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Not really sure what the point of a new Apple TV is. The A17 Pro still isn't fast enough to play AAA games (look at the reviews for RE4 / RE Village on iPhone 15 Pro) and I don't think the A16 adds much over the current A15. M-series chip maybe, but that is bound to increase the price, rather than decrease it.
It’s called hardware codec support
 
It’s called hardware codec support
Can the A15 not decode AV1 in software? Also AV1 adoption may be inevitable, but YouTube / Netflix are not going to disable HEVC/AVC support until most of their users can watch AV1. Given only Apple users with M3 or A17Pro devices have AV1 hardware support, I'm guessing the switch-off on HEVC/AVC isn't going to be for years, but which point there will be a bigger driver for a new AppleTV (A18 or M3 chip for example).
 
"Apple said the A15 Bionic chip's increased power efficiency allowed for the fan to be removed in the current Apple TV, resulting in the device having a more compact design that is around 12% thinner and around 50% lighter than the previous model."

Yeah, and it now consistently throttles due to excess heat. Hoping the new one will be better in this area.
Does it ever throttle in normal use, or just when gaming? I don't own one, as I'm still making do with a crappy FireStick.

Edit: I found the answers elsewhere in this thread. It's disappointing that it would throttle even when playing games, honestly. The heatsink must be pathetic- or non existent. I'm happy to have a near silent fan inside it, but a largish heatsink would do the trick too- I don't see why there is a need to make the device tiny/lightweight.

How the heck does a device with a 6W SoC fail to deal with the heat it generates? What's going on in there???
 
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$99/£99 for one of these would be a sensible price point. No second model is really needed. The extra storage costs Apple all of 50 cents, and an Ethernet cable connection should help it run cooler especially if WiFi is a bit shoddy.
 
How about making the current one work properly. I am sick of the glitches and constantly having to reboot. Reload apps. Audio sync issues. Pixelated video. My Roku makes this pos look like a …pos!
 
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How about making the current one work properly. I am sick of the glitches and constantly having to reboot. Reload apps. Audio sync issues. Pixelated video. My Roku makes this pos look like a …pos!
Ugh, Apple love audio synch issues. After the HomePod debacle (that they never resolved), I'm not sure I could ever trust wireless speakers again.

Edit: Having to reboot at all sounds like a fail. Is it random or when the thing overheats?
 
Uhh...WHY does it need updating ?
It still works, it still does everything that is needed. There can be an argument made that the software needs fixing, but the hardware ?
Here's the thing. Just because they release a new version, you don't need to buy it if you're happy with your current one.

Improving products is a good thing for those without one already or those interested in upgrading.
 
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If it has AV1 support sign me up. Switching all my apple products to ones that support AV1 decode so i can switch my plex to AV1 for the file size savings.
100% this.

My long term media library is already AV1. That means Plex won't play it, so I have to use Infuse to watch it on the ATV (the hardware is powerful enough to do software decode, but Plex wont' do it).

I can't wait for new ATV hardware that supports AV1, so I can get rid of Infuse again.
 
Hopefully it will still have the Ethernet port for those with fast home wired networks. Always more reliable than wifi.
Only the 'premium' current version comes with Ethernet, annoyingly. I agree that for many of us Ethernet still makes sense- if you place it close to an Ethernet socket it would make no sense not to connect it physically.
 
The A17 Pro has AV1 hardware on chip; so I would bet they'll include it in the next update.

Question though - storage is cheap. Why bother reencoding to save a bit of space? The time-value doesn't seem to be there. I personally prefer remuxes to keep everything as close to original as possible, and let Plex transcode as needed. Yea they take up a ton of space and it's arguably inefficient, but storage is cheaper than ever and a good NAS + Plex Server can use less power combined than a lightbulb.
Personally, it's not "reencoding", unless you mean keeping a 60gb bluray rip around. I start with a full quality 50-60gb file, and use that to encode as AV1. Space is cheap, but not cheap enough that I want hundreds to thousands of 50-60gb each files. A 5-6gb AV1 is hard for me to distinguish from the above, and drastically cuts down on storage needs. It's also not that big a deal-- start the encode(s), and then later it's done. No skin off my back while its happening (computer remains completely usable), so who cares.

I only bother with AV1 for the long term library. Things I watch once and get rid of I just leave as enormous files.
 
Needs just updated internals more memory both ram and storage maybe an M1 chip a camera and mic but most of all a HDMI multi room accompaniment stick linked to the box. I would use this in all my TV’s then
 
The problem with the software the TV manufacturers put in their TV is that they don't keep it up to date + there is no guarantee that all the streaming services are available for the TV you have bought, it depends on which operating system is used. Of course, with Google's system it's no problem, but then we have Samsung with their Tizen or whatever they call it.

I have a Samsung 65" top model from 2021, and there are several "local" apps I can download for it, which in addition to the fact that it was the top model, the software is stuttering, and poor and impossible to type quickly on .Apple TV is faster, fluid, and has all the apps I need, so I never use my TV's built-in software. But if the TV manufacturers get it under control, I agree - then Apple TV will be redundant.

Maybe Apple should make a TV interface for the TV manufacturers, just as they make CarPlay for the cars.

Agreed. Also, the software on my Vizio is way too sluggish.
 
It’s the lightning version but otherwise the same. I’m glad you’ve never experienced this, but the button on mine is sensitive enough to be pressed just by picking it up without consciously avoiding the button. I don’t think it’s broken as it came this way and otherwise works as expected. Maybe Apple adjusted the pressure sensitivity in the usb c version? I haven’t heard anything to that effect in the reviews but it’s possible.

I’ve Also had mine activate Siri accidentally if I pick it up from certain angles. That and the power button popping off are quite annoying
 
ATV Box - Chip=M1 - RAM=16GB+ - Storage=128GB+ - Cam=Separate - AV1 Support - Ports - 2xHDMI & USB C - Format Support = Both 8K & 3D

Price - under £200/$200

Peripheral - HDMI Multiroom Stick using ATV AS Main box (£49/$49)
Peripheral - Wireless Cam or iPhone/iPad holder solution
Peripheral - Some remote improvements as mentioned
 
Why use PleX instead of Infuse? Honest question.
I use both.

Plex is a platform. Infuse is a client for accessing other platforms, one of which is Plex. This understanding is fundamental to the reason. Platforms are great for organizational tasks. I see set-top boxes (such as ATV) as merely client devices, and trying to use them for organizational tasks is a poor experience.

I used to use Infuse alone to access a simple network share. But there were a few annoyances that got me to turn to Plex.

First, Infuse doesn't sync metadata libraries across devices very well. I would identify a certain file as a certain movie on one device, and it sometimes would sync over to other devices and sometimes wouldn't. It's better to have the metadata library handled in one central place, and have all the clients merely access it.

Second, as my library grew bigger, Infuse would more frequently clear the cache and need to rebuild my library. Back when it was only a few hundred files, this took only a minute and was largely no big deal. But later this rebuild would be more frequent, and it would take 10-15 minutes to complete. And every time, all the custom-tagged movies would be reset. This just became annoying, and again I figured a dedicated permanent library that doesn't need to be rebuilt at the whom of tvOS would be better.

Third, I wanted optimization for smaller-screens and offline viewing. I love keeping everything in the highest quality possible, but there is no need on an iPad Mini or iPhone screen and 75GB movies fill up the storage space on those quickly. For smaller devices, being able to re-encode files on the fly for lower resolution and slightly lower quality would be awesome. Infuse simply doesn't do this, but on the right hardware Plex does it amazingly well.
 
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ATV Box - Chip=M1 - RAM=16GB+ - Storage=128GB+ - Cam=Separate - AV1 Support - Ports - 2xHDMI & USB C - Format Support = Both 8K & 3D

Price - under £200/$200

Peripheral - HDMI Multiroom Stick using ATV AS Main box (£49/$49)
Peripheral - Wireless Cam or iPhone/iPad holder solution
Peripheral - Some remote improvements as mentioned
Eh? M1 in an ATV Box? Apple won't even give people that spend £1600 on a MacBook Pro 16GB of RAM... Is this just your fantasy device?
 
Me too (I had the original from 2007, which was based on OS X and Front Row). 😄
Still have mine. I swapped out the WiFi for an additional Graphics card, and replaced the internal storage with SSD. Sure it is old, but it is still fun to play with. Try booting off of other OS's via USB, etc.

Edit: I still wish we had frontRow on Mac.
 
The reality is with TV's now coming with built in streaming software and the proliferation of cheap streaming sticks it makes less sense to be getting an Apple TV.

I have the 2015 vintage Apple TV HD. I bought it in September, 2015. That makes it 8.5 years old.

I also have a brand new Samsung Smart TV.

It is shocking to how slow and clunky my new, top-end "smart" TV is compared to my 8.5 year old Apple TV. The market continues to fail to achieve.
 
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