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Mississippi State University. See avatar pic.
Don't feel bad, Duke. I took 10 years to finish my bachelor's. That's what happens when you change majors twice, drop out, and work full time while trying to go to school. I'm either persistent or stubborn.
That said, all that was for a B.A. in history, so I know a bit about "useless" degrees.
I did things backwards. By the time I actually finished my degree, I had decided that tech stuff was going to be my chosen career. I was going to switch to a tech related field that didn't involve calculus (see above about changing majors), but I decided to finish the degree and move forward from there. I eventually did things backwards. I went back to school and got an Associate's degree in computer networking. That degree has proven much more useful in my current career than my B.A.
Life experience wise, going to a decent sized four year university was a wonderful thing for me. Realistically, however, had something like the Associate's program I went through been available when I came out of high school, I would have gone there instead.
Don't feel bad, Duke. I took 10 years to finish my bachelor's. That's what happens when you change majors twice, drop out, and work full time while trying to go to school. I'm either persistent or stubborn.
That said, all that was for a B.A. in history, so I know a bit about "useless" degrees.
I did things backwards. By the time I actually finished my degree, I had decided that tech stuff was going to be my chosen career. I was going to switch to a tech related field that didn't involve calculus (see above about changing majors), but I decided to finish the degree and move forward from there. I eventually did things backwards. I went back to school and got an Associate's degree in computer networking. That degree has proven much more useful in my current career than my B.A.
Life experience wise, going to a decent sized four year university was a wonderful thing for me. Realistically, however, had something like the Associate's program I went through been available when I came out of high school, I would have gone there instead.
San Diego State University for a BS in Marketing and a minor in Television & Film (2008)
Also did two summer study abroad sessions at New College; Oxford University.
Also did two summer study abroad sessions at New College; Oxford University.
Another Cal Poly person here. I did some undergrad work there, but finished elsewhere and did graduate work elsewhere. But if I had stayed in San Luis Obispo, I would have done it all Cal Poly, regardless of major or level of education. (However, they don't do law, medical, pharmacy, or dental schools).
While a pretty decent school, what really made Cal Poly great for me was the town of San Luis Obispo. I went there nearly 3 decades ago and the last time I visited in 2000, the town was basically the same with it's small town charm.
A few years ago I looked into teaching there and that would have been a sweet gig.
wow, there were lots of ohioan's on that first page!
REP-RE-SENT!
Anywaysss
Im living in the good ol' rubber city, and go to the University of Akron, in Akron, OH- going for my Management of information systems
2 more semesters left.... but I dont want to leave! I freaking love it here.
side note- our mascot Zippy is on the very few female college mascots. But dont get me wrong, she will kick your arse, literally. She's a kangaroo
REP-RE-SENT!
Anywaysss
Im living in the good ol' rubber city, and go to the University of Akron, in Akron, OH- going for my Management of information systems
2 more semesters left.... but I dont want to leave! I freaking love it here.
side note- our mascot Zippy is on the very few female college mascots. But dont get me wrong, she will kick your arse, literally. She's a kangaroo
University of British Columbia - BSEE
George Washington University - MS Project Management
Oxford - MS Major Program Management (just starting)
George Washington University - MS Project Management
Oxford - MS Major Program Management (just starting)
wow, there were lots of ohioan's on that first page!
REP-RE-SENT!
Anywaysss
Im living in the good ol' rubber city, and go to the University of Akron, in Akron, OH- going for my Management of information systems
2 more semesters left.... but I dont want to leave! I freaking love it here.
side note- our mascot Zippy is on the very few female college mascots. But dont get me wrong, she will kick your arse, literally. She's a kangaroo
Lot of roos in Ohio, eh?
Nah I know but it doesn't mean much in every field. For example, the ones going to Cal Poly SLO ... that matters. That is going to open doors that would not be opened if you were to go to say Wake Forest. I get your point but I hate hearing people generalize (I think we agree here) things like the name of a college carrying much weight in all fields.
TCC a.k.a. juco here in DFW area; plan on going back for my BA at some point at @ UNT although TCU is a dream school for me. Way too much dough to go there though and sadly I 'make too much' for grants, etc.
Wow, I have been considering the same school/major/minor. What got you into it? Any advice is appreciated.
Assist.org claims that SDSU doesn't have a marketing major (or any business-related major for that matter). But then I've never found assist.org to really be useful.
SDSU (San Diego State Univeristy, not South Dakota State) has LOTS of business majors and minors. They have an entire college dedicated to it - http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~cba/
They most definitely have Marketing and have a very successful IMC (Integrated Marketing Communications) program.
Things could also be regional. Being from California, I do know that Wake Forest is better than Cal Poly, but I didn't know how good they were. If I were to give Cal Poly three stars, I wouldn't know if Wake Forest was four stars of five stars.
Just doing a wiki on it shows out of 2,000 accredited colleges and universities, Wake Forest scored the 11th best undergraduate teaching in the country for national universities (which includes the likes of Harvard, Yale, and Columbia). That's extremely impressive, especially due to all the accredited institutions they are up against. So Wake Forest, as I only found out today, is a five star institution.
Cal Poly scores highly as a regional Western university, which means as a non-research/non-PhD institution, they are recognized in the western states.
Even though I finished up my bachelor's degree at a national university, but it was 4th tier out of 4 tiers. For what it's worth, I think a top tier western, eastern, northern, or southern regional university is pretty much the same thing as a third or fourth tier national university if we are talking about undergraduate education and the doors it can open nationwide.
There are some third and fourth tier national institutions, many of which I never heard of, which while probably great and full of PhD programs and law schools/medical schools, are just not names I can distinguish from a good ole western, California/Oregon/Washington school.
Just out here in California we do have a pecking order:
At the bottom we have the California community colleges. They are often feeders to 4 year schools.
The next level up is the California State Universities which top out at master's degrees.
The next level yet are the University of California schools and some good private universities like Pepperdine, Santa Clara, and USC who have, for instance, accredited law schools, well connected MBA schools, or a solid dental school.
At the very top we have Stanford and Cal Tech, which is California's stab at the Ivy League, namely Harvard and MIT (but with the Pacific Ocean nearby)
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UNC Wilmington
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Things could also be regional. Being from California, I do know that Wake Forest is better than Cal Poly, but I didn't know how good they were. If I were to give Cal Poly three stars, I wouldn't know if Wake Forest was four stars of five stars.
Just doing a wiki on it shows out of 2,000 accredited colleges and universities, Wake Forest scored the 11th best undergraduate teaching in the country for national universities (which includes the likes of Harvard, Yale, and Columbia). That's extremely impressive, especially due to all the accredited institutions they are up against. So Wake Forest, as I only found out today, is a five star institution.
Cal Poly scores highly as a regional Western university, which means as a non-research/non-PhD institution, they are recognized in the western states.
Even though I finished up my bachelor's degree at a national university, but it was 4th tier out of 4 tiers. For what it's worth, I think a top tier western, eastern, northern, or southern regional university is pretty much the same thing as a third or fourth tier national university if we are talking about undergraduate education and the doors it can open nationwide.
There are some third and fourth tier national institutions, many of which I never heard of, which while probably great and full of PhD programs and law schools/medical schools, are just not names I can distinguish from a good ole western, California/Oregon/Washington school.
Just out here in California we do have a pecking order:
At the bottom we have the California community colleges. They are often feeders to 4 year schools.
The next level up is the California State Universities which top out at master's degrees.
The next level yet are the University of California schools and some good private universities like Pepperdine, Santa Clara, and USC who have, for instance, accredited law schools, well connected MBA schools, or a solid dental school.
At the very top we have Stanford and Cal Tech, which is California's stab at the Ivy League, namely Harvard and MIT (but with the Pacific Ocean nearby)
on a national level UC Berk is considered cream of the crop, often referred to as a public Ivy along the likes of UMich, UVirginia, UWisco, UTAustin etc.
I agree.
I would basically call most (if not all) the Universities of California cream of the crop as far as a great college education goes.
In some surveys, the University of California Berkeley is rated the top public college, but at other times it's Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Virginia as I have seen over the years. I would say all those schools are comparable and top notch, and couldn't really imagine any Ivy League school or a Stanford or MIT to be that much better (even though the likes of Harvard, MIT, Yale, and Stanford have all been rated as America's best college where as public ones like Virginia, Texas, Michigan, or Cal Berkeley have not).
I think there is a certain level of snobbery which will always rate a high end private college higher than a high end public one, regardless of quality.
People who I know who have been to both Cal Berkeley and Stanford, or Cal Berkeley and a top flight eastern private Ivy (or UCLA and Stanford, or UCLA and an Ivy) pretty much considered Cal Berkeley or UCLA to be in the same class. It's the general public who will always be much more impressed with Stanford and Harvard than a Berkeley or UCLA.
In the end, it's what the student gets from the college and like one poster mentioned, there's more material in any four year program than any student can fully master.
If I had a child who wanted to get a top MBA from an eastern Ivy school, I would send them to a relatively inexpensive University of California school for their undergrad getting out with minimal debt, have them kill the GMAT, and then spend the big money on an Ivy or a Stanford for two years of MBA school. If you have said Ivy MBA, nobody will care where your undergrad was or if it was public or private. Same goes for law, medical or dental school.
Plenty of great dentists in California went to USC, but that doesn't necessarily mean that dentist had to pony up the big bucks and graduate with their bachelor's degree from USC.
I agree.
I would basically call most (if not all) the Universities of California cream of the crop as far as a great college education goes.
In some surveys, the University of California Berkeley is rated the top public college, but at other times it's Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Virginia as I have seen over the years. I would say all those schools are comparable and top notch, and couldn't really imagine any Ivy League school or a Stanford or MIT to be that much better (even though the likes of Harvard, MIT, Yale, and Stanford have all been rated as America's best college where as public ones like Virginia, Texas, Michigan, or Cal Berkeley have not).
I think there is a certain level of snobbery which will always rate a high end private college higher than a high end public one, regardless of quality.
People who I know who have been to both Cal Berkeley and Stanford, or Cal Berkeley and a top flight eastern private Ivy (or UCLA and Stanford, or UCLA and an Ivy) pretty much considered Cal Berkeley or UCLA to be in the same class. It's the general public who will always be much more impressed with Stanford and Harvard than a Berkeley or Michigan.
In the end, it's what the student gets from the college and like one poster mentioned, there's more material in any four year program than any student can fully master.
If I had a child who wanted to get a top MBA from an eastern Ivy school, I would send them to a relatively inexpensive University of California school for their undergrad getting out with minimal debt, have them kill the GMAT, and then spend the big money on an Ivy or a Stanford for two years of MBA school. If you have said Ivy MBA, nobody will care where your undergrad was or if it was public or private. Same goes for law, medical or dental school.
Plenty of great dentists in California went to USC, but that doesn't necessarily mean that dentist had to pony up the big bucks and graduate with their bachelor's degree from USC.
well said...
Exactly. As pointed out the name of the school you go to matters very little in the end. Ivy league compared to *blank* state school. The pay difference will never make up the cost difference.
The most important thing is Degree, GPA and then very far down on the list School.
For example take UT, Texas Tech, University of Houston, A&M and Rice and lets look at their engineering programs and people come out of them.
As far as prestige goes Rice I would put on top. UofH I would put on the bottom of the list of those 5 schools. As far as average pay for the engineers comes out of each of the programs I can promise you they will all be about the the same.
I could put in UT Dallas in that list which I would put below U of H by a far margin in prestige. But I do not know if they offer all the engineers programs but of lets say EE the average pay come out of UT Dallas would be. OMG the same as the other 5 much more predigest.
All a school MIGHT and I mean MIGHT help you do is give you some extra network and bragging rights. Out side of that it does not matter. The degree matters the most, followed by GPA. Then WAY WAY down on the list is school name.
As some food for thought. How many of you know where your Doctor went to medical school, or you density went to school or any of those people. I am willing to bet most do not. I sure as hell do not nor do I give a damn. What I do care about is how good a job they do and the recommendation patients give and low and be hold that is what matters. Not were they go the degree from. Of all the doctors and density who have work on me I know of were my od my eye doctor. Both of which I only found long time after I was a patient. She went to more of a no name school only the locals really know about yet she is highly recommended by people around here.
I don't think any school is big enough, rich enough, diverse enough, brainy enough, or athletic enough to fill everyone's needs and differences.
OK, OK, I concede. There is one school that ultra fab, and it has to be Texas.
... but they have to change their school colors to something more pleasing.OK, OK, I concede. There is one school that ultra fab, and it has to be Texas.
What can I say? You have fantastic taste!
But while it was the right school for me, maybe it's not the right place for the next guy/gal. Fortunately my wife looks *great* in burnt orange!