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The single tour Hermès strap is surprisingly thin. I can mark it, a noticeable mark appears, by sliding the end of the strap after buckling it and inserting it under the keeper. The pointy end of the strap leaves a mark on the buckle side of the strap. Rubbing it makes it disappear, but I panicked on the second day when I noticed this. I guess it's the wax being disturbed. I would call that delicate.

Here's two pics. I just ever so lightly ran my nail over the strap. No pressure whatsoever. Then I rubbed it out with my thumb in the second pic, no doubt rubbing in some dirt too. Hermès recommends nothing but a dry cotton cloth to clean their straps. These straps are beautifully handmade, and as delicate as Paris Hilton walking down Rodeo Drive carrying a Birkin bag.View attachment 601144 View attachment 601145
Wow yeah it does seem delicate. My thing is I have been so disappointed in the bands so far for the price. The Apple leather band is fine by for $150 I expect better than the $30 Moto 360 band. The link bracelet looks so cool, but mine is scratched pretty good, and I am super careful. It's heavy, but it does not feel like $450 of band. The leather loop feels the best of any. I just feel like I should be blow away, and the Hermès is priced something like $550. I don't see there is anyway there's $550 of band there. I know there is a name there, but I am pretty jaded by these crazy priced bands. Maybe it's $550 worth of a band, but I just don't trust it.
 
It's funny how people are saying this stuff now. I was saying this from the beginning.

Actually, plenty of members have been saying how the lack of complications on other faces such as Photo, Motion, Astronomy, etc. defeats the usefulness of those faces and wish Apple would incorporate them.

Perhaps AW Hermes owners are more forgiving in overlooking their absence for the sake of having a more elegant watch face, but it doesn't change the situation.
 
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Actually, plenty of members have been saying how the lack of complications on other faces such as Photo, Motion, Astronomy, etc. defeats the usefulness of those faces and wish Apple would incorporate them.

Perhaps AW Hermes owners are more forgiving in overlooking their absence for the sake of having a more elegant watch face, but it doesn't change the situation.

Although I wouldn't be upset if Apple added four "invisible" complications to the corners of the Hermès faces, it's not really an issue for me. Glances serves it's named purpose very well.
 
Wow yeah it does seem delicate. My thing is I have been so disappointed in the bands so far for the price. The Apple leather band is fine by for $150 I expect better than the $30 Moto 360 band. The link bracelet looks so cool, but mine is scratched pretty good, and I am super careful. It's heavy, but it does not feel like $450 of band. The leather loop feels the best of any. I just feel like I should be blow away, and the Hermès is priced something like $550. I don't see there is anyway there's $550 of band there. I know there is a name there, but I am pretty jaded by these crazy priced bands. Maybe it's $550 worth of a band, but I just don't trust it.

Buy some Luvvitt adapters (recommended), and get a cool strap. Peruse the WUS forums for ideas. Get the JETech bracelet. :)
 
It's funny how people are saying this stuff now. I was saying this from the beginning. Now I have never held a Hermès band, but are they really as special as the price?
It isn't as if you are precluded from using the other watch faces. But you get a classier option not available on the other watches.

Luxury goods are never "worth" the price in functionality alone. The Hermès band is handmade in France while the other bands are machine-made. That alone adds to the appeal for some. Hermès is at the top of its game for leather goods. Hermès handbags go deep into the 5 figures and have months-long waiting lists. The leather is very supple and well-made. There is no comparison at all to the Classic Band or the $100 knock-off bands that have appeared online.
Wow yeah it does seem delicate. My thing is I have been so disappointed in the bands so far for the price. The Apple leather band is fine by for $150 I expect better than the $30 Moto 360 band.

First of all, delicate doesn't mean low-quality. A Ming vase is more delicate than a $9 plexiglass vase from Target.

The Hermès band in question is made from leather produced using traditional methods. It is supposed to scratch and develop a patina over time since it isn't coated to resist absorbing oil.
 
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It isn't as if you are precluded from using the other watch faces. But you get a classier option not available on the other watches.

Luxury goods are never "worth" the price in functionality alone. The Hermès band is handmade in France while the other bands are machine-made. That alone adds to the appeal for some. Hermès is at the top of its game for leather goods. Hermès handbags go deep into the 5 figures and have months-long waiting lists. The leather is very supple and well-made. There is no comparison at all to the Classic Band or the $100 knock-off bands that have appeared online.
Yeah I am sure it far passes the Apple leather band. There are though some handmade leather bands from some company called Pad and Quill that look really nice. They are about $100. Again I am sure the Hermès is great, but it really seems your paying for the name. I know the same can be said for Apple, but they really do offer great hardware. Not many others compare. In terms of watch bands though. Man they have left a lot to be desired.
 
Yeah I am sure it far passes the Apple leather band. There are though some handmade leather bands from some company called Pad and Quill that look really nice. They are about $100. Again I am sure the Hermès is great, but it really seems your paying for the name. I know the same can be said for Apple, but they really do offer great hardware. Not many others compare. In terms of watch bands though. Man they have left a lot to be desired.

There is a high markup in jewelry, to be sure. The Pad and Quill bands are mass-produced. While they may be nice when viewed in a vacuum, someone buying an Apple Watch Hermès wouldn't think about buying a Pad and Quill band instead.
 
There is a high markup in jewelry, to be sure. The Pad and Quill bands are mass-produced. While they may be nice when viewed in a vacuum, someone buying an Apple Watch Hermès wouldn't think about buying a Pad and Quill band instead.
How many Hermès bands are made each year? Are they limited production on all bands and watches? See I don't know enough about Hermès to care. I would love to have a band, but I am not buying another AW just for the band, so I would love to find a Hermès band to see what they are all about. I could get something else though and be just as happy.
 
It's funny how people are saying this stuff now. I was saying this from the beginning. Now I have never held a Hermès band, but are they really as special as the price?

Well, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. If you are into quality leather, then yes, you'd be blown away by the quality of Hermes leather. If you aren't interested in leather, you'd probably be like meh, what's the point?
 
Well, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. If you are into quality leather, then yes, you'd be blown away by the quality of Hermes leather. If you aren't interested in leather, you'd probably be like meh, what's the point?
Yeah I guess. I love leather and how it feels, but I am not really any kind of expert. I guess having to buy entirely new watch to get a Hermès band has frustrated me to the point of question the band at all. Is it really worth all the fuss? I guess to some yes, but when there are other options with much easier ways to buy. It just seems to make sense to go another direction.
 
Yeah I guess. I love leather and how it feels, but I am not really any kind of expert. I guess having to buy entirely new watch to get a Hermès band has frustrated me to the point of question the band at all. Is it really worth all the fuss? I guess to some yes, but when there are other options with much easier ways to buy. It just seems to make sense to go another direction.

I, too, am frustrated that we can't buy the band by itself. However, when we went to see the watch at Hermes, I took the opportunity to look around their store, and they had this horse saddle on display, which was just the most gorgeous leather I've ever seen. It was like, wow, this saddle would probably be softer than the horse you put it on, :D

And yeah, the Hermes watch band feels overpriced, and the fuss to get it feels not quite worth it, but I also feel that no $100-$200 leather band is ever going to match the Hermes band in quality. It's like if you want the high quality stuff, you have to pay for it -- there's just no getting around it.
 
I'm trying to take my old school preferences into the future with me. The Hermès AW does that for me. The Oyster bracelet is a classic Rolex design, and goes back almost 70 years. I've always liked them. I think it's a great combo. Changing the bracelet alters the watch? I certainly don't remember every coming across a discussion of this sort, not even on WUS, home of many watch snobs. I know, Apple makes the watch. This is tiring me out...

The Hermès name, while I am less inclined to turn up my nose now, was never part of the appeal. My grandfather the coal miner, and my father the cop, would not be impressed. I'd buy any of the people at a Hermès workbench a drink, but I doubt we'd be in a place frequented by typical Hermès' customers.

That's an interesting perspective, thanks for taking the time to write it out.

Me, I never cared much for what a watch looked like as long as it told time, and wasn't ugly to look at, so the watch face doesn't interest me. And I hadn't really paid much notice to Hermes either, before they came out with the Apple Watch. I'd heard of them, of course, but I'd never been interested enough to take a look at their merchandise. But I do like quality leather, so when I heard that Hermes was making these Apple watches with leather bands, I though I'd go check it out, since I live in Manhattan and the Hermes store isn't far from where I work. And once I tried them on, I'm in love. It's just the most comfortable watch band I've ever worn, and quite pretty to look at, though to me the pretty is a bonus, not the main draw.

If they do make a second gen Hermes Apple Watch, I'm definitely getting one!
 
I, too, am frustrated that we can't buy the band by itself. However, when we went to see the watch at Hermes, I took the opportunity to look around their store, and they had this horse saddle on display, which was just the most gorgeous leather I've ever seen. It was like, wow, this saddle would probably be softer than the horse you put it on, :D

And yeah, the Hermes watch band feels overpriced, and the fuss to get it feels not quite worth it, but I also feel that no $100-$200 leather band is ever going to match the Hermes band in quality. It's like if you want the high quality stuff, you have to pay for it -- there's just no getting around it.
Yeah you are right. If you want the best, you have to pay the high price. I don't mine a premium price, but this watch cost you a whole another watch. I guess this helps keep it more "exclusive". I just wish Apple and Hermès would have come out with this from the beginning. I am an early adopter, but I would have most likely gone for this watch at the time. I don't know, maybe when I decide to get another AW there will be another Hermès to buy.
 
Me, I never cared much for what a watch looked like as long as it told time, and wasn't ugly to look at, so the watch face doesn't interest me.

I can only hope this just applies to watches. You are not a watch guy, of that I am now certain. Thank you for your description of your trip to the Hermès store. It reminded me of Holly Golightly at Tiffany's.
 
I can only hope this just applies to watches.

Well, I'm more a comfort over looks kind of gal. Not that I don't like nice-looking clothes and accessories, but they have to be comfortable to wear and use. I wouldn't wear high-heel shoes, for instance. The reason I loved the Hermes band is, as I said, they are the most comfortable band I've ever worn. Especially the double tour. When I saw pictures of it, I was like, what is this, why would anyone want that thing looped around your arm like that, it looks stupid. But when I tried it on, it was sooooo comfortable. And it did look more elegant when seen in person rather than in pictures. But at that point, I wouldn't have cared if it still looked silly, it is so comfortable I don't care how it looks.
 
So for a smart watch, the AW Hermès is where it's at for me. The strap is nice, and I have no desire to get another one, but for me it is not what makes the watch. Without comparing it to mechanical watches (I just don't have that discussion anymore) let's not forget that the faces; Cape Cod, Espace, and Clipper, are all from Hermès mechanical watches. They are more into watchmaking than some of you may be aware of, in house movements and all.

The Hermes faces are the most skeuomorphic that Apple offers since they replicate real world analogues of Hermes mechanical watches.

Clearly Apple held back watch face options for the Hermes deal which was made before the Watch was even introduced. Which is a shame that the rest of us can't have that kind customization without the Hermes premium. But a digital Hermes face on a Hermes branded Watch doesn't make it Hermes, any more than putting that face on any other watch in Apple's collection. I can see where Hermes wouldn't want to sell their faces in the Apple Store, but your particular interest in analogue watch faces definitely raises questions about where Apple may be headed with this, and whether any other brands will even be interested in offering trademark watch faces for Apple's watch without similar co-branding deals.
 
The Hermes faces are the most skeuomorphic that Apple offers since they replicate real world analogues of Hermes mechanical watches.

Clearly Apple held back watch face options for the Hermes deal which was made before the Watch was even introduced. Which is a shame that the rest of us can't have that kind customization without the Hermes premium. But a digital Hermes face on a Hermes branded Watch doesn't make it Hermes, any more than putting that face on any other watch in Apple's collection. I can see where Hermes wouldn't want to sell their faces in the Apple Store, but your particular interest in analogue watch faces definitely raises questions about where Apple may be headed with this, and whether any other brands will even be interested in offering trademark watch faces for Apple's watch without similar co-branding deals.

I'm no design expert but that word gets tossed around a lot and I guess an analog face is always going to fit the definition. But the Apple analog faces all seem rather 2-dimensional to me. No silly drop shadows or other 3-d effects. Except Mickey of course. Give me the skeuomorphic sweep second hand any day. It is smoother than any mechanical watch (as they just give the illusion of not tickiing; they actually tick many times per second). Seiko's Spring Drive is continuous, and many thousands of dollars.

By the way the hands on every Apple analog face, except Mickey's once again, were previously used by, if not designed by Hermès. You'll notice the hands of the Hermès and the Apple Chronograph face are identical, and the others are just solid instead of hollow. The hands on the Hermès Cape Cod watch:

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I've read that the collaboration began before the Apple Watch was even introduced. I found the following picture online after the Hermès was introduced. This is the Hermès Carre H watch, designed by French architect Marc Berthier in 2010. Remind you of anything? I found nothing linking the two, but it sure strikes me as rather uncanny.

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I started threads on reddit and posted on Engadget ranting about the Hermès face when it came out. I've mentioned it here in earlier posts too I think. But Apple succeeded in up-selling me. Not because of the Hermès name, not because of a nice delicate handmade strap, but because I just wanted a simple clean analog face that uses the entire display. It's pretty to look at imo. It's still a smart watch, too bright and embarrassing sometimes (I sent feedback asking for a hardware button Theater Mode like Android Wear), but I like it. I've spent more on used Swiss watches.

I know it's still an Apple Watch and I'm glad it is. I bought my first used Apple Mac in 1990 and I'm typing on one now. I'm glad they exist; they make cool stuff. I still might throw it all away and start a modern Luddite movement and move to Montana (I happen to be there now).

Hermès was the perfect collaboration in a way because although they do make watches, they are not highly regarded in the mechanical watch world. I guess their name carries a lot of weight in the fashion world though. And they were a perfect match for the strap (although I haven't removed my JETech bracelet yet).

I won't speculate about future collaborations. I have no idea and don't really care. I can't see watchmakers like Rolex or Omega doing it. I would think they would rather struggle on, even go down with the ship first, if that is in the cards.

I'll end this with a thought that just occurred to me. The first automobiles were called horseless carriages. But that didn't last too long. They quickly took on a name and a life of their own.
 
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Well, I'm more a comfort over looks kind of gal. Not that I don't like nice-looking clothes and accessories, but they have to be comfortable to wear and use. I wouldn't wear high-heel shoes, for instance. The reason I loved the Hermes band is, as I said, they are the most comfortable band I've ever worn. Especially the double tour. When I saw pictures of it, I was like, what is this, why would anyone want that thing looped around your arm like that, it looks stupid. But when I tried it on, it was sooooo comfortable. And it did look more elegant when seen in person rather than in pictures. But at that point, I wouldn't have cared if it still looked silly, it is so comfortable I don't care how it looks.


My waitress in Arkansas showed me her ankle monitor. I found it oddly attractive. I'm sure the double tour will look great on you. The beautiful models don't hurt, but I find it very attractive and fashionable. I want you to start saying it in French; Doobla. I think you should get it soon, and post pics.

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it's about the Cape Cod watch face - milanese band combo :)

Go to Apple Store to try one out on your Watch. OR you can even buy one and see how you like it for 2 weeks.
[doublepost=1455115769][/doublepost]And yes, if ANYONE here who owns one and want to sell their Hermes watch, then PM me !! :)
 
Go to Apple Store to try one out on your Watch. OR you can even buy one and see how you like it for 2 weeks.
[doublepost=1455115769][/doublepost]And yes, if ANYONE here who owns one and want to sell their Hermes watch, then PM me !! :)

Go to Apple Store to buy one :D
 
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