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Huh. That's odd. Is that the only model that's not available? Wonder why. Seems like it would be the most popular model.

Popular = all gone by the time on-line came on. :( I think that there is limited availability. You can check Apple Store. 42 & 38 single tour Barenia are gone for sure. Only BLACK/NOIR single tour available.
 
Popular = all gone by the time on-line came on. :( I think that there is limited availability. You can check Apple Store. 42 & 38 single tour Barenia are gone for sure. Only BLACK/NOIR single tour available.

I just checked the Apple Store. The 38 single tour fauve barenia ships tomorrow in Hong Kong. It's not unavailable like the 42.
 
I'm sure it has been said before, but I cannot comprehend why anybody is spending money on this thing. It is clearly a marketing gimmick, like the Edition, in an attempt to position Apple's Watch as a luxury brand.

I'm not opposed to buying nice things for a premium. I have an SS myself. But how can you possibly justify spending, £1050 on a Hermes version when you can get a very similar leather strapped one on the same Apple store for £599? It's not that much nicer. And that's before you look at cheap Chinese replicas. It won't even be long before you can download a custom face that looks the same or better.

My advice? Ignore all this high end fashion garbage and wait until the price of the regular watches gets cut by £150 to where they should be as a very nice consumer electronic device.

Here endeth the rant.
 
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I'm sure it has been said before, but I cannot comprehend why anybody is spending money on this thing. It is clearly a marketing gimmick, like the Edition, in an attempt to position Apple's Watch as a luxury brand.

I'm not opposed to buying nice things for a premium. I have a SS myself. But how can you possibly justify spending, £1050 on a Hermes version when you can get a very similar leather strapped one on the same Apple store for £599? It's not that much nicer. And that's before you look at cheap Chinese replicas. It won't even be long before you can download a custom face that looks the same or better.

My advice? Ignore all this high end fashion garbage and wait until the price of the regular watches gets cut by £150 to were they should be as a very nice consumer electronic device.

Here endeth the rant.

Wow.

Shouldn't you be down at your local Waitrose telling people they should be going to Aldi instead?
 
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It's more like doing your weekly shop at Fortnum and Mason.

If I remember right the price difference is much bigger back home in the uk than in other places.

Blame VAT and also the 2 year included warranty (and the implications on Apple under "consumer protection" legislation) that Apple likes to add on costs for within the marked up price.
 
If I remember right the price difference is much bigger back home in the uk than in other places.

Blame VAT and also the 2 year included warranty (and the implications on Apple under "consumer protection" legislation) that Apple likes to add on costs for within the marked up price.

Nonsense. It's all Apple's markup. The warranty liabilities for this versus the SS with leather strap will be very similar. IT'S THE SAME WATCH.
 
1 year vs 2 years. That's not "very similar".

In UK consumer law, any product has to last a "reasonable amount of time" I would say that if you are buying a £600 watch, any reasonable person would expect it to last more than 2 years. A £1000 watch even longer.

Offering 2 years costs them nothing, they would have to replace them if they failed in that timeframe. Which is incredibly unlikely anyway.

Besides, at only £600 a go you could nearly buy 2, just in case.
 
In UK consumer law, any product has to last a "reasonable amount of time" I would say that if you are buying a £600 watch, any reasonable person would expect it to last more than 2 years. A £1000 watch even longer.

Offering 2 years costs them nothing, they would have to replace them if they failed in that timeframe. Which is incredibly unlikely anyway.

Besides, at only £600 a go you could nearly buy 2, just in case.

There's also the included phone support from the kinds of people who wouldn't even know macrumors existed.

Also, the markup is more in the uk than other countries (75% vs 69% in Hong Kong on the 42mm models you listed). Hermès only provide a warranty for the band (generally regarded as an accessory and not covered under any warranty anywhere in the watch world) where legally required so perhaps their cut is also slightly larger in the uk to account for this.

Of course this is all conjecture.

I personally don't think the single tour is particularly attractive at the price point. It's too simple and doesn't look unique enough as you point out.

The cuff and double tours offer something more in my opinion.

That said, I disagree with you telling people they're wrong for spending their money in this way.


I heard Oprah BOUGHT her edition, she didn't even get it free from Apple. You should go to America and shout her down for it.
 
I have SS 42 with Classic Buckle. If you were to buy it new, then it costs $750.

Hermes Single Tour 42 costs $1150.

Difference of $400.

Is $400 worth it? YES! You get literally the BEST damn leather watch band on the planet Earth, bar none. There is no comparison with any other band. The calf leather is meant to last a lifetime with care and handmade to the very last detail. Then you add in a beautiful face. One extra year of warranty, which means that you got Apple Care+ for free ($79 value) compared to SS. (Difference thus is really $320.)

Sure, you pay for the name Hermes too...but is that bad? Hermes is THE elite leather maker in the world.

Why buy a Lexus when you can buy a Toyota for cheaper? Why buy Porsche Cayenne when you can buy VW Touareg? Why buy Escalade when you can buy GMC Yukon?
 
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I have SS 42 with Classic Buckle. If you were to buy it new, then it costs $750.

Hermes Single Tour 42 costs $1150.

Difference of $400.

Is $400 worth it? YES! You get literally the BEST damn leather watch band on the planet Earth, bar none. There is no comparison with any other band. The calf leather is meant to last a lifetime with care and handmade to the very last detail. Then you add in a beautiful face. One extra year of warranty, which means that you got Apple Care+ for free ($79 value) compared to SS. (Difference thus is really $320.)

Sure, you pay for the name Hermes too...but is that bad? Hermes is THE elite leather maker in the world.

Why buy a Lexus when you can buy a Toyota for cheaper? Why buy Porsche Cayenne when you can buy VW Touareg? Why buy Escalade when you can buy GMC Yukon?

Are you in the US.

The difference is much less for some reason (only 50% markup).

However you're wrong to say you get AppleCare+ for free. There's no included accidental damage cover.
 
Are you in the US.

The difference is much less for some reason (only 50% markup).

However you're wrong to say you get AppleCare+ for free. There's no included accidental damage cover.

Yes. I cannot speak for other countries. But US prices are far from being as ridiculous as some on here claim.
 
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I have SS 42 with Classic Buckle. If you were to buy it new, then it costs $750.

Hermes Single Tour 42 costs $1150.

Difference of $400.

Is $400 worth it? YES! You get literally the BEST damn leather watch band on the planet Earth, bar none. There is no comparison with any other band. The calf leather is meant to last a lifetime with care and handmade to the very last detail. Then you add in a beautiful face. One extra year of warranty, which means that you got Apple Care+ for free ($79 value) compared to SS. (Difference thus is really $320.)

Sure, you pay for the name Hermes too...but is that bad? Hermes is THE elite leather maker in the world.

Why buy a Lexus when you can buy a Toyota for cheaper? Why buy Porsche Cayenne when you can buy VW Touareg? Why buy Escalade when you can buy GMC Yukon?

Don't forget the $149 for the Classic Buckle that's included. So in effect you are paying $549 for a 6" strap of leather. If that's your game, then you can buy the finest hand-crafted, custom-made straps in the hide of your choice for much less than that.

Oh and a new face! Everyone is bored with the choice of stock ones (see other thread), how bored will you be of the Hermes one?

As for your car analogy, at least the Porsche will be worth something in 5 years time.

Anyway, whatever, crack on, it's only money.
 
Don't forget the $149 for the Classic Buckle that's included. So in effect you are paying $549 for a 6" strap of leather. If that's your game, then you can buy the finest hand-crafted, custom-made straps in the hide of your choice for much less than that.

Oh and a new face! Everyone is bored with the choice of stock ones (see other thread), how bored will you be of the Hermes one?

As for your car analogy, at least the Porsche will be worth something in 5 years time.

Anyway, whatever, crack on, it's only money.

Aren't we talking about the whole package?

That face cannot bore you! It is beautiful. YMMV.

Porsche be worth something in 5 yrs? How much will it depreciate vs. VW?

Want to compare depreciate rate b/w Porsche and AW Hermes?

Your argument is like Sport AW owners claiming why buy SS.

Why would you think AW Hermes 1st gen will stop working in 5 yrs? How is that different from other AW?
 
Don't forget the $149 for the Classic Buckle that's included. So in effect you are paying $549 for a 6" strap of leather. If that's your game, then you can buy the finest hand-crafted, custom-made straps in the hide of your choice for much less than that.

I have yet to see any hand-crafted, custom made straps the same quality as Hermes. They all look much thicker than the Hermes straps, and while I haven't handled any of these hand made straps in person, I doubt they'll match the supple feel of Hermes leather.

I did go around to several watch stores, looking at leather bands, and none matches the Hermes.

Is $500+ a lot to pay for a watch band? Yes. But can you get Hermes quality bands for less? I doubt it.
 
Don't forget the $149 for the Classic Buckle that's included. So in effect you are paying $549 for a 6" strap of leather. If that's your game, then you can buy the finest hand-crafted, custom-made straps in the hide of your choice for much less than that.

Oh and a new face! Everyone is bored with the choice of stock ones (see other thread), how bored will you be of the Hermes one?

As for your car analogy, at least the Porsche will be worth something in 5 years time.

Anyway, whatever, crack on, it's only money.

And yeah, you NEED to read up on Hermes leather. Google it. LV? Gucci? All way below Hermes in quality and construction.
 
Lets leave the car analogy, I'll only embarrass you and anyway you are missing the point.

I pay premiums for quality and even brand on occasion. The SS v Sport is stainless steel v aluminium, sapphire v glass and strap choice vs plastic. It is demonstrably of better quality and you pay a $200 premium which I clearly understand is not down to the incremental cost of the materials.

The difference between the SS and the Hermes is $400 for the quality of the leather. I mean, really?
 
Lets leave the car analogy, I'll only embarrass you and anyway you are missing the point.

The difference between the SS and the Hermes is $400 for the quality of the leather. I mean, really?

LOL...lets keep the assumption low dude. Cars is my love.

$400 for quality of leather? Why not? Remember, i do NOT own Hermes, but i can appreciate quality.

Again, i encourage you to read up on Hermes leather before jumping to conclusion. You are equating Hermes to any other leather is both funny and embarrassing.
 
Lets leave the car analogy, I'll only embarrass you and anyway you are missing the point.

I pay premiums for quality and even brand on occasion. The SS v Sport is stainless steel v aluminium, sapphire v glass and strap choice vs plastic. It is demonstrably of better quality and you pay a $200 premium which I clearly understand is not down to the incremental cost of the materials.

The difference between the SS and the Hermes is $400 for the quality of the leather. I mean, really?

The Fat Duck vs Wetherspoons. You pay 10x as much for the quality of the food. I mean really?

You do get a neat orange box included for the money.
 
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