An update isn’t high on my list of needs. I only use the device to watch live sports, news, and sometimes a movie. If Gurman ever takes a vacation it’ll sure be quiet around here.
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When to Expect a New Apple TV to Launch
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My ATV 4K 2021 is my main TV streaming device. I have it connected to my Sony OLED and Denon receiver. I can't imagine any thing else I need for it to do. I watch my apps just fine like Netflix, Disney, Fubo, etc.. The interface beats the living daylights out of the Google TV interface that came with the Sony. I hardly ever use it. The ATV is responsive, the remote works everything and I have no issues with Siri button placement. My only gripe is something the same screensaver runs day after day but it that is the worst thing about the ATV, then so be it. If they do upgrade the box, they better not mess with the picture quality.
This product surely hasn't evolved a lot in the last 8 years. Only very minor incremental updates, in both hardware and software departments.
There are bugs still obvious to the users, like the inability to correctly sync the content of the Search Field in the iPhone TV Remote with the Search Fields in tvOS which is driving me absolutely crazy since 2016. Since then, I've had 3 different Apple TVs models, 3 different iPhone models, 3 different routers, 3 different modems, 3 different Internet Providers, so don't tell me it's my hardware. In maybe 8 iterations of tvOS, this bug is still affecting me every single day. 👎
There are bugs still obvious to the users, like the inability to correctly sync the content of the Search Field in the iPhone TV Remote with the Search Fields in tvOS which is driving me absolutely crazy since 2016. Since then, I've had 3 different Apple TVs models, 3 different iPhone models, 3 different routers, 3 different modems, 3 different Internet Providers, so don't tell me it's my hardware. In maybe 8 iterations of tvOS, this bug is still affecting me every single day. 👎
“In the U.S., the current Apple TV starts at $129 with 64GB of storage, and a 128GB model with an added Ethernet port is available for $149.”
the $149 version also has thread built in, which is why I bought that version. I’ve bought every generation starting with the first one. Not sure what would entice me to buy the next one from what I can see in this article. I’m fine with that. Current one works fine for me.
the $149 version also has thread built in, which is why I bought that version. I’ve bought every generation starting with the first one. Not sure what would entice me to buy the next one from what I can see in this article. I’m fine with that. Current one works fine for me.
I think that point is important. Apple TV (and other streaming devices) get updates quickly...with TV's it can be hit or miss, the same as the availability with some apps.
Plus, it is portable, so it is easy to travel with.
I share your position towards about Apple TV.
IMO is one of the most inferior Apple products and it had no enticing upgrade path, though I went through it.
You would think that in Apple ecosystem it would provide more functionality but ultimately it’s a very expensive player which is plagued with bugs or stutter in my case.
Frequent disconnects from Home Pods on different expensive routers.
I hope 🍏 comes out with something more appealing.
I tried to rent a movie on my @TV today and their software is such a train wreck we settled for something from a completely different platform. I have owned at least a half dozen @tvs including the first generation, and the software is so terrible I hardly use them anymore.
Considering I was a heavy @TV user for many years it is a shocking change for me to embrace apps on Samsung devices in favour of my @tvs.
Considering I was a heavy @TV user for many years it is a shocking change for me to embrace apps on Samsung devices in favour of my @tvs.
The reality is Apple had YEARS of opportunity to knock Apple TV out of the park. And much like Siri, they dawdled and squandered and the ship has long since left.
The future of Apple TV, if there is one, exists as an app on other's smart TVs. They might try one more iteration, but I'd expect the hardware's days to be numbered.
I dont know what new things are going to sell an updated Apple TV besides better gaming... the current gen is actually massively powerful already.. but that power is just not utilised at all.
Its way, way overpowered as just another streaming device (and if its streaming you want... you can do it way cheaper using a TV built in smart features or an Amazon Firestick or Roku etc)... surely they have something up their sleeve.
Its way, way overpowered as just another streaming device (and if its streaming you want... you can do it way cheaper using a TV built in smart features or an Amazon Firestick or Roku etc)... surely they have something up their sleeve.
I’d prefer a miniature independent AppleTV camera. Something very small powered by USB-c and you can easily attach in the best location. It would be able to be used as a security camera or a FaceTime camera via wireless connection to the AppleTV. Something like a repurposed camera from a recent iPhone model.
The original Apple TV HD remote completely blew it for me. I was incredibly frustrating to use. I know they released a new remote, but I'd already switched to other devices. I currently have no interest in returning.
I live alone so 99% of the time i do not. If someone comes over to watch a movie I have an LG OLED and a nice surround sound system but everyday after work I am very much enjoying the theater experience the Vision Pro gives me
The whole reason I got an Apple TV was the poor experience both my TV and cheaper streaming boxes were giving me. My 2019 Samsung TV was getting a tad slow and didn't support all the streaming services I'm using. Cheaper Android boxes just gave me headaches with poorly managed updates, crashes and whatnot.
I got myself an Apple TV and the experience so far has been awesome. I can stream my music library through iTunes Match, have quick access to my podcasts, all the streaming apps are there, love the aerial screensavers and the performance is in one word amazing. Haven't had any crashes or whatever and updates are plentiful and immediately available.
You get what you pay for I guess.
Faster better more capable Apple TV yes! Better more usable remote with at least some spill resistance, Yes! Camera, NO unless it can be physically covered or removed, no exceptions! No bull crap light when it’s on none of that I’m tired of being tracked to the 72nd degree! And if you can work in a commercial skip that would be great!
Been switching over to Fire TV 4K Max gen 1 now gen 2. Dirt cheap, responsive and one provider I want I can side load their app. App not available on ATV. I do remove Alexa button and microphone for added privacy. Great gadgets.
In what way is the ATV so much better than the Fire Stick 4K Max? I have both (6 ATV, 3 Fire TV 4K Max Gen 1, 4 Gen 2).
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Good idea. Here's a variant: roll out a new AppleTV with either a dedicated wireless original iSight-like camera (possibly powered by the USB jack in some TVs) or a "normal" USB-C port to which any of the USB cams could be connected. This is key to resolving the AppleTV box placement issue... which makes a built-in camera make no sense except for those few who position their AppleTV immediately above or below the center of their TV. Place/store it anywhere else and those on the other end won't see you looking at them when you FaceTime or Zoom.
For audio, let that phone or iPad or remote near you be the microphone... and maybe HomePods for those who lean on them.
Same. The RAM efficiency on the 2022 model versus my old 2017 model is night and day.
I actually ran into an issue where an app was stored in memory from a live event 2 weeks prior. Of course it wouldn’t play, it was from 2 weeks ago! But, the fact that the Apple TV held that app without refreshing for TWO WEEKS is astounding.
I was imagining a new remote with a trackpad instead of a dpad. The Home button functioning as the power button. The PLay button moved to the bottom left. T/he Siri button it just above and slightly recessed. And double click the Siri button to mute among other possibilities. Probably never happen.
Upgrading to the A16 doesn’t make much sense. A rebranded A17 or A18 based on the new N3E process might bring some performance improvements, but who knows if those improvements will make much of a difference? We already know that the next Apple TV 4K won’t come anywhere close to my PS5 in gaming performance. When it comes to streaming, the current generation Apple TV 4K couldn’t be better. With the possibility of console gaming with a future model, based on the 15 Pro, proceed with caution. A lot of it.
Minimally, I don't need to remove a button and microphone to maintain my privacy.
a built in camera makes zero sense. It would force placement of a device with 2 cords (hdmi/power) out into the open. 3 cords if you are using Ethernet. Apple doesn’t like cords. And most people try to hide this stuff. Behind the tv. In the media center. It just doesn’t pass the smell test.
I think they stick with the iphone as a camera but a possibility they enter the ring camera market. An external camera for your ATV or your iphone/ipad.
They could and would go upscale. And given that, I can imagine they put a big zoom on the thing given the limitations of doing so on an iPHone. Parents could bring it to their kid's game or concert. Magsafe attach to the iOS device. Boom you a powerful camera for filming the special event. Easily put away when not needed.
And easily mounted somewhere around the tv for video conferencing on the AppleTV.
...But there's already a lot of competition in the external wireless camera market afaik. Not sure what apple would bring to the table. CAn apple make using one easier and more seamless?
I think they stick with the iphone as a camera but a possibility they enter the ring camera market. An external camera for your ATV or your iphone/ipad.
They could and would go upscale. And given that, I can imagine they put a big zoom on the thing given the limitations of doing so on an iPHone. Parents could bring it to their kid's game or concert. Magsafe attach to the iOS device. Boom you a powerful camera for filming the special event. Easily put away when not needed.
And easily mounted somewhere around the tv for video conferencing on the AppleTV.
...But there's already a lot of competition in the external wireless camera market afaik. Not sure what apple would bring to the table. CAn apple make using one easier and more seamless?
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