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jayscheuerle
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Potentially. Underweight in many cases is just as bad as overweight. You seem to be in a good place, so don't be discouraged. Your boyfriend is doing a fine jobdevilot said:
I'm currently at 23.5 (73", 178#), which I'm okay with. I run and work out, so I'm reasonably healthy and don't have a lot of excess body fat (I'm in the 11-13% range, at least according to my scale).
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Big and muscular is not good in the long run folks.
Big and muscular is not good in the long run folks.
Abstract said:Many people discredit it. I mean, are they gonna apply the same BMI for little Japanese people as they are for tall Dutch folk? It doesn't make sense, and this is why nobody really takes it seriously.
BTW:
Abstract..... 5'10", 169 lbs, BMI = 24.1
I'm quite fit and healthy, and yet I'm 0.9 points away from being overweight, according to them. Oh, and I'm Chinese, so with their upcoming BMI Index for Asians, I'd probably have a BMI of 72.
*starts flexing*
They just can't handle the fact that I have more muscle in my eyebrows than those scientists do in their entire pectoral, lats, delts, tri, and bicep regions!
i see very few asians bigger than me, at my age, and with my beer gut, 170 lbs, 5'7" ...but i was born here
my relatives in japan are much thinner than me, and even though we have the same genes, it's their diet that accounts for their thinner physique...but also shorter stature, too
i rarely meet an asian, here in the states or in asia, who is over six feet tall, or over 225-250 lbs.
so i can see the fascination in japan of sumo wrestlers who can be way over six feet tall and often over 375 lbs. putting them in the obese category even for a professional nfl player in the states
I think it has less to do with being big and muscular in general, and has more to do with either (a) how they got that way, or (b) what they did once they got there.miloblithe said:
Popping steroids and getting beat up every week doesn't lend itself well to long life.
Being in good shape, taking care of yourself, and naturally increasing your muscle mass is likely better for you than sitting around getting fat.
Am I really owning up to this? *aarrgh*
21.3 - which apparently is "normal" (phew! though higher than it used to be) and yet I feel like a right fat lump of lard... she says, scoffing a piece of carrot cake with her coffee...
Is it just me, or are other people suffering from this change in weather? It's getting so cold now and i can't stop eating ...at this rate my BMI will be about 40 by Christmas... *diet starts on monday*
21.3 - which apparently is "normal" (phew! though higher than it used to be) and yet I feel like a right fat lump of lard... she says, scoffing a piece of carrot cake with her coffee...
Is it just me, or are other people suffering from this change in weather? It's getting so cold now and i can't stop eating
...at this rate my BMI will be about 40 by Christmas... *diet starts on monday*
jayscheuerle
macrumors 68020
miloblithe said:
You don't think the 6-foot-3-inch, 335-pound linemen throw that curve off a bit? BMI doesn't even take into account gender differences in muscle mass percentage. It's a good tool for children under 13, but that's about it.
jayscheuerle said:
Well, if the life expetancy for linemen is 52, and the average is 55, then obviously some players live longer on average than 55. I'd bet kickers, punters, cornerbacks, quarterbacks, and recievers all live longer than 55, some well into their 60s. Tight Ends and linebackers are probably in the mid 50s. Running backs maybe in the late 50s?
Still, the point remains, it's not healthy in the long run to be that big, not matter how good of shape you are in.
I feel ya! You're much lower on the BMI than I am so now I definitely feel fat.dietcokevanilla said:21.3 - which apparently is "normal" (phew! though higher than it used to be) and yet I feel like a right fat lump of lard... she says, scoffing a piece of carrot cake with her coffee...
Is it just me, or are other people suffering from this change in weather? It's getting so cold now and i can't stop eating
But you're right... this darned weather and upcoming holidays won't help much.
Thanks... and I suppose you're right. Some studies have shown women w/ a little more weight/meat on their bones are less likely to develop er,.... this one type of cancer.emw said:Potentially. Underweight in many cases is just as bad as overweight. You seem to be in a good place, so don't be discouraged. Your boyfriend is doing a fine job
Wow that was awful, sorry, no link and no specifics (no wonder I fear to venture into the political forums).
It's not just you - the winter weather always drives me to eat more. Last year I managed not to put on much weight, if any, and I'm hoping to do the same this year, but it takes a lot of control. Time to hit the treadmill tonight.dietcokevanilla said:Is it just me, or are other people suffering from this change in weather? It's getting so cold now and i can't stop eating
i have a friend and she looks downright thin these days with a bmi of 33.8
she was up to a bmi of 44.4 and was over a bmi of 40 a lot of the time in the past
her goal is to get her bmi under 29
translation...she is 222 lbs but used to be 292 lbs...she wants to get down to 190 lbs, which with her height 5'8" and her large bone structure, would actually make her look normal weight, even though the simplistic bmi meter on the link would put her at "overweight" with a 28.9 bmi
if she were to get down to 150 lbs, with "her" 5'8" structure, she would look malnourished, where as a woman with a small bone structure may look overweight with the same numbers
she was up to a bmi of 44.4 and was over a bmi of 40 a lot of the time in the past
her goal is to get her bmi under 29
translation...she is 222 lbs but used to be 292 lbs...she wants to get down to 190 lbs, which with her height 5'8" and her large bone structure, would actually make her look normal weight, even though the simplistic bmi meter on the link would put her at "overweight" with a 28.9 bmi
if she were to get down to 150 lbs, with "her" 5'8" structure, she would look malnourished, where as a woman with a small bone structure may look overweight with the same numbers
I still don't agree that using football players as a guide for what is/is not a healthy body type is reasonable.miloblithe said:
I think it has more to do with the type of occupations some bigger/more muscular people get into: boxing, football, rugby, construction, etc. These occupations have more to do with their life expectancy than their body type.
Also, I'll freely admit that it's not only wieght that shortens the life expectancy of football players. All the joint damage adds up and not being able to walk in your old age is obviously a detriment to overall health. And all getting your "bell rung" leads to brain damage that can"t help either.
(and can i mention that i hate pcs and "sticky keys" or whatever this crap is that i can never figure out...so annoying)
(and can i mention that i hate pcs and "sticky keys" or whatever this crap is that i can never figure out...so annoying)
jayscheuerle
macrumors 68020
miloblithe said:
I'm sure plenty live into their 70s and 80s as well. There are many other components of leading an NFL lifestyle other than size that can contribute to an early death or bad health.
Someone like T.O. is not going to have any problems from his size at his current age, but slimming down after 35 is essential. I've packed on 20 lbs in the past year and a half (6'1", 205lb) and it's killin' me, even though my girlfriend likes me not being as hard as I was (she called me bony at 185). I've always carried more muscle naturally and would have to lose a limb to drop below 180, but 205 at 40 just isn't good news.. I don't even eat junk or fast-food or soda... Damn slowing of metabolism!!
miloblithe said:
i saw a great special on football players and even the smaller/more fit/less fat ones (kickers, receivers, punters) had a very decreased life span because of the incredible stress and injuries they endured...yes, even kickers get injuries and many nfl injuries, even career ending ones, happen during practice
an nfl player has a life expectancy of 57 and even though the linemen live into their early 50s, no one group of player lives "well" into their 60s, but there are always individuals of every position who have lived way beyond that, but never as a "group"
i was shocked to hear that football was so hard on a person's body as to shave a couple of decades off their life...i am sure steroids, massive alcohol use, and use of illegal drugs plays a part in decreasing a pro football player's life and only a pro football player can know what it is to get tackled over and over by people who are trained to take you out with a velocity and force that could only come from nfl training
there is a price to pay for being a nfl player, rugby player, or professional boxer for a long period of time...sometimes sports fan gets too comfortable expecting too much from the players, while the sports fan sits on the couch and eats junk food and drinks beer and sees the body contact while not having to endure it
BMI has nothing to do with being healthy or inshape.
According to the government, using the BMI method, the Williams Sisters are out of shape. So are Mel Gibson and Tom Cruise.
It's a ******** way to measure health.
According to the government, using the BMI method, the Williams Sisters are out of shape. So are Mel Gibson and Tom Cruise.
It's a ******** way to measure health.
MacAztec said:
Yeah, but it's probably heavy stuff, carrying around all that muscle.
I'm only 5'7", 122 pounds today, which puts me almost underweight at 19.1 but what's right for someone who is half-Japanese, half-white?
Simple calculations don't take into account what is healthy for various ethnicities.
I think we're more or less on the same page here. I certainly agree that it's not exclusively, or even most likely primarily weight that lowers the life expectancy of football players by over 2 decades, but that a small in shape person is going to live longer than a large in shape person on average.
I'm three years from that 35 after which slimming down is essential. I'm in poor shape now (long history of knee injuries and, well, laziness), but I'm blessed with a decent metabolism. I need to get back into bike riding. This summer I did about 200 miles total, whereas in the past (for a while) I was doing about 150 miles a week. All kinds of other exercise would be good too, plus more discipline to eat less and eat more healthily.
I'm three years from that 35 after which slimming down is essential. I'm in poor shape now (long history of knee injuries and, well, laziness), but I'm blessed with a decent metabolism. I need to get back into bike riding. This summer I did about 200 miles total, whereas in the past (for a while) I was doing about 150 miles a week. All kinds of other exercise would be good too, plus more discipline to eat less and eat more healthily.
gwuMACaddict said:
It's just an indicator. And it's useful on the extremes. Someone with a BMI of 50 would be much healthier if they lower it to 40.
There's no one indicator that's perfect, and designing a comprehensive index would be daunting and too diffucult for most people to use. There are dangers with indicators like this if people misinterpet their accuracy or purpose, but it is still useful.
jayscheuerle
macrumors 68020
miloblithe said:
So's a mirror. Most people who need to lose weight know it, but just deny it. I'm not sure a controversial measuring system is going to sway those who don't care in the first place. All it's going to do is enable people to be labeled, which may be enough to shame some people into dropping some pounds (or working on getting their kids too). I don't think that it's harmful, but it's overly simplistic and thereby misleading and incomplete.
If the people who are in shape and muscular can poo-poo it rightly, then the legitimately overweight delusional people will as well. Believe me, Philly has more than its share of fat assed dudes in sports shirts saying "Wha? I'm justa big guy!", while demanding that their big-haired goilfrenz work toward a stick figure.
Let's just line everybody up naked and let someone from India pick out the ones he thinks are fat...
jayscheuerle said:Let's just line everybody up naked and let someone from India pick out the ones he thinks are fat...
Just as long as it's not my jokingingly adopted "big brother" Ravi. Now there was one fat Indian. He refused to eat his veggies for political reasons (he didn't like Brahmans) and it showed...