When Can We Expect the Redesigned MacBook Pros Now?

danvdr said:
"but analyst Ming Chi-Kuo, Nikkei Asia, and Taiwanese research firm TrendForce have given a broader prediction that new MacBook Pro models will arrive in the second half of 2021, which currently seems to be the best prediction."

Since that covers July - December, that's next exactly going out on a limb.
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Pretty brave to predict that they won’t be announced within the next 14 days.

I’ll one up them. They won’t arrive until after July 2nd.
 
LizKat said:
Heh, most likely. I'd still be relying on that fabulous workhorse the mid-2012 MBP, had it not been kicked into obsolete status... but in the meantime I sprang for a 2020 MBA so I'm willing to be a sidelines observer of how the newest MBPs fare when they do finally launch. I still miss the USB-A port on Apple's newer offerings too, even though I have long since resigned myself to use of dongles. LOL at least I finally stopped whining about the demise of the internal optical drive...
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The 2012 15" is still the best laptop Apple's built in recent history. I'll be sticking with mine for quite a while, probably picking up some spares just in case. The only thing wrong with it is that the battery isn't easily swappable, which really is an incredibly handy feature. Back in the day I always had a few spare batteries and a charger. Of course, the best Mac for that was the PowerBook G3, you could change a battery without even having to shut down, or run two batteries at the same time.

Looks like dosdude1 is going to release a Mac OS 12 installer for the 2012, so it's far from obsolete. Of course, I'm sticking with Mac OS 10.14, I still have 32-bit software that I have no intention of giving up.
 
haydn! said:
They’re unlikely to release new Macs now between the Monterey preview and release. My guess is a Mac centric event about a month after the iPhone event - which is typically when MacOS updates go live also - so October time.
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The future SoC might not be tethered to Monterey at all. Like Apple wouldn’t publically document something like 11.5 betas supporting the next batch of SoC’s.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
Not being able to drive 2 external monitors from a Thunderbolt 3 port is beyond my understanding.
Probably the GPU is not powerful enough to do it.
Also, the deal killer for me has been the low RAM configuration availability. It doesn't go beyond 16 GB on the current M1 iMac and MBP.
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But why does it need to go beyond 16 GB of RAM? What specific work flow would be limited by 16 GB on an M1 laptop? I don't think you can directly compare 16 GB of RAM on the Intel architecture with 16 GB of RAM on the Apple Silicon architecture and draw any conclusions that if 16 GB of RAM is not sufficient for your work flow on the Intel architecture than the same would be true on the M1 architecture. The only limitation I really see with 16 GB of RAM is the number of VMs one can run concurrently. Then again, if one needs to run a lot of VMs concurrently, perhaps one should invest in a server.
 
After reading about a possible covert channel vulnerability within the M1 chip, I will not be upgrading my broken 2011 Macbook Pro laptop at this time. My 2011 laptop has the infamous broken GPU socket.
 
It would be nice if they could use the added delay time to refine the design so that there aren't any surprise defects down the road, which seem to be a regular occurrence lately. Screen issues, keyboard issues, the list goes on. Would be nice if they did the same with their OS releases too.
 
SWAON said:
October-November period? Most Likely if not, next Spring...
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They need to bring the new MBPs only when ready and able to be produced in quantity without a shedload of QA problems that delay delivery dates or result in returns for warrantied repair. If they can't do that, or if shareholders can't understand that, maybe Apple shouldn't have indulged in share buybacks or the dividends that have come before now. After all, quality product is what a lot of us have learned to expect from Apple, and it also underwrites the rest of our reasons for tolerating --sometimes with annoyance-- some of the constraints of Apple's "walled garden" in which we have meanwhile chosen to remain.
 
My guess
, which is always right, is that the MacBook Pro redesign will come out……….
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sirozha said:
But why does it need to go beyond 16 GB of RAM? What specific work flow would be limited by 16 GB on an M1 laptop? I don't think you can directly compare 16 GB of RAM on the Intel architecture with 16 GB of RAM on the Apple Silicon architecture and draw any conclusions that if 16 GB of RAM is not sufficient for your work flow on the Intel architecture than the same would be true on the M1 architecture. The only limitation I really see with 16 GB of RAM is the number of VMs one can run concurrently. Then again, if one needs to run a lot of VMs concurrently, perhaps one should invest in a server.
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VMs, Xcode Development, audio (DAW and plug-ins) and especially video, although video beyond 32GB is the law of diminishing returns, meaning you don’t need 64 or 128GB for video currently. There are plenty of other reasons for more than 16GB, the current limit of 16GB in M1 is a bit of a pain.

Running VMs on a server is not efficient when one can run them on their dev laptop and debug in an easily resettable environment versus setting up a remote server somewhere in a data center. I’ve done this before and the benefits of local are multi-fold.
 
If Apple is affected by the chip shortage, then next laptop that Apple releases will be a 15" or 16" MacBook Pro. I doubt the 13" or 14" MacBook Pro will materialize this year. Apple would want to gouge for the larger-screen MacBook Pro, and no one would be able to complain because of the chip shortage as well as the overall inflation. At this point, we are at the mercy of Apple, as Apple can literally put any price on the larger Apple Silicon laptops, and they will still be selling like hot cakes (in cold climates).
 
ThisBougieLife said:
I’m ready to upgrade my 16” MBP. Switchable graphics doesn’t work anymore, Night Shift often doesn’t come on, it gets hot just from watching YouTube…I know an M2/M1X MBP would solve these problems. Looking forward to see what comes out but I’m willing to wait. I also wonder if maybe they should just hold off on mini-LED.
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Sounds like you need to wipe your drive. No reason for the graphics switching to stop since that’s done in software. Watching YouTube videos doesn’t affect the temperature on my 16”MBP. You may have some corrupt files installed causing issues.
 
James Godfrey said:
I think it was originally planned for WWDC, but that has fallen through and is now being announced in October alongside the iMac Pro and higher end Mac Mini which will all feature the same chip set… with the Mac Pro being announced at WWDC2022 shipping late 2022.

Everyone keeps saying they will get it out before the Back To School Promotion, these machines are going to be hard to come by as it is without a promotion immediately as they launch, these machines along with the latest M1 iMac will most likely be excluded anyway.

On top of this as it was likely planned for a WWDC announcement originally, if it was going to ship July or August they would have still announced it at WWDC, the fact it was dropped suggests that the wait is longer than s month or two, we can disregard September so that leaves October or November at the earliest.

To top all that Apple have historically only had online hardware events with at least 3 hardware products… so if an event is coming in July what else are they going to announce alongside it??? There is literally no other products rumoured in the pipeline that are imminent.
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I’m banking on October as well but with supply constraints, that could mean shipping November for lots of people.

I also believe the original unveil was due at WWDC but got pushed due to supply constraints.
 
sirozha said:
If Apple is affected by the chip shortage, then next laptop that Apple releases will be a 15" or 16" MacBook Pro. I doubt the 13" or 14" MacBook Pro will materialize this year. Apple would want to gouge for the larger-screen MacBook Pro, and no one would be able to complain because of the chip shortage as well as the overall inflation. At this point, we are at the mercy of Apple, as Apple can literally put any price on the larger Apple Silicon laptops, and they will still be selling like hot cakes (in cold climates).
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this is probably the scariest truth of all. Meaning we’ll be waiting until July 2022 for the 14” redesign.
 
Maconplasma said:
Sounds like you need to wipe your drive. No reason for the graphics switching to stop since that’s done in software. Watching YouTube videos doesn’t affect the temperature on my 16”MBP. You may have some corrupt files installed causing issues.
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Sorry, I was a bit vague. It isn’t that it won’t switch, it’s that when it’s enabled and running off the iGPU, the OS is slow, stuttering, and essentially unusable. So I have to have the dGPU enabled constantly which increases heat, lowers battery life, and seems to make it so that Night Shift often doesn’t come on (it activates properly with the iGPU enabled but I don’t enable it for the above reasons). I’ve considered wiping the drive but that would be such a huge task it’s part of why I’ve simply wanted to wait for a new MBP. Especially after hearing that some features of macOS Monterey won’t work with an Intel Mac. It’s clear where the future is and I want in on it. Graphics performance is going to be so much better without the need for two GPUs.
 
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On a slightly unrelated note, the amount of 2017 MBPs for sale, at least in my view, is something to behold. At least it appears that way to me on FB marketplace and CL in my part of the world. Esp the 2017 13" NTB model.
 
Debit card is ready. M1 mini is the “core solo” of Apple silicon, so I passed. Want to get the first AS pro machine to last a good long time
 
Yawn... How long is a piece of string? What are the winning lottery numbers? When will the Pandemic end? Anyone's guess is good. Only Apple knows if and when the new MBPs will be out. Until then, shut up about it!
 
sirozha said:
The only thing that needs redesigning is an ability to connect at least two external monitors to an Apple Silicon laptop. It's not a Pro laptop if it can't drive two external monitors, as a lot of professionals (in different occupations) need a multi-monitor setup (at least two external monitors). I had to resort to a DisplayLink dock to drive a second external monitor. I was fortunate to find a great DisplayLink dock, but the research and trial-and-error process took a long time. Still, DisplayLink is a bandage on a very serious shortcoming of the M1 graphics capabilities (or lack thereof). I'm still hoping that Apple can enable a two-external-monitor support on M1 laptops with a software update.

Other than that, the M1 laptops are much superior to the Intel laptops in the same category. The M1 MacBook Air blows out of the water anything Intel based I've used by Apple. It's just an absolutely mind-blowing performance with no spinning fans. So, there may not be a pressing reason for Apple to release updated MacBook Pros this year, especially because Apple execs don't seem to think that external monitors are important - otherwise they wouldn't have discontinued their own affordable external monitor. They may be focusing on a 27" or 30" iMac with the M1 architecture.
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Thats a good point about the 2 monitor setup. I was thinking why the hell didn't they just release the
m1x in the current 14-16" bodies and wait til next year for the redesign? I suppose they wouldn't want
the new pros to support only 1 monitor. I could not care less about the led screen or multi monitor support
but can understand Apple wanting to support those that do.
Yes I'm very happy with my m1 MacBook air and my 2018 mini. But will be very interested in the 32 iMac!
 
sirozha said:
Other than that, the M1 laptops are much superior to the Intel laptops in the same category. The M1 MacBook Air blows out of the water anything Intel based I've used by Apple. It's just an absolutely mind-blowing performance with no spinning fans. So, there may not be a pressing reason for Apple to release updated MacBook Pros this year,
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M1 is pretty great, but one would hope Apple doesn't think 4 performance cores and 16 Gigs of RAM is enough for high-end laptops.
 
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