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Moral of this story: Crowd funding is all about patience and risk. If you want something right now, order from an established company. Get tracking number. Live life to the fullest.

As scjr is repeating it over and over again that people here are so impatient, I re-read the entire thread again, to try to get another perspective or better understand his view.

Well, I found actually only 3 answers complaining that the Cinder has not been shipped yet - if you want consider that impatient. But all the other answers always refer to Cupert's / Cinder's bad communication (messed up emails and missing updates).

And please don't tell me that is normal in crowdfunding. I think a lot of people would be fine if Cupert would once reply or make an update on time. It is not hard to write 2 lines stating that there are problems and they are fixing what they can.

In marketing communication is key. That is what they are doing wrong.

Crowdfunding is a two way street. Backers invest and the company should at least respond if they are not meeting the goals they set. I did not say make a miracle happen and deliver yesterday. I say: COMMUNICATE.

And my advice is, if you want a bad reputation, damage your brand and not build trust with your (future) customers, do not communicate and be rude.
 
And please don't tell me that is normal in crowdfunding.

It's very normal. Google it. I've posted links to the pitfalls.

I really can't understand why you won't ask for a refund? You obviously are not happy. Even charis1113 had his boiling point and asked for a refund.

I really do hope it works out for you, but I can't help but think stressing over a piece of glass is not worth the aggravation.
 
So, you say bad communication is normal in crowdfunding? This is not my experience with e.g., kickstarter and companies which are still in the market and care about their customers.

I am not happy with the communication. That does not have to do with the product, nor waiting time. I am fine with waiting another month. But no communication leaves everything in the dark.

I can be happy with my Mercedes but unhappy with the service. It does not mean that I will give back my car, but I will not recommend it, expecially if the service stays that way. I would even buy a Mercedes again if nothing else meets my needs. But if there is something similiar to a Mercedes I will be more likely to switch.
 
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At least they're offering refunds. :D

I appears the CINDER representative snapped. While it's definitely not good service, he's right that some folks don't understand how crowd funding functions. Many crowd funding projects do not offer refunds.

Moral of this story: Crowd funding is all about patience and risk. If you want something right now, order from an established company. Get tracking number. Live life to the fullest.

Of course, this has been mentioned by others in the thread and ignored. $30 bucks isn't worth the aggravation, but I guess it's something to do when you're bored. Carry on. :)

I think the main problem people have is not the delay, it is the slow if at all updates.
 
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Wow, what a horrible response from the rep. But yes, at least they are offering refunds!

While I am not happy with how things are going with CINDER, I knew what I was getting into when I backed their product. I can't help but think though that scjr has a little more patience and is more forgiving than the rest of us because of the free sample. Either that or you're just a super patient man :p
 
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I think the main problem people have is not the delay, it is the slow if at all updates.
Agreed Will, but...

There's a trash heap a mile long with crowd funding issues, complaints and disappearances. It's the nature of the beast. http://gizmodo.com/what-crowdfunded-project-has-screwed-you-over-the-harde-1626917711

I want great service as well and excellent communication. I understand their frustration, but they basically invested in a startup and startup companies equal risks, delays, poor communication, etc. If you go into crowd funding with that mindset, you're better off. If you can't handle that, Best Buy is a better option.

Backers Beware: Crowdfunding Risks and Rewards

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terrell-mcsweeny/crowdfunding-know-the-ris_b_7564466.html
 
Wow, what a horrible response from the rep. But yes, at least they are offering refunds!

While I am not happy with how things are going with CINDER, I knew what I was getting into when I backed their product. I can't help but think though that scjr has a little more patience and is more forgiving than the rest of us because of the free sample. Either that or you're just a super patient man :p

Sample already removed awhile ago, because I enjoy swapping cases.

I've lost on projects before. It is, what it is. But yes, I'm a patient dude. Maybe too patient. :p
 
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Wow, what a horrible response from the rep. But yes, at least they are offering refunds!

While I am not happy with how things are going with CINDER, I knew what I was getting into when I backed their product. I can't help but think though that scjr has a little more patience and is more forgiving than the rest of us because of the free sample. Either that or you're just a super patient man :p

Yesterday i wrote them an email to confirm my refund. And they replied me so quick. But i didn't get the refund yet.....haha
 
Got this email today...

The ‘CINDER: iPhone 6 Curved 9H Gorilla Glass Protector’ team just posted:

1 new Announcement:

To all our valued backers,

Great news from here: all your packages are ready to ship.

For logistical reasons, they will be shipped in 2 batches.
All our US customers will be sent their packages in the first batch.
We have received all the US customers’ tracking numbers and today we will verify that all the contents have been correctly allocated, making final checks of all packages.

When this has been completed, they will be shipped. At this point, we will send an email to all US customers with their tracking number and any relevant tracking information.

With regard to the Rest of the World, who constitute our second batch, we will receive tracking numbers for these customers today. Following their verification, these packages will also be shipped. We will also send an email with the tracking number to our Rest of the World customers as soon as the shipment begins. All the necessary tracking information will be in this email.

...

Coming Soon?
 
Got this email today...

The ‘CINDER: iPhone 6 Curved 9H Gorilla Glass Protector’ team just posted:

1 new Announcement:

To all our valued backers,

Great news from here: all your packages are ready to ship.

For logistical reasons, they will be shipped in 2 batches.
All our US customers will be sent their packages in the first batch.
We have received all the US customers’ tracking numbers and today we will verify that all the contents have been correctly allocated, making final checks of all packages.

When this has been completed, they will be shipped. At this point, we will send an email to all US customers with their tracking number and any relevant tracking information.

With regard to the Rest of the World, who constitute our second batch, we will receive tracking numbers for these customers today. Following their verification, these packages will also be shipped. We will also send an email with the tracking number to our Rest of the World customers as soon as the shipment begins. All the necessary tracking information will be in this email.

...

Coming Soon?

Lets see....Because they didn't ship it yet.....
 
It would be nice if somebody would make a comment when he receives a shipping number.
 
I just got my shipping confirmation:

This is a no-reply email.
All questions shall be sent to sales@cupert.com



Dear backer,

Here is your tracking number for your CINDER order:
LSxxxxxxxxxCN

You can follow your shipment here:http://www.ems.com.cn/english.html

Please notice it can take up to 48 hours before your order is registered in the system.

Kind Regards

Team Cupert Technology
 
I ordered 2 super early birds (1 black, one white for my wife) but only received one shipping confirmation.

We shall see what happens.
 
I have tracking info as well. May take 48 hrs to see the tracking though. Coming from the Chinese postal service?
 
Are you from the US?
By now they already shipped everything, so I guess that it would be really complicated.
But hey, if you really don't want it anymore for whatever reason, I am pretty sure you will be selling it easily.

Just look on their FB page how many people already asked when they could buy it. Just contact those people and you will sell it faster than ever.
 
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