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I sold my 16" 5600M a week before WWDC. :|

Well, reluctantly I bought the 13" M1 because otherwise it was back to my 2009 MBP (which works but my lord zoom kills it). The performance on the 13" M1 is great, but I also feel like I showed them. :(

did you get the air or macbook pro?
 
my wallet is sad...
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If the new Mac are using a M2 chip presumably based on the A15, I don’t know how anyone thinks they would come out before the iPhone 13
 
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when they have a chip with the graphics ability of or better than Intel's next offering! that's when the new MacBooks will come out! if the m2 could do that, they wouldn't be putting intel in the new Mac Pro!
 
Debit card is ready. M1 mini is the “core solo” of Apple silicon, so I passed. Want to get the first AS pro machine to last a good long time

I might be in this boat too. The M1 being Apple’s first foray into desktop class chipmaking means that the newer versions are going to be unreal and not only that but far more robust for futureproofing. I do believe the M1, as great as it is now, will be quickly surpassed and forgotten about in the years to come and thus, will not have the long term support its successors will have. Look at the first iPhone, iPad, Watch etc… The second iterations all had much longer lives than the originals (I’m counting the 3GS as ”second gen” since iPhone/iPhone 3G were nearly identical hardware wise).
 
I think they pulled it from WWDC right before the event. That's why the key words were on youtube, and why JP was so confident. Furthermore, in the actual video there's reference to "more on that later" which they never did, and the calendar shows the event was 2 hours, (in a demo video in the keynote) not an hour and 45 mins. They 100% were going to announce them, and my guess was the old parts that are hard to get (various legacy chips, not the M1X that they control and fabricate) because of shortages delayed when they announced, since they don't want to announce and wait two months to have enough to meet demand. So while October is possible, my guess is July or August. They want these out before they announce the new MacBook airs with M2',s which my guess is what they will announce in October.

That also feels very much like Tim Cook's playbook. a new event every three months is great for overall sales brand awareness. Pro laptops/machines beginning of summer. Then iPhones in early fall, then consumer machines in late fall/early winter, then iPad/other stuff in spring/special addition color of phones to pump up sales.
 
No later than Monterey’s release date. That much is a near-certainty.
Yeah, it's kind of a shame, but they will almost certainly time it with the Monterey release, at this point. That's one "policy" that I'd love Apple to abandon—i.e., that the earliest macOS version a machine will boot is the one it shipped with.... Big Sur support in the audio world has been very slow coming, and there's likely to be yet another delay for devs to ensure Monterey support, which just means more waiting. Ugh...
I have to say, I'm not a big fan of annual macOS releases.
 
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I think they pulled it from WWDC right before the event. That's why the key words were on youtube, and why JP was so confident. Furthermore, in the actual video there's reference to "more on that later" which they never did, and the calendar shows the event was 2 hours, (in a demo video in the keynote) not an hour and 45 mins. They 100% were going to announce them, and my guess was the old parts that are hard to get (various legacy chips, not the M1X that they control and fabricate) because of shortages delayed when they announced, since they don't want to announce and wait two months to have enough to meet demand. So while October is possible, my guess is July or August. They want these out before they announce the new MacBook airs with M2',s which my guess is what they will announce in October.

That also feels very much like Tim Cook's playbook. a new event every three months is great for overall sales brand awareness. Pro laptops/machines beginning of summer. Then iPhones in early fall, then consumer machines in late fall/early winter, then iPad/other stuff in spring/special addition color of phones to pump up sales.
Yeah... I also noticed that the WWDC session videos have the old Mac "bong" at the start, which does make it kinda seem like a new MBP—that reprises the old boot chime—was actually supposed to be released... but who knows, maybe it's just some weird "teaser"... ??
 
Yeah, it's kind of a shame, but they will almost certainly time it with the Monterey release, at this point. That's one "policy" that I'd love Apple to abandon—i.e., that the earliest macOS version a machine will boot is the one it shipped with.... Big Sur support in the audio world has been very slow coming, and there's likely to be yet another delay for devs to ensure Monterey support, which just means more waiting. Ugh...
I have to say, I'm not a big fan of annual macOS releases.

Having brand new MBPs shipping with the Monterey golden master really would be threading the needle, wouldn’t it? And that’s before considering that a lot of pro users won’t want to run the early versions of Monterey. I could see Apple announcing the MBPs when Monterey is released, but I’d be surprised if they don’t ship with Big Sur.
 
Having brand new MBPs shipping with the Monterey golden master really would be threading the needle, wouldn’t it? And that’s before considering that a lot of pro users won’t want to run the early versions of Monterey. I could see Apple announcing the MBPs when Monterey is released, but I’d be surprised if they don’t ship with Big Sur.
Really? Wouldn't that be a first for Apple? I thought new machines always shipped with the new macOS... I suppose I haven't necessarily paid a lot of attention, mind you...
I would certainly much prefer if it shipped with Big Sur, so it would be awesome if they did that.
 
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2008 mbp getting a bit long in the tooth, still works better than most new ones! Wish the OS would be updated tho. Don’t make them like that anymore.
 
Shocking, as Wedbush analysts have proven THE go-to for knowledge of Apple's super guarded, internal rollout strategy.
This morning represents literally the first time I have ever seen or written the word Wedbush. And likely, the last.

That said, I'm looking forward to an ASi MBP as much as the next. Now that we have a better idea about their silicon capabilities, I'm curious if, like the updated iMac, we'll see a more significant MBP hardware redsign. I'm talking a whole new design language others will mimick for the next decade plus. Where Apple's hardware design team can flex their post-Ives chops, exploring and pushing new materials, finishes, concepts, etc. While I've no clue what the next aesthetic horizon might hold, I bet you there is something beyond silver aluminum. The iMac redesign opened the door for something more visually "wow" (aka: undoubetedly polarizing) for the MBP than the return of some ports and a thinner bezel. We shall see.
The industrial design will look exactly like the new iMacs sans colors and white bezels- flat shape, no MacBook Pro word mark below display, newer magic keyboard, etc. Flat, simple, minimalist- just what Apple excels at.
 
This is incredibly frustrating as my team has 7 MBPs (2016 model) that we are scheduled to replace this year. And a few of these are beginning to have significant issues.

If my company expects me to use these for 4 years, I'd like to buy the latest technology and "future proof" as best as I can by purchasing MBPs with Apple Silicon.

But, I fear I will have to purchase old Intel models soon, if the forecast doesn't become clearer.
Um, just don’t upgrade until the Apple Silicon revision. Just push back.
 
I might be in this boat too. The M1 being Apple’s first foray into desktop class chipmaking means that the newer versions are going to be unreal and not only that but far more robust for futureproofing. I do believe the M1, as great as it is now, will be quickly surpassed and forgotten about in the years to come and thus, will not have the long term support its successors will have. Look at the first iPhone, iPad, Watch etc… The second iterations all had much longer lives than the originals (I’m counting the 3GS as ”second gen” since iPhone/iPhone 3G were nearly identical hardware wise).

The biggest contribution of the M1 is that it enabled developers to gradually start porting their apps to ARM. Of course Microsoft and other big players were quick to react and came with new native apps, and non-pro users mostly rely on software from these major firms. I'm optimistic that once the M2 Macbook Pros come out, even the VPN software etc. that I have to use for my work will have been ported.
 
Chrystal Ball gazing, Tea Leave reading and shooting from the hip will not answer your desires wants or needs. The rumored MBPs were never slated for 2021 release but more suited for rumor mongers hungry for lucky chance credibility and or click bait. IMHO and I repeat only IMHO so don´t get yer panties tied in a knot the new models will rear their heads in 2022 with the possible announcement coming in late 2021 (again 3rd time IMHO). There is nothing that would make me happier than to get my hands on a long needed upgrade but with all of the past second guessing im trying to be as logical and patient as possible. Have a safe a good summer!
 
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With no sign of redesigned MacBook Pro models at this year's WWDC, when can customers expect the much-anticipated new models to launch?

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A number of reports, including investor notes from Morgan Stanley and Wedbush analysts, claimed that new MacBook Pro models would be coming during this year's WWDC. This did not happen, much to the disappointment of MacBook Pro fans, who have been anticipating redesigned machines with Apple silicon chips.

The "M2" chip purportedly destined for the next-generation MacBook Pro models has already entered mass production, according to supply chain sources, but there have been several reports that Apple has experienced unexpected delays with the production of the new models.

The supply of mini-LED display components were apparently constrained by shortages and production problems. Apple supplier TSMT, a key vendor believed to be involved in the production of mini-LED displays for the MacBook Pro, has now reportedly resolved technical difficulties around the component, but this seems to have left the MacBook Pros behind schedule.

DigiTimes recently reported that Apple suppliers will begin component shipments, such as keyboard backlights, for new MacBook Pro models in the third quarter of this year, which starts in July and runs through September, indicating that mass production may begin around this time. Nikkei Asia claimed that Apple plans to begin mass-producing two new MacBook laptops in the second half of the year, rescheduled from the previous timeframe of May to June.

Reliable Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said that new MacBook Pro models could launch as soon as this summer, but analyst Ming Chi-Kuo, Nikkei Asia, and Taiwanese research firm TrendForce have given a broader prediction that new MacBook Pro models will arrive in the second half of 2021, which currently seems to be the best prediction.

DigiTimes has also cautioned that volume production of the 14-inch MacBook Pro may be postponed until the fourth quarter of 2021 and the new 16-inch model may be postponed until the first quarter of 2022, especially if hindrances to ramped up Taiwanese production fail to improve. Other industry reports have suggested that the MacBook Pros may be delayed until 2022 entirely. Even so, most reports still seem to be centered on a 2021 launch date.

In previous years, Apple has usually held two events toward the end of the year, starting in September. While the first of these events usually sees the unveiling of new iPhone and Apple Watch models, a following event often sees the introduction of new Mac models. Apple events in October have seen the launch of new iMac, Mac mini, and MacBook Air models, as well as various MacBook Pro updates. Last November, Apple introduced the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with the M1 chip.

The range of reports on the launch of the new MacBook Pro models, including supply chain information about the production schedule, also seems to broadly point to a launch date in this region, around October.

It is also important to bear in mind that Apple may unveil the MacBook Pros with a substantial delay before they ship to customers, much like how the newest iPad Pro models did not ship for a month after they were announced. A delay could allow Apple to reveal the new machines sooner, such as alongside the iPhone 13 lineup, but then accommodate delays to mass production by shipping slightly later on in the year or toward 2022.

The new 14-inch MacBook Pro and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are rumored to feature new designs, brighter panels with higher contrast, function keys with no Touch Bar, more ports, and a MagSafe connector for charging. For more on what to expect, make sure to check out our dedicated MacBook Pro rumor guide, which contains all the details we know about Apple's new machines so far.

Article Link: When Can We Expect the Redesigned MacBook Pros Now?


With no sign of redesigned MacBook Pro models at this year's WWDC, when can customers expect the much-anticipated new models to launch?

16-inch-macbook-pro-m2-render.jpg

A number of reports, including investor notes from Morgan Stanley and Wedbush analysts, claimed that new MacBook Pro models would be coming during this year's WWDC. This did not happen, much to the disappointment of MacBook Pro fans, who have been anticipating redesigned machines with Apple silicon chips.

The "M2" chip purportedly destined for the next-generation MacBook Pro models has already entered mass production, according to supply chain sources, but there have been several reports that Apple has experienced unexpected delays with the production of the new models.

The supply of mini-LED display components were apparently constrained by shortages and production problems. Apple supplier TSMT, a key vendor believed to be involved in the production of mini-LED displays for the MacBook Pro, has now reportedly resolved technical difficulties around the component, but this seems to have left the MacBook Pros behind schedule.

DigiTimes recently reported that Apple suppliers will begin component shipments, such as keyboard backlights, for new MacBook Pro models in the third quarter of this year, which starts in July and runs through September, indicating that mass production may begin around this time. Nikkei Asia claimed that Apple plans to begin mass-producing two new MacBook laptops in the second half of the year, rescheduled from the previous timeframe of May to June.

Reliable Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said that new MacBook Pro models could launch as soon as this summer, but analyst Ming Chi-Kuo, Nikkei Asia, and Taiwanese research firm TrendForce have given a broader prediction that new MacBook Pro models will arrive in the second half of 2021, which currently seems to be the best prediction.

DigiTimes has also cautioned that volume production of the 14-inch MacBook Pro may be postponed until the fourth quarter of 2021 and the new 16-inch model may be postponed until the first quarter of 2022, especially if hindrances to ramped up Taiwanese production fail to improve. Other industry reports have suggested that the MacBook Pros may be delayed until 2022 entirely. Even so, most reports still seem to be centered on a 2021 launch date.

In previous years, Apple has usually held two events toward the end of the year, starting in September. While the first of these events usually sees the unveiling of new iPhone and Apple Watch models, a following event often sees the introduction of new Mac models. Apple events in October have seen the launch of new iMac, Mac mini, and MacBook Air models, as well as various MacBook Pro updates. Last November, Apple introduced the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with the M1 chip.

The range of reports on the launch of the new MacBook Pro models, including supply chain information about the production schedule, also seems to broadly point to a launch date in this region, around October.

It is also important to bear in mind that Apple may unveil the MacBook Pros with a substantial delay before they ship to customers, much like how the newest iPad Pro models did not ship for a month after they were announced. A delay could allow Apple to reveal the new machines sooner, such as alongside the iPhone 13 lineup, but then accommodate delays to mass production by shipping slightly later on in the year or toward 2022.

The new 14-inch MacBook Pro and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are rumored to feature new designs, brighter panels with higher contrast, function keys with no Touch Bar, more ports, and a MagSafe connector for charging. For more on what to expect, make sure to check out our dedicated MacBook Pro rumor guide, which contains all the details we know about Apple's new machines so far.

Article Link: When Can We Expect the Redesigned MacBook Pros Now?
Here’s my thoughts on the timeline for releases this year.
September- New Apple Watch and iPad Mini updates.
Late September early October- New iPhones
November- New MacBook Pro’s and Mac mini with possibly Mac Pro and the new Xeon chips.
Mac Pro Apple Silicon next year.
 
Ever since A6 in 2012, Apple Silicon SoCs have always debuted in the fall. This was only ever not the case with the A4 (which debuted in January of 2010) and A5 (which debuted in February of 2011). Given that M1 and A14 share core designs (and that M1 is effectively what A14X would've been [and then some]), and the rumors that M2 will be A15-based in the same fashion, it's safe to assume a fall launch on anything M2 based. If we're dealing with M1X in tow, then I'd say a launch is more imminent. But it seems as though Apple is, at least for now, not leaning into "X"/"Z" designations and is instead trying to lean into marketing various step-ups of Apple Silicon as entirely difference series. We'll see what happens when it's time to put out an Apple Silicon Mac Pro (as there's no way that such a machine is getting the same SoC that goes in an iPad Pro or a MacBook Air).
 
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Anyone else who bought an M1 Mac last year, thinking they'd keep it for just 6-8 months until the 16" MBPs came out, feeling really good about their decision now? :)
I am feeling really good about my decision. The M1 MacBook Air is the best MacBook I’ve ever owned, and I’ve owned a lot of different MacBooks Pro. The only limitation that matters to me is the lack of support fo more than one external monitors, but I solved that with a DisplayLink dock.
 
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Won't arrive until 2022 (Apple's 2022 that is... just to make a "prediction" sound more bold than it is)
 
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