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On the road when I charge it’s usually 79p a kWh minimum. I think 89p is the worse I’ve seen.

Fortunately I don’t have to use them all that often. Mostly it’s 0p at work for me!
We get a discount through Octopus Energy for Instavolt chargers I believe, think it was £0.59kWh when we were away the other week.

My wife used to get free charging at work until recently, but loads of people suddenly started to get EV's and started to take the mick, so she's introduced a fee, which of course she pays now like everybody else. Its cheaper than public charging but still got complaints. It was like an unofficial perk. We tend to charge at home nearly all of the time now though, its so cheap anyway.
 
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We get a discount through Octopus Energy for Instavolt chargers I believe, think it was £0.59kWh when we were away the other week.

My wife used to get free charging at work until recently, but loads of people suddenly started to get EV's and started to take the mick, so she's introduced a fee, which of course she pays now like everybody else. Its cheaper than public charging but still got complaints. It was like an unofficial perk. We tend to charge at home nearly all of the time now though, its so cheap anyway.
My boss doesn’t pay enough for most of the staff to get an electric car! A few come on the bus!
I don’t expect my free perk to last forever, but so far I’ve had 3 years which is good. Offsets the 7p a mile I get for company mileage (which I’ve done a lot more of this year).
 
My boss doesn’t pay enough for most of the staff to get an electric car! A few come on the bus!
I don’t expect my free perk to last forever, but so far I’ve had 3 years which is good. Offsets the 7p a mile I get for company mileage (which I’ve done a lot more of this year).
My employer isn't interested at all with accomodating EV's. We had a Director who had one and we had an EV charge point installed in the car park, PodPoint I think it was. He was made redundant in 2022 and the company had the point removed completely, which was wild. They will only accomodate if it becomes law I think. Contrast that to our offices in the Netherlands and Germany and nearly everybody is driving ID3's and ID4's and charging at our offices!!
 
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Kind of amazing to me how that mentality is… My weekend job has about a dozen level 2 chargers and 2 DC fast chargers in its parking garage but… us extended employees aren’t allowed to use them despite no one coming in on the weekends so they’re all empty… all weekend long. So I get to park my EV (and 2 other of us extended employees with EVs) right next to empty chargers when I come in on the weekend. :p
 
We have 4 AC chargers. They are 22 kW 3phase units (from ABB btw) but as far as I know they only have 44 kW available.
That isn't much of a problem, most cars only take 11 kW in AC and the PHEVs even less.
It's pretty good as It isn't a large place.
 
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we have 3 Level 2 Tesla Charges at work. We are building our fleet on EV's, specifically Tesla. At some point we will replace a cargo delivery van with an EV. Basically any new vehicle we bring in with be EV from now on. Work pays for my home Level 2 charger that I will get in a few days. I can see difficulties with companies adding charging if they don't have easy ways to mount them on existing walls. Price for putting these in away from the building and power line would be pretty pricy.
 
Kind of amazing to me how that mentality is… My weekend job has about a dozen level 2 chargers and 2 DC fast chargers in its parking garage but… us extended employees aren’t allowed to use them despite no one coming in on the weekends so they’re all empty… all weekend long. So I get to park my EV (and 2 other of us extended employees with EVs) right next to empty chargers when I come in on the weekend. :p
Somewhat odd but I’m guessing they’re free for employees, so a perk that they don’t extend to contract employees?
Have you inquired with HR?
 
Somewhat odd but I’m guessing they’re free for employees, so a perk that they don’t extend to contract employees?
Have you inquired with HR?
Thought the same thing, but they’re $.35/kWh - and yeah asked HR and the response was they’re not available to extended employees. Lol

Going to send another email this weekend (this is a temporary weekend stint): “So I’ve been here for a month and … none of these EV chargers are used at all on the weekend, would it be possible to open them up to us extended employees, especially those of us who come in on the weekend?” :p

So you’d think they’d want people to use them vs not. <shrug>
 
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Thought the same thing, but they’re $.35/kWh - and yeah asked HR and the response was they’re not available to extended employees. Lol

Going to send another email this weekend (this is a temporary weekend stint): “So I’ve been here for a month and … none of these EV chargers are used at all on the weekend, would it be possible to open them up to us extended employees, especially those of us who come in on the weekend?” :p

So you’d think they’d want people to use them vs not. <shrug>
Now that is really odd, seems to be priced "at cost" give or take so doesn't seem to be a perk... bizarre
 
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Thought the same thing, but they’re $.35/kWh - and yeah asked HR and the response was they’re not available to extended employees. Lol

Going to send another email this weekend (this is a temporary weekend stint): “So I’ve been here for a month and … none of these EV chargers are used at all on the weekend, would it be possible to open them up to us extended employees, especially those of us who come in on the weekend?” :p

So you’d think they’d want people to use them vs not. <shrug>
Seems pretty short sighted as it will cost the company next to nothing. The bean counters probably made the decision counting the pennies it would cost the company. That being said, unless it is a government agency I doubt the company really cares if people drive EV's or not.
 
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Thought the same thing, but they’re $.35/kWh - and yeah asked HR and the response was they’re not available to extended employees. Lol

Going to send another email this weekend (this is a temporary weekend stint): “So I’ve been here for a month and … none of these EV chargers are used at all on the weekend, would it be possible to open them up to us extended employees, especially those of us who come in on the weekend?” :p

So you’d think they’d want people to use them vs not. <shrug>
I bet I know what it is... As a retired former engineer at a big software company, who has been both a full time employee and a contractor at different stages in my career, I bet it's a perk for the full timers. And the reason why they don't want the "weekend staff" to use them is because the full timers will complain if they see that happening.
 
Kind of amazing to me how that mentality is… My weekend job has about a dozen level 2 chargers and 2 DC fast chargers in its parking garage but… us extended employees aren’t allowed to use them despite no one coming in on the weekends so they’re all empty… all weekend long. So I get to park my EV (and 2 other of us extended employees with EVs) right next to empty chargers when I come in on the weekend. :p
I did point out to my employer that they could have simply disabled the charger for the time being or put a tariff on it to perhaps charge employees or visitors to use it. As it stands, out of 150 people we don't have a single EV in the car park now, which seems bizarre. A lot of factory staff can't afford them though and sales staff opt for ICE or mild hybrids. It is only a matter of time though, where EV's will start to be seen, but I suppose most employees live within 8 miles, I like 14 miles away, so I think they will hold out putting chargers back in until it becomes UK legislation for businesses. Contrast to where my wife works and they now have 8-12 chargers, not sure exactly how many, but they've embraced it and with a policy that all company cars have to be electric. Anybody who does't want an EV has to lease their own and use the £700 a month allowance.
 
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I did point out to my employer that they could have simply disabled the charger for the time being or put a tariff on it to perhaps charge employees or visitors to use it. As it stands, out of 150 people we don't have a single EV in the car park now, which seems bizarre. A lot of factory staff can't afford them though and sales staff opt for ICE or mild hybrids. It is only a matter of time though, where EV's will start to be seen, but I suppose most employees live within 8 miles, I like 14 miles away, so I think they will hold out putting chargers back in until it becomes UK legislation for businesses. Contrast to where my wife works and they now have 8-12 chargers, not sure exactly how many, but they've embraced it and with a policy that all company cars have to be electric. Anybody who does't want an EV has to lease their own and use the £700 a month allowance.
No one has a company car where I work. Just a car allowance for some people (me included). But I just view it as part of my salary.
20 people in the office. Two owners have EV’s (MG4 and Polstar 4) and me (BMW i3).

Anyway I’ve just got back from a trip to Leeds in a diesel van. Horrible smells stuff filling up and constant noise has given me a headache. So glad I don’t drive an ICE car anymore.
 
Apartments seem to be the weak spot for EV's. One of our guys has one of our 3's and he lives in a small apartment complex in a rural town. We give our guys the Tesla level 2 chargers for their homes and unfortunately they won't let him install. I am getting one installed in the next week or two. It definitely seems like that is a strong piece to the EV puzzle for a great experience with no hassle.
I have an apartment in a town in the Netherlands. With two designated parking spaces underneath the building. The VVE (HOA) has been working to get individual charging to each space, excess from the solar, once the storage batteries are full, will be provided for the residents for their charging. That was the most contentious by non ev drivers. It is nice and handy, just like at my home now. Easy to plug in, free, or a low consumer rates.
 
Tesla announced in Chine the Tesla Y L. Basically a larger version of the Y with longer range. From what I read it is around 700 km now which is impressive! Not sure when they are coming to N. America.
 
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I have an apartment in a town in the Netherlands. With two designated parking spaces underneath the building. The VVE (HOA) has been working to get individual charging to each space, excess from the solar, once the storage batteries are full, will be provided for the residents for their charging. That was the most contentious by non ev drivers. It is nice and handy, just like at my home now. Easy to plug in, free, or a low consumer rates.
good to hear. Let me ask some questions for clarification: is your place rented or do you own? in the US an apartment it typically the term for a rental place. and is the entire complex a rental or is it individual owners (some who might subsequently rent out).
And then, who is paying for this? it sure isn't "good will" ...
In the US there are "rental complexes" where a single entity owns the entire complex and handles the rental/leasing etc. Those places have very little incentive to install solar or EV charging.
Then there are "Condos" that are sold to individuals but those might rent out their properties. They might be more motivated re solar/EV chargers but they would make the individual owners pay for the cost ...
And I'm probably missing some nuances ...
I'm just curious ...
 
good to hear. Let me ask some questions for clarification: is your place rented or do you own? in the US an apartment it typically the term for a rental place. and is the entire complex a rental or is it individual owners (some who might subsequently rent out).
And then, who is paying for this? it sure isn't "good will" ...
In the US there are "rental complexes" where a single entity owns the entire complex and handles the rental/leasing etc. Those places have very little incentive to install solar or EV charging.
Then there are "Condos" that are sold to individuals but those might rent out their properties. They might be more motivated re solar/EV chargers but they would make the individual owners pay for the cost ...
And I'm probably missing some nuances ...
I'm just curious ...
Apartment = Flat; i.e. in a multi-tenanted building. Can be anything from a small block to a sky scraper; could be a little studio, or a multi-level penthouse with a pool and heli-deck.

The VVE is Vereniging van Eigenaren, hence I put Home Owners Association as that is a comparable body. Ours is in the private sector, so no social housing.

The installation is paid for by the owners, and I'm aware of where there are occupants who are renting from an owner where the owner doesn't want to pay, and the occupant has paid. If you are there long term it is a good cost saving. So yes, the owners pay. My two spaces aren't next to each other unfortunately, as how our scheme works is that they are dual ceiling mount supply points, so an unwilling neighbour could get their install for free. But let's say it is a good demographic and there is no problem, my 'parking neighbour' came to me in the hope I want it as well so the costs are effectively halved. Most are buying in, it just adds value to the apartment.

And beside this one, each apartment can also have solar panels, and home battery storage.

The general solar panels come from the VVE/HOA service chargers, so our money again, but together with the building storage batteries it actually reduces our electricity bill considerably, and is sufficient to power the lighting, inside and out, and the garage doors, door access system, and the lifts. Payback is only about 6 years for that part. So a no-brainer.
 
Apartment = Flat; i.e. in a multi-tenanted building. Can be anything from a small block to a sky scraper; could be a little studio, or a multi-level penthouse with a pool and heli-deck.

The VVE is Vereniging van Eigenaren, hence I put Home Owners Association as that is a comparable body. Ours is in the private sector, so no social housing.

The installation is paid for by the owners, and I'm aware of where there are occupants who are renting from an owner where the owner doesn't want to pay, and the occupant has paid. If you are there long term it is a good cost saving. So yes, the owners pay. My two spaces aren't next to each other unfortunately, as how our scheme works is that they are dual ceiling mount supply points, so an unwilling neighbour could get their install for free. But let's say it is a good demographic and there is no problem, my 'parking neighbour' came to me in the hope I want it as well so the costs are effectively halved. Most are buying in, it just adds value to the apartment.

And beside this one, each apartment can also have solar panels, and home battery storage.

The general solar panels come from the VVE/HOA service chargers, so our money again, but together with the building storage batteries it actually reduces our electricity bill considerably, and is sufficient to power the lighting, inside and out, and the garage doors, door access system, and the lifts. Payback is only about 6 years for that part. So a no-brainer.
Thanks, appreciate all the info and all makes perfect sense.
I've been lucky from the perspective that I've lived in single family homes for over 30 years so from a solar/EV charging perspective my own "boss" so to speak.
And the HOAs in single family home developments are more about enforcing rules/landscaping and such.
What I've heard from friends and also some posters here is that HOAs of condo/townhomes (so places that sell the property to individuals) are not that open for providing "services/infrastructure (think EV chargers)" for what is still a small percentage of users.
And apartment complexes that rent out only would have to cover the cost upfront and the re-coup from (increased) rent, that's an unlikely scenario, for now.
 
Thanks, appreciate all the info and all makes perfect sense.
I've been lucky from the perspective that I've lived in single family homes for over 30 years so from a solar/EV charging perspective my own "boss" so to speak.
And the HOAs in single family home developments are more about enforcing rules/landscaping and such.
What I've heard from friends and also some posters here is that HOAs of condo/townhomes (so places that sell the property to individuals) are not that open for providing "services/infrastructure (think EV chargers)" for what is still a small percentage of users.
And apartment complexes that rent out only would have to cover the cost upfront and the re-coup from (increased) rent, that's an unlikely scenario, for now.
It is our first flat in our live. We have otherwise detached properties, this just made a lot of sense as an investment whilst having a place to stay and not use hotels, and as things happened my daughter is now going to uni in that town. So it all worked out. My first time dealing with VVE/HOA, generally a bunch of busybodies, but when you figure out they care more about the property value than anything else it is actually a pretty easy sell to drag them into the 21st century. Forget the convenience, it makes financial sense. This one is well organised. My mum wants to move into a flat and most in the area we've seen fall through on the badly run VVE/HOA where the maintenance budgets just don't make any sense and there will be big bills for the building.

Our property in the UK is detached and away from people, just a local concil, no home owners association with powers. But the internet was bad, really bad, so I started a cummunity limited liability company and raised with government subsidies and pledges from the other households a project that we all get fibre to the home. That worked well as well.

The focus on core infrastructure I like, as that is what prepares us for the future. As long as you get the minimum threshold then such projects become worth while. And also the first participants have the benefit of economy of scale. The contractor for the work here had a minimum number of connections, and when others want it as well it will be batches and you may have to wait. Otherwise it isn't worth their while with all the paperwork etc.

Oh and for the whole complex, core building insurance with solar panels, underground car charging, storage batteries, the insurance went up by less than what I would spend alone on a a dinner for two ;)
 
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Thanks, appreciate all the info and all makes perfect sense.
I've been lucky from the perspective that I've lived in single family homes for over 30 years so from a solar/EV charging perspective my own "boss" so to speak.
And the HOAs in single family home developments are more about enforcing rules/landscaping and such.
What I've heard from friends and also some posters here is that HOAs of condo/townhomes (so places that sell the property to individuals) are not that open for providing "services/infrastructure (think EV chargers)" for what is still a small percentage of users.
And apartment complexes that rent out only would have to cover the cost upfront and the re-coup from (increased) rent, that's an unlikely scenario, for now.
I have a townhome here in FL and the HOA manages the "outside" (mostly) which includes the roof so I can't have solar panels up there. I started experimenting with solar last year so I only have a couple smaller batteries and a couple panels I set up in the courtyard. It's great for charging small devices but I'm not set up for whole house blackouts.

I might have mentioned earlier in the conversation that my townhome's electrical panel is on the 2nd floor in the middle of the unit so running a L2 line to the garage would be cost prohibitive. So I charge on standard 120V. And there's a Supercharger like 2 miles away.

I am in the process of purchasing a vacation home (single family house) so that would give me options for solar there. The builder rep I'm working with is also a Tesla owner so we wound up spending a bit of time talking about EVs and such and now he is throwing in a Tesla Wall Connector in my future garage.
 
Tesla announced in Chine the Tesla Y L. Basically a larger version of the Y with longer range. From what I read it is around 700 km now which is impressive! Not sure when they are coming to N. America.
The biggest news is that it is a six seater with two captain chairs in the middle. It is priced very competitively. This model for its price will sell a ton in the USA. Makes one wonder if the X model will be discontinued.
 
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The biggest news is that it is a six seater with two captain chairs in the middle. It is priced very competitively. This model for its price will sell a ton in the USA. Makes one wonder if the X model will be discontinued.

If/When this becomes available in the US, I will sell my TM3 and get the TMYL. I’ll give my 7-seater TMY to my wife.

If they come out with a performance version, it will be icing…
 
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