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Personally I am more excited for the 27-32 M1(X?) iMac than any MBP/MBA refresh… as long as I have a Space Grey and black bezels option

I was more excited about this until I saw the 24" iMac.

I don't want a desktop computer that is port constrained simply because Apple insists on making it as thin as an iPhone
(for no actually beneficial reason)
 
Me reading this article and seeing a bunch of people waiting indefinitely.
Also me seeing that my brand new M1 MBP is coming in the mail today.
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I know. I mean, didn't the new M1 MacBook Pro just come out?

I feel like they could drop a new MBP tomorrow, and come Friday people will be on here complaining about how long it's been and clamoring to know when the next one's coming.
 


With no sign of redesigned MacBook Pro models at this year's WWDC, when can customers expect the much-anticipated new models to launch?

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A number of reports, including investor notes from Morgan Stanley and Wedbush analysts, claimed that new MacBook Pro models would be coming during this year's WWDC. This did not happen, much to the disappointment of MacBook Pro fans, who have been anticipating redesigned machines with Apple silicon chips.

The "M2" chip purportedly destined for the next-generation MacBook Pro models has already entered mass production, according to supply chain sources, but there have been several reports that Apple has experienced unexpected delays with the production of the new models.

The supply of mini-LED display components were apparently constrained by shortages and production problems. Apple supplier TSMT, a key vendor believed to be involved in the production of mini-LED displays for the MacBook Pro, has now reportedly resolved technical difficulties around the component, but this seems to have left the MacBook Pros behind schedule.

DigiTimes recently reported that Apple suppliers will begin component shipments, such as keyboard backlights, for new MacBook Pro models in the third quarter of this year, which starts in July and runs through September, indicating that mass production may begin around this time. Nikkei Asia claimed that Apple plans to begin mass-producing two new MacBook laptops in the second half of the year, rescheduled from the previous timeframe of May to June.

Reliable Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said that new MacBook Pro models could launch as soon as this summer, but analyst Ming Chi-Kuo, Nikkei Asia, and Taiwanese research firm TrendForce have given a broader prediction that new MacBook Pro models will arrive in the second half of 2021, which currently seems to be the best prediction.

DigiTimes has also cautioned that volume production of the 14-inch MacBook Pro may be postponed until the fourth quarter of 2021 and the new 16-inch model may be postponed until the first quarter of 2022, especially if hindrances to ramped up Taiwanese production fail to improve. Other industry reports have suggested that the MacBook Pros may be delayed until 2022 entirely. Even so, most reports still seem to be centered on a 2021 launch date.

In previous years, Apple has usually held two events toward the end of the year, starting in September. While the first of these events usually sees the unveiling of new iPhone and Apple Watch models, a following event often sees the introduction of new Mac models. Apple events in October have seen the launch of new iMac, Mac mini, and MacBook Air models, as well as various MacBook Pro updates. Last November, Apple introduced the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with the M1 chip.

The range of reports on the launch of the new MacBook Pro models, including supply chain information about the production schedule, also seems to broadly point to a launch date in this region, around October.

It is also important to bear in mind that Apple may unveil the MacBook Pros with a substantial delay before they ship to customers, much like how the newest iPad Pro models did not ship for a month after they were announced. A delay could allow Apple to reveal the new machines sooner, such as alongside the iPhone 13 lineup, but then accommodate delays to mass production by shipping slightly later on in the year or toward 2022.

The new 14-inch MacBook Pro and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are rumored to feature new designs, brighter panels with higher contrast, function keys with no Touch Bar, more ports, and a MagSafe connector for charging. For more on what to expect, make sure to check out our dedicated MacBook Pro rumor guide, which contains all the details we know about Apple's new machines so far.

Article Link: When Can We Expect the Redesigned MacBook Pros Now?
I sure hope rumors are wrong on the Touch Bar.
 
But why does it need to go beyond 16 GB of RAM? What specific work flow would be limited by 16 GB on an M1 laptop? I don't think you can directly compare 16 GB of RAM on the Intel architecture with 16 GB of RAM on the Apple Silicon architecture and draw any conclusions that if 16 GB of RAM is not sufficient for your work flow on the Intel architecture than the same would be true on the M1 architecture. The only limitation I really see with 16 GB of RAM is the number of VMs one can run concurrently. Then again, if one needs to run a lot of VMs concurrently, perhaps one should invest in a server.
There are many reasons. keep in mind I'm not just talking about a laptop but also an iMac.
Unless all you do is web browsing, 16 GB should be enough. And even in this case, When I do research, I could have 30 to 60 tabs opened in Safari, and it uses all the 32 GB RAM on my iMac.

But if you do Xcode with concurrent VMs or Video Editing FCP X and Motion, Blender, etc...)
16 GB goes out the dust.

On the M1 chip, the RAM is embedded into the processor which makes it super fast. And If you need more than 16GB RAM, it swaps memory with the SSD, which is also incredibly fast.
BUT.....
Have you consider that too much memory swapping wears out the SSD? How many times can you write on it before it starts giving you trouble? Is there an answer to this question somewhere?
 
They’re unlikely to release new Macs now between the Monterey preview and release. My guess is a Mac centric event about a month after the iPhone event - which is typically when MacOS updates go live also - so October time.

Why not? Seems even more unlikely that Apple would release Monterey while selling no 16-inch MBP that can fully run it, assuming the reports are true that Monterey needs Apple silicon to run all features.
 
I don’t know if I can hold off. My mini died last week. I don’t NEED a PC but they are good to have around.

I’m a little tempted to get a MBA for now, save a few bucks, and then be able to get the newer one later. But who am I kidding? I was doing alright with a 2011 mini. I’m not a power user. Maybe I’ll get a MBP and keep that for 10 years.
 
My mid-2012 13" MBP is chugging away just fine. I actually update to Mojave just 3 weeks ago from High Sierra, simply because I was in no rush and I like things being mature before switching. Which is why I'll likely wait for the M3, to give them time to mature the platform. No way was I going to get an M1, but the M2 may tempt me, but if the delay into 2022 is true, waiting until fall 2022 for an M3 wouldn't be a problem at all. But, it all depends on how my 2012 holds up.
 
Not sure if this question has been asked yet but couldn’t Apple go with OLED rather then mini leds for the new MacBooks?
 
My mid-2012 13" MBP is chugging away just fine. I actually update to Mojave just 3 weeks ago from High Sierra, simply because I was in no rush and I like things being mature before switching. Which is why I'll likely wait for the M3, to give them time to mature the platform. No way was I going to get an M1, but the M2 may tempt me, but if the delay into 2022 is true, waiting until fall 2022 for an M3 wouldn't be a problem at all. But, it all depends on how my 2012 holds up.
I upgraded from your MBP last year. I tell you the new model is a world of difference. Only drawback is lack of the MagSafe power. I can do without the DVD drive built in, the SD card reader, and other ports.
 
Shocking, as Wedbush analysts have proven THE go-to for knowledge of Apple's super guarded, internal rollout strategy.
This morning represents literally the first time I have ever seen or written the word Wedbush. And likely, the last.

That said, I'm looking forward to an ASi MBP as much as the next. Now that we have a better idea about their silicon capabilities, I'm curious if, like the updated iMac, we'll see a more significant MBP hardware redsign. I'm talking a whole new design language others will mimick for the next decade plus. Where Apple's hardware design team can flex their post-Ives chops, exploring and pushing new materials, finishes, concepts, etc. While I've no clue what the next aesthetic horizon might hold, I bet you there is something beyond silver aluminum. The iMac redesign opened the door for something more visually "wow" (aka: undoubetedly polarizing) for the MBP than the return of some ports and a thinner bezel. We shall see.
 
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Not sure if this question has been asked yet but couldn’t Apple go with OLED rather then mini leds for the new MacBooks?

Burn in would be a real problem. These aren't phones that are on for short periods of times. They can be on for hours.
 
There are many reasons. keep in mind I'm not just talking about a laptop but also an iMac.
Unless all you do is web browsing, 16 GB should be enough. And even in this case, When I do research, I could have 30 to 60 tabs opened in Safari, and it uses all the 32 GB RAM on my iMac.

But if you do Xcode with concurrent VMs or Video Editing FCP X and Motion, Blender, etc...)
16 GB goes out the dust.

On the M1 chip, the RAM is embedded into the processor which makes it super fast. And If you need more than 16GB RAM, it swaps memory with the SSD, which is also incredibly fast.
BUT.....
Have you consider that too much memory swapping wears out the SSD? How many times can you write on it before it starts giving you trouble? Is there an answer to this question somewhere?
That was a good comeback with web browsing using 32 GB on the iMac. macOS doesn’t need 32GB of RAM to have 60 tabs open in Safari. macOS doesn’t release RAM until another process requires RAM, so that’s why you see 32GB used up. You could just as easily have 8 GB of RAM handle 60 tabs in Safari.
 
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M1 is pretty great, but one would hope Apple doesn't think 4 performance cores and 16 Gigs of RAM is enough for high-end laptops.
M1 blows away any Intel MacBook Pro with an exception of probably the most high-end 16” ones, which cost 3 times as much.
 
This is exactly what I am expecting. Those multi-coloured renders from last month being real, but not a redesign of Air – just named "Macbook." With white bezels and all, iMac 24" style. If there's a 14" screen, I'm just going to agonise over the colour.

The idea of "entry level" 13" MBP that is somewhere between Air and a "real" MBP is confusing.

It seems that Apple want a high price for black bezels after 2021 is over 😂 be funny if the iPhone 13 Mini and Normal have a white notch and bezels! That would crease me 😂😂😂
 
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