where do I get iPhone 6s plus with TSMC A9 chip ?

[HEK]

A couple of things. No two processors are identical, even if they have the same part number. I know that this is hard to understand if you've not worked in the semiconductor industry, but these things are not discrete pieces of metal that can be repeatedly cut to the same precise measurements. They are made up of things like silicon where no two on the same wafer even, are exactly the same. Through testing, they are determine to have certain characteristics to qualify them for a "part number". With memory chips, we built in redundant circuits so that if it failed certain tests we could blow some internal fuses and open up the redundant circuits. Our chips didn't get a part number until they were tested to figure out what they were. This is why the comparison of the two manufacturers is kind of futile... because the differences fall within the noise range of the product variance that would exist even if there were one supplier.

I think you also have this backwards by your statement. Apple spec'd the outside requirements, not specifically how the suppliers had to get to them.

Bottom line is that there is variance in all electronic components, period. There will always be attempts by techies to find the "best" of the "best" via continually running benchmarks.... one supplier, two suppliers, 10 suppliers... the combination of components and different possible test cases is so complex that its a bit of a futile exercise unless you just enjoying doing it as a hobby. The percentage of iPhone buyers that care about these minuscule differences is a tiny fraction.

I'm all for geeks having fun comparing chips. Where I get very frustrated is when they start taking gross advantage of a really good return policy by Apple, If they keep doing this then Apple will eventually be pushed to crack down and will probably tighten the policy... thus ruining it for the normal buyers that don't return a phone a dozen times chasing a unicorn.

As a side note no two pieces of metal are identical either. ALL manufactured products have variation. If these variations fall within not tolerance limits they are deemed usable. If not they are scrap. Outward appearance is not the test for acceptance unless their are cosmetic tolerances as well like paint color.

And I also share your concern that abusing the return policy may induce Apple to tighten that policy causing people with REAL issues to get screwed.

 

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As a side note no two pieces of metal are identical either. ALL manufactured products have variation. If these variations fall within not tolerance limits they are deemed usable. If not they are scrap. Outward appearance is not the test for acceptance unless their are cosmetic tolerances as well like paint color.

And I also share your concern that abusing the return policy may induce Apple to tighten that policy causing people with REAL issues to get screwed.

I know, but there is way more variance in semiconductors ... growing crystals with millions of parts... vs. cutting a piece of metal. I suppose is you examined it with a microscope you'd see just as much variance. Those variances don't manifest themselves in measurable performance variations... or maybe they do... not my area of expertise.

 

[xmichaelp]

where do I get iPhone 6s plus with TSMC A9 chip ? Which apple retail store/model has high possibility to have TSMC chip. Please share from your experience. I have already returned 6 phones by now but keep getting samsung chip. Please help

I wish Apple would ban people like you who abuse the return policy for no reason whatsoever.

 

[cynics]

I wish Apple would ban people like you who abuse the return policy for no reason whatsoever.

Why would you consider that abuse?

I'm curious to hear what you'd consider acceptable reasons for returns.

 

[AYNOM]

Picked up my iPhone 6S+ the other day and it has a Samsung chip. The battery life is actually noticeably better than my Note 3 and lasts me all day without the need to charge. No reason to stress over not having a TSMC chip, love the phone.

 

[Donoban]

Why would you consider that abuse?

I'm curious to hear what you'd consider acceptable reasons for returns.

The guy has returned a brand new phone 6 times because he wants a TSMC chip which for all practical purposes is identical to the Samsung.

How about the people ordering 3-4 phones in a single hit, opening all of them and comparing screens, CPU types, etc. Keeping the best one and returning the others. loooooolz.

The ironic thing is, come iPhone 7 release, no one is going to care what kind of CPU is in your iPhone 6s.

 

[sunking101]

The ironic thing is, come iPhone 7 release, no one is going to care what kind of CPU is in your iPhone 6s.

It obviously matters to some of those buying the 6S+ now and paying top dollar. If we're only to care about the next impending iPhone then why bother buying one at all, ever.

 

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Why would you consider that abuse?

I'm curious to hear what you'd consider acceptable reasons for returns.

Having an actual defect would be a reason or returning it once because they don't like it.

 

[ABC5S]

What silliness from those that keep on returning them. Some people. Like to see who these people are and what age

 

[Qbnkelt]

I really hope Apple would ban people like this from making these frivolous exchanges and returns.
Best customer service in the industry and these people are taking advantage of it by abusing it.
Pathetic.

 

[Donoban]

It obviously matters to some of those buying the 6S+ now and paying top dollar. If we're only to care about the next impending iPhone then why bother buying one at all, ever.

Just trying to put it context brah. Dead pixels, chips, etc, I get all those. But CPU type? Come on, surely you can come around to that.

 

[cynics]

Having an actual defect would be a reason or returning it once because they don't like it.

You would get a warranty exchange for a defect and he is returning it because he doesn't like it.

Apple is a pretty smart company they know a return policy like that will be abused to a certain extent. Beside the true Apple apologist will condemn any reason to use it.

 

[cynics]

Just trying to put it context brah. Dead pixels, chips, etc, I get all those. But CPU type? Come on, surely you can come around to that.

Those are defects covered by warranty, not the 14 day return policy.

 

[DADDYDC650]

The guy has returned a brand new phone 6 times because he wants a TSMC chip which for all practical purposes is identical to the Samsung.

How about the people ordering 3-4 phones in a single hit, opening all of them and comparing screens, CPU types, etc. Keeping the best one and returning the others. loooooolz.

The ironic thing is, come iPhone 7 release, no one is going to care what kind of CPU is in your iPhone 6s.

What's funny is that after choosing the "best" one, they will eventually find another flaw and exchange it yet again. The cycle never ends.

 

[HEK]

I know, but there is way more variance in semiconductors ... growing crystals with millions of parts... vs. cutting a piece of metal. I suppose is you examined it with a microscope you'd see just as much variance. Those variances don't manifest themselves in measurable performance variations... or maybe they do... not my area of expertise.

Depends on what you are making. A bracket to hold spark plug wires, not so much. Piston shape that is fitted to each cylinder bore so you hold compression and don't burn oil before 100,000 miles. Match marking tire and wheel assemblies so you don't feel the imbalance at highway speeds. Shape and weight of turbine blades for the jet engine on the plane I next fly on so it lands on runway and not in corn field. Short answer they certainly do manifest themselves in measurable performance variations.

 

[HEK]

What's funny is that after choosing the "best" one, they will eventually find another flaw and exchange it yet again. The cycle never ends.

That's called the "I have the newest iPhone because I exchange it every two weeks" syndrome.

 

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You would get a warranty exchange for a defect and he is returning it because he doesn't like it.

Apple is a pretty smart company they know a return policy like that will be abused to a certain extent. Beside the true Apple apologist will condemn any reason to use it.

You missed the key word in my response. Returning it ONCE because you don't like it. Continuing to buy it and return it over and over again because you don't like it is a misuse of the policy. Taken to the extreme, you could basically use a phone for free by returning it every week and then buying a different one.

Apple is a smart company, and my concern is that they decide to crack down on the nut jobs and then apply a more restrictive policy to everyone. A few nut jobs end up ruining it for everyone else. And that does happen a lot.

 

[cynics]

You missed the key word in my response. Returning it ONCE because you don't like it. Continuing to buy it and return it over and over again because you don't like it is a misuse of the policy. Taken to the extreme, you could basically use a phone for free by returning it every week and then buying a different one.

Apple is a smart company, and my concern is that they decide to crack down on the nut jobs and then apply a more restrictive policy to everyone. A few nut jobs end up ruining it for everyone else. And that does happen a lot.

You are right, I apologize for misreading your post.

I should mention I have seen post on this forum although rare where Apple won't resell a device because of returning what they considered to be a defective device. I just spent 15 minutes searching but I could not find the thread it probably made its way to the wasteland or locked/removed or I just can't find it.

 

[Qbnkelt]

You would get a warranty exchange for a defect and he is returning it because he doesn't like it.

Apple is a pretty smart company they know a return policy like that will be abused to a certain extent. Beside the true Apple apologist will condemn any reason to use it.

A defect is one thing. Changes because of a chip where the device is NOT malfunctioning is frivolous and an abuse of the return policy.

 

[cnotes2019]

Time to close the thread it's pointless. A chip? One wasnt manufactured by whoever makes Dora the Explorer.....

 

[cynics]

A defect is one thing. Changes because of a chip where the device is NOT malfunctioning is frivolous and an abuse of the return policy.

Again a defect or malfunction is covered under warranty, not the return policy.

Apple states, if you are not thrilled with the product you have 14 days to return it. What makes his subjective feeling of being thrilled frivolous and abusive?

I find it incredible that I'm asking myself if I'm being self righteous because I can understand someone has an opinion that varies from my own (like I mentioned in my first post, I didn't care witch I got).

Let's face it whether there is any actual value or not is to be seen, doesn't stop it from being sold that way though. (All eBay)



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That alone doesn't say much however eBay search iPhone 6S Samsung and you don't get any result which shows that the TSMC is more desirable.

The OP is another point in case, he finds the TSMC more desirable. So what's wrong with being thrilled to have a more desirable iPhone?

 

[thegrants82]

where do I get iPhone 6s plus with TSMC A9 chip ? Which apple retail store/model has high possibility to have TSMC chip. Please share from your experience. I have already returned 6 phones by now but keep getting samsung chip. Please help

It's a roll of the dice. I had the Samsung and returned mine for a TSMC. Lucky me and definitely a higher resale!

 

[Qbnkelt]

Again a defect or malfunction is covered under warranty, not the return policy.

Apple states, if you are not thrilled with the product you have 14 days to return it. What makes his subjective feeling of being thrilled frivolous and abusive?

I find it incredible that I'm asking myself if I'm being self righteous because I can understand someone has an opinion that varies from my own (like I mentioned in my first post, I didn't care witch I got).

Let's face it whether there is any actual value or not is to be seen, doesn't stop it from being sold that way though. (All eBay)

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That alone doesn't say much however eBay search iPhone 6S Samsung and you don't get any result which shows that the TSMC is more desirable.

The OP is another point in case, he finds the TSMC more desirable. So what's wrong with being thrilled to have a more desirable iPhone?

The point is that frivolous returns like these mentioned here can result in repercussions for those of us who don't play the system or a use a company's policy. You can quibble all you want in respect to warranty or return policy but the fact remains that returning perfectly functioning phones over a chip that is not failing to perform per the company's specs is abuse of the return policy. Make all. The excuses and rationalisations you want. It is frivolous. And I hope Apple does something to stop them in the future. These people should get hit with at the very least a 50 quid restocking fee.

 

[Qbnkelt]

What's funny is that after choosing the "best" one, they will eventually find another flaw and exchange it yet again. The cycle never ends.

Exactly. I REALLY hope Apple institutes a restocking fee for these people.

 

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Let's face it whether there is any actual value or not is to be seen, doesn't stop it from being sold that way though. (All eBay)

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That alone doesn't say much however eBay search iPhone 6S Samsung and you don't get any result which shows that the TSMC is more desirable.

The OP is another point in case, he finds the TSMC more desirable. So what's wrong with being thrilled to have a more desirable iPhone?

Nothing wrong with being thrilled about anything. Its wrong to abuse a return policy looking for a thrill.

As for people listing TSMC in their for sale listing... they are trying to make a quick buck. There are always "fads" that will result in people paying good money for something that in the end is worthless. Go back to the beanie baby days... now... not so much.

It's a roll of the dice. I had the Samsung and returned mine for a TSMC. Lucky me and definitely a higher resale!

Glad you are happy with your accomplishment. Good luck with that resale value! By the time you are ready to sell it, the fad of the day will be something different and no one will care about what chip your iPhone has.