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When the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina display is going to be released?
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I feel almost exactly the opposite. I just started using a Windoze (7) machine again after a several month hiatus and I'm shocked at how poorly text looks and how difficult it is to read after working exclusively on non-retina macs (and non-retina iphones) for 6 months.
Some more insight to that:
This was in fact !! a true difference between Windows and Mac systems. Windows systems did not use Anti Aliasing on their fonts and used hard pixel fonts, while Macs did use smoothing. Though it highly depends on the displays pixel density, fonts do look blurrier if you smooth them, especially small fonts.
The large this is the small text magnified 400%, so you can see the differences on a pixel basis.
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But there's big cons to un-anti aliased fonts: Sharp pixel fonts only look good if you use fonts that are optimized for that; Arial or Verdana for example and only at small sizes. Using the wrong font or size and your text will look like crap.
At first I was also very disturbed by the smoothed fonts (although you can actually turn it off up to a certain font size in your preferences), but I got used to it quickly and I now believe it's more a matter of viewing habits than a real problem.
And if you switched in 2008, you may have missed it: At least since Windows 7 all Windows PCs also have default smoothing turned onThe smoothed font on the left is actually a screenshot from a windows machine.
Well, in fact there is font smoothing in both Windows and OS X. The big difference is that Windows uses ClearType as the font rendering technology and OS X uses Quartz. ClearType is enhanced for readability on the screen (this is achieved by slightly distorting the fonts so they fit the pixel grid), and Quartz makes fonts look on the screen exactly as they do on a piece of paper.
Look at this article for reference: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/vista-puts-mac-os-x-font-rendering-to-shame/682
I use both OS X 10.7 Lion and Windows 7. Fonts in Windows 7 look indeed much sharper than they do in OS X. That is particularly noticeable on smaller fonts, which I use a lot.
And the disappointment must be even worse!.. I'm gonna order the Air during the weekend
I think the truth is somewhere in between.
Like Jacob said, his Retina display doesn't display texts much sharper than his other Macs.
And my experience also reflects that. At 1920 x 1200 effective desktop, there is no discernible difference between texts. At any other scaled resolutions, Retina texts look more detailed and smoother, but they don't look "sharper".
Try Windows 7 at 199% DPI scaling on a rMBP and you'll see "sharp". It's razor. Almost at a killer level. It's so sharp that I felt dizzy staring at it for a while, and ultimately, I do my text editing and coding on Mac now rather than on Windows, unless I need Visual Studio.
If Retina is good for anything, it's for the scaled resolution (1920 x 1200 desk space on a 15.4" screen) and for images. Image details immediately jump out and grab at you on the Retina display. There is no need to approximate or zoom to see how your photo is out of focus, or if your hand slightly moved by 1mm when you pressed the shutter. It's that kind of detail.
yeah, if my wife didn't have an air she rarely uses I would be buying one too. I am so sold on the retina though, I'm going to wait. Hopefully not too long.
More bad news
Shipments of Apple's new products a Retina Display 13-inch MacBook Pro, 7.85-inch iPad and iMac have reportedly been delayed from September to October and with the year-end holidays approaching, the upstream supply chain is aggressively preparing for expected strong orders in both October and November, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.
The shipment delay is said to have been caused by weak yields of the Retina Display, the sources noted.
Apple's new small-size iPad (iPad Mini), which is manufactured by Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry) and Pegatron Technology, a reportedly suffering low yields for components such as the display and chassis, causing the upstream suppliers to be unable to satisfy Apple's orders.
The sources pointed out that although the iPad Mini's chassis adopts a similar material as the 9.7-inch model, the iPad Mini's design and tactile feel will be different from those of the larger model.
Apple's strong orders are expected to benefit its upstream partners including Foxconn, Quanta Computer, Pegatron, Simplo, Dynapack, Shin Zu Shing (SZS), Jarlly, Catcher, Foxconn Tech, Auras, Furukawa, AcBel and Foxlink, and these players are also preparing for the orders.
Shipments of Apple's new products a Retina Display 13-inch MacBook Pro, 7.85-inch iPad and iMac have reportedly been delayed from September to October and with the year-end holidays approaching, the upstream supply chain is aggressively preparing for expected strong orders in both October and November, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.
The shipment delay is said to have been caused by weak yields of the Retina Display, the sources noted.
Apple's new small-size iPad (iPad Mini), which is manufactured by Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry) and Pegatron Technology, a reportedly suffering low yields for components such as the display and chassis, causing the upstream suppliers to be unable to satisfy Apple's orders.
The sources pointed out that although the iPad Mini's chassis adopts a similar material as the 9.7-inch model, the iPad Mini's design and tactile feel will be different from those of the larger model.
Apple's strong orders are expected to benefit its upstream partners including Foxconn, Quanta Computer, Pegatron, Simplo, Dynapack, Shin Zu Shing (SZS), Jarlly, Catcher, Foxconn Tech, Auras, Furukawa, AcBel and Foxlink, and these players are also preparing for the orders.
The source of these news appears to be Digitimes: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20121011PD200.html?mod=3&q=APPLE
Although they are not reliable, this kind of news sounds like the truth.
I'm done waiting. Just pulled the trigger on a 13" MBA 1.8 i5/8GB/256G. I'll wait until the 13" rMBP is proven to have no display or other issues. Perhaps I'll wait until the Haswell chipset makes it to the lineup, and then switch to the 13" rMBP.
Me too but i dont know if i should get a rmbp 15 or air 13 , i had 2 airs 13 one i 7. And other in5 , but dont know if 15 inch is too big
Ditto.. Buying the air tomorrow. Don't wanna join this waiting-game anymore..
Going for the exact same wonder - perhaps with i7 though.. You know how long customized models takes to ship?
But the article states the shipment is starting shipment in October - but that ain't gonna happen, since invitations missed
Sold them to get the rmbp 13, i had every macbook apple has produced, but never owned a retina. Is it too big?
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I had customize i7 with 8 gb of ram, and generic i5, it feels the same, so i would opt for the i5 since the i7 cost me like 1850 , also takes about 1-2 weeks.
They don't have to send invitations to anybody. They may just call an event to the following day, like they did before. Or they may just release the refreshed MacBook Pro with no event at all.
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Wow, you shouldn't have sold it before the new 13-inch retina MacBook got released. It's all rumors by now.
I don't have a 15-inch retina. It's not too big, but it's considerably bigger than a MacBook Air.
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if this rMBP 13" is going ever to be released by the end of this year It makes me wonder how is it going to be, after all the problems with the rMBP 15"....
I would wait until a second gen is released on the market before committing that kind of money into it. The $3000 Russian roulette is too costly for me...
I would wait until a second gen is released on the market before committing that kind of money into it. The $3000 Russian roulette is too costly for me...
i sold them for a profit of course, but the thing is weather 15 retina or 13 air for the wait. I just saw the applebite cnet and they thtink it might be realsed on next year too.
Apple won't release such a device without making a big fuss about it... But I mean; i'ts soon the end of October and there is nothing what so ever, that indicates this ever happening..
Don't know about it. The biggest fuss has already been done with the release of the 15-inch retina model. The 13-inch retina is a follow-up.
Anyway, there is still plenty of time for Apple to call an event in October. I still don't think it will happen in October, though.
Yeah, but they really like to do their media stunts, so it's not gonna be a silent new store-update that'll bring this to life - no way..
Well, now the event seems to have moved to October 23... but it's reportedly for the iPad mini, and no further word on the retina 13-inch MacBook Pro.