Not really. The new model y fully loaded will be almost 50 thousand, the bare base model Ioniq9 starts at 59 thousand and can go up to 77 thousand for the calligraphy model. Dont get me wrong i like Hyundai a lot but price wise and what one gets feature wise, it will be very difficult to compete with the new model y.
Agreed, not comparable given price difference. But the China Model Y isn’t here yet, and I would have thought Tesla would go for the large Y in the US first with our propensity towards hugemobiles. And I wonder if it ever will be.
so the Ioniq 9 is 199.2" long and the current Y is 187" and the rumored Y L is supposedly 189".
There are (unfortunately imho) too many "big EVs" available today, eg Cadillac's offering, the Hummer EV, F150/Silverado EV, the Vivian's, the new Lucid SUV just to name some. We have imho plenty choices in that segment.
The credit is up to 80k for trucks and suv's so some trims of the Silverado EV should qualify.
The Y was the best selling car in 2023, not just of EV's but all cars, so think it is safe to say it is outselling the 3. Both are great cars with different purposes. We have 3 model 3's in our fleet plus my Y.
This so much. I have no hate on the Cybertruck, F150 or EV9 but most people in the USA drive solo or with one passenger. Using a 3-5 ton machine to transport 300 pounds doesn’t make sense.
Part of the problem is marketing that the car industry does to incentivize theses types of cars. In general the bigger the car the more they can charge.
There is a theory that safety devices contribute to unsafe driving and I believe this. If the steering wheel had a big metal spike instead of an airbag in the middle, there’s a good chance people would be more careful with how they drive. People feel they are invincible in these big vehicles, but unfortunately that’s not the case. They think nothing will happen to them, but even in a big vehicle you can easily die. Most crash test are done at 45 mph. In the USA most people drive significantly faster than that. Even at 50 mph the damage will be substantially higher than what’s seen in a crash test. In the USA over 40,000 people die each year in car crashes. I’m not sure if there are numbers but I bet 2 to 3 times that many suffered life-changing injuries. I guarantee you the majority of these deaths and injuries were not in small cars. I’ve seen crashes that I wish I could unsee.
I think this is the answer. I’ve always thought manually driving a vehicle was the craziest thing people do.
Really? I think FSD will just be another excuse people use for road rage.
It is marketing in general. Look at the people upgrading their phones every year, their computer, their iPad with every new model. The western culture is consumerism and most people drink that right up. Look at the stampedes for black Friday sales. The culture is messed up.
It was easier when things weren’t so dang expensive. I remember getting an iPad Pro for $600. Now … it’s more expensive than MBPs. Same for my iPhone - I remember it being free to upgrade via the carrier for the longest time, then all of a sudden, $1000, now … $1800+.
I genuinely envy you. That is really cool. All my cars have been loans. I’ve paid off 3 of them (over the years) and my two Teslas are almost half paid off each. lol.
The trick in general would be to make it a work truck/car (certain criteria needs to be met) then one can use it as a tax deduction, this also includes depreciation write off. Taxation is always a game of cat and mouse so laws do constantly change but loops holes are always there to be exploited. Thats how a lot of people work the system to get the vehicles at minimal real cost to them. You still have to pay for the car but having that deducted from ones tax liability makes a word of difference.
Always bought my iPhones as well. Still using an iPhone 12. Will replace it when the battery becomes a problem
Eventually they won’t have control over the car. They can roll down the window and scream at the other car but why. Most people will be just staring at their phones
