-ish. A 2008 Windows laptop worth the same new would have less than $400 residual value. Let's say the better support over the lifetime of the laptops is worth $200. That's a total delta of approximately $600-ish. Show me a new Windows laptop with similar specs (retina resolution display, SSD, i7, 16 GB RAM, battery life, superior trackpad, light form factor) for $1,400. It does not exist. You would be hard pressed to find comparable specs dollar for dollar even.

My Samsung Laptop is a 2nd generation i7 16 gb ram and a samsung pro 840 ssd. paid $1300 brand new. Runs like a champ. Boots in seconds(25). Never overheats, 1080p screen looks great, not glossy but a matte finish.
Actually has a dvd drive. Runs win7 ult. Dont want to sell it works too good.

I think the value of your 2008 mac is probably closer to $400. What you think its worth is not the real value of a product

 

[Foss]

My Samsung Laptop is a 2nd generation i7 16 gb ram and a samsung pro 840 ssd. paid $1300 brand new. Runs like a champ. Boots in seconds(25). Never overheats, 1080p screen looks great, not glossy but a matte finish.
Actually has a dvd drive. Runs win7 ult. Dont want to sell it works too good.

I think the value of your 2008 mac is probably closer to $400. What you think its worth is not the real value of a product

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs/NP940X5J-K02US

$1,900 for less RAM, lower res screen, worse trackpad, worse support, lower resale value, worse integrated video card or $1,999 for a 15" rMBP. To each their own.

 

[TechZeke]

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs/NP940X5J-K02US

$1,900 for less RAM, lower res screen, worse trackpad, worse support, lower resale value, worse integrated video card or $1,999 for a 15" rMBP. To each their own.

I'll never understand this myth that Windows PCs are somehow cheaper than Macs.


Anyway, with the general topic of this thread, here's my 2 cents:

First, iOS and OS X are ALLOT more complex than they were in the old days. Keep in mind, that with each new version of OS X, they've tons of new of features that have only piled on.

Second, waiting a bit of time before each new release will work wonders. Upgraded to iOS 8.0, didn't upgrade until 8.1, and haven't experienced any bugs or issues at all. Also, there have been PLENTY of bugs in android. Apple is so big that any little issue with iOS makes the media. If the average Joe was to go to by the Media and articles alone, he would think iOS is bug ridden and Android's code is perfect.

Third, OS X 10.10 Yosemite, with it's public beta, has made the release-state super-stable. It has actually made my Macs faster, with zero bugs experienced so far.

 

[Sugadaddy]

They should stop forcing the yearly iOS update to coincide with the iPhone release. Put out a phone once a year, but release the software when it's ready and bug-free.

iOS 8 adds a few features we could've lived without for a few months, and releasing it full of bugs is bad for their reputation.

 

[cynics]

I'll never understand this myth that Windows PCs are somehow cheaper than Macs.


Anyway, with the general topic of this thread, here's my 2 cents:

First, iOS and OS X are ALLOT more complex than they were in the old days. Keep in mind, that with each new version of OS X, they've tons of new of features that have only piled on.

Second, waiting a bit of time before each new release will work wonders. Upgraded to iOS 8.0, didn't upgrade until 8.1, and haven't experienced any bugs or issues at all. Also, there have been PLENTY of bugs in android. Apple is so big that any little issue with iOS makes the media. If the average Joe was to go to by the Media and articles alone, he would think iOS is bug ridden and Android's code is perfect.

Third, OS X 10.10 Yosemite, with it's public beta, has made the release-state super-stable. It has actually made my Macs faster, with zero bugs experienced so far.

And my experience with Comcast has been phenomenal! Cable never goes out. Customer service is amazing. Prices are insanely cheap. And their service department is not only amazing but always right on time!

We are being sarcastic here right?

 

[TechZeke]

And my experience with Comcast has been phenomenal! Cable never goes out. Customer service is amazing. Prices are insanely cheap. And their service department is not only amazing but always right on time!

We are being sarcastic here right?

I get your point, but I didn't say that bugs in Yosemite didn't exist.

When I first install the public beta back in the summer, there were bugs and glitches all over the place. Also experienced several annoying bugs when Mavericks was released. I don't have any with Yosemite so you can go suck it for all I care.

I can't stand AT&T right now, but I know people who have had AT&T for 10 years and love it. I can't fault them for not having a bad experience.

 

[AddisonIII]

I bought my first Apple product 2yrs ago which is an iPad 4th gen. I have gotten great pleasure from it since I first opened the box. Same thing for windows computers which I first got back in the med 1980's. Got loads of pleasure as well. Now to present time... I still us both formats and yes I find from time to time I get a bit pizz'ed when a problem comes along. I like so many other here as soon as an update comes I hit the download button. Should I ? before ios8 I would have said I never had a real problem but that is not so with when 8.0 opened and things just didn't work or work as I had hoped. Now with 8.1 I still have a few issues but nothing like 8.0 brought. My point here is both Apple and windows have made some really great ground breaking products, as well as some junk/ borderline junk. In the end if either company fails to service the wants and needs of those who spend their money in time one or both will blow out the window and something else will take their place. It seems to some that is where things lye now. I have a buck that's says both Apple and windows will be with us for some years yet to come. If your content sit back and enjoy the right.. if not I guess another company will be seeing your hard earned cash come Christmas.

 

[cynics]

I get your point, but I didn't say that bugs in Yosemite didn't exist.

When I first install the public beta back in the summer, there were bugs and glitches all over the place. Also experienced several annoying bugs when Mavericks was released. I don't have any with Yosemite so you can go suck it for all I care.

I can't stand AT&T right now, but I know people who have had AT&T for 10 years and love it. I can't fault them for not having a bad experience.

I gotcha, so you were actually basing your opinion off the statistic of 1 (yourself). Good to know.

What am I supposed to suck btw? Might take some world class acting but can you humor me and at least pretend to be an adult for a couple minutes?

 

[Razeus]

I don't even understand what's going on with iTunes. It's a complete mess now.

 

[grahamperrin]

Two years ago:

Innovation is a Fight – Rands in Repose

Apple is eventually doomed. Yes, the most valuable company on the planet will slowly fade into stagnant mediocrity. It will be replaced by something that they will not predict and they will not see coming. This horrifically efficient culling is a fact of life in technology …

A week ago:

It’s been 2 years now, time to evaluate …

The day before the release of Yosemite:

… What matters is Apple must bring back stability and polish in iOS

Pre-release and post-release, Yosemite appalled me.

----

From discussions about Scott Forstall and/or iOS:

… they just need someone to say no, Jobs use to say saying no is more important than saying yes. …

… they need to slooooowwww down, they seem like they are going every which way and nothing is fully baked.

As I see it, Apple no longer has a single, clear, shared vision for OS X. Whether the same is true for iOS, I don't know; I'm happily on 3.1.3.

Will someone at Apple stand up and say NO sometimes …

+1

My understanding was that Forstall was … so determined that it wasn't his department that caused it so did not think he should apologise …

If his department was not primarily the cause, I applaud him for not apologising.

<snip>

I don't want Forstall back.
I just want someone in the job who knows how to a UI is supposed to work.
Anybody but whoever the guy that is in there now.

… The lone argument of skeuomorphism is tired and weak. The man was responsible for a lot of things that make iOS and OS X great.

From his wiki:

Forstall was also responsible for creating a software developer's kit for programmers to build iPhone apps, as well as an App Store within iTunes

Don't sit up here and pretend that the man wasn't a great asset.

The debug podcast often has former Apple employees on the show talking about their previous work at Apple. They all typically speak very highly of Forstall, his drive, vision and around-the-clock devotion to projects. The take home being he was a PITA to report to and work with if you wanted to enjoy your evenings and weekends. But if you really wanted to push yourself and achieve great things at Apple, Forstall was someone who would help you achieve your goals.

So while he gets trashed often on here nowadays since leaving and for the maps debacle, the fact some very highly respected former Apple engineers speak so highly of him - it tells me he was a very big asset for Apple, and his departure maybe not such a good thing.

Came here to post this. For those who want to listen (it's long).

Thanks. I'll do so.

… Maps. … Apple had a major PR issue on their hands, and they needed a united front from senior management acknowledging the issue and what they were doing to fix it.

… The Maps issue wasn't really that big a deal, but I thought it was good of Apple to come forward and apologize when they realized that the product wasn't up to their standards. It would have been better if they had waited until they were certain that it was up to their standards, but the apology made it clear that they still had those standards. …

There's now, sadly, a hollowness to those claims of standards.

what is he even doing these days beside enjoying his $?

Forbes has no idea – that's careless.

News from December 2013: Former iOS Chief Scott Forstall Surfaces After Quiet Year of Traveling and Philanthropy

 

[BigInDallas]

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs/NP940X5J-K02US

$1,900 for less RAM, lower res screen, worse trackpad, worse support, lower resale value, worse integrated video card or $1,999 for a 15" rMBP. To each their own.

Can you explain to me what that pc has to do with mine?