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Who's anticipating buying a 2010 Mac Pro?

birdpixel said:
The final additional bonus (for me) would be the time I can spend with my children because I chose to not build a system for me.
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Exactly. I used to build my own PC's in over the top overclocked to the hilt style and while it was fun for a while, it is all consuming and you end up spending more time building, endlessly upgrading, testing and benching to the point that you barely have any time left to actually use it for what it is intended for. Mac pro came to the rescue for me and I'm not looking back, but I am anxiously waiting to up my 2008 quad to at least a 2010 3.3 6 core setup. ;)
 
3.33 Hexa Pricing?

Any thoughts about pricing?

The current Nehalem 3.33 Quad (single CPU) is $3699. :eek: And it's unavailable except as BTO from Apple, meaning sales tax.

I saw it as low as $3199 in the refurb store...once. But there haven't been any refurbs of this model available for a couple weeks.

This doesn't bode well for the Gulftown single CPU 3.33 Mac Pro being any lower than $3199... I don't think they'd sell it lower than the refurb price of the current model.
 
when the Fermi launched i read a quick summary of it. looks nice but you need The Hoover Dam to power it. completely ridiculous.

I think Nvidia can't do anything because Intel and AMD have all the patents for lower power operation and it seems the only thing Nvidia is doing is putting more cores on their GPU's kind of like when Intel increased the instruction pipeline on the P4 to increase it's GHz at the cost of efficiency
 
alent1234 said:
when the Fermi launched i read a quick summary of it. looks nice but you need The Hoover Dam to power it. completely ridiculous.

I think Nvidia can't do anything because Intel and AMD have all the patents for lower power operation and it seems the only thing Nvidia is doing is putting more cores on their GPU's kind of like when Intel increased the instruction pipeline on the P4 to increase it's GHz at the cost of efficiency
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I read this review below, and it sounds like there is no reason to choose these nvidia card over the ati ones for any reason.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review

"The HD 5850 is the clear value winner when compared to the GTX 470. We have been telling you that the Radeon 5850 is the best value in enthusiast video cards since last year and the GTX 470 does nothing to change that."

"The GeForce GTX 480 consumes more power than the HD 5870, produces more heat, and costs more money (which might also include the cost of a new PSU). It doesn’t seem like the best value with all this factored in. The only thing that "blew us away" was the heat coming out of the video card and the sound of the fan."
 
xgman said:
Interesting take on the new mac pro rumors for what it is worth:

http://macosrumors.com/2010/03/29/roadmap-2010-mac-pro/

"we do believe that this revision is imminent and that we are looking at a timetable of weeks, not months."
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Thanks for posting that Xgman. It would be nice if the entry level Pro was around the price of the 27" iMac. That would change my mind pretty quickly regarding what I will get to replace my 2006 iMac.
 
Weren't they the same people who said the 2009 would be black and silver and have 16 cores? What they posted sounds vaguely plausible this time around, but I still don't trust them.
 
J the Ninja said:
Weren't they the same people who said the 2009 would be black and silver and have 16 cores? What they posted sounds vaguely plausible this time around, but I still don't trust them.
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Yes they also said Apple would use new PCI-E 32 lane cards or some nonsense. They try to convey an air of being connected to Apple insiders but it is quiet obvious from statements that they don't even understand the Workstation platform in regard to the Mac Pro. It's like they read the rumours and wishes here and took what they liked and tried to make it in to an article.
 
Umbongo said:
Yes they also said Apple would use new PCI-E 32 lane cards or some nonsense. They try to convey an air of being connected to Apple insiders but it is quiet obvious from statements that they don't even understand the Workstation platform in regard to the Mac Pro. It's like they read the rumours and wishes here and took what they liked and tried to make it in to an article.
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I remembered having to do that in college and english classes. Ah, the glory days of BS writing.
 
J the Ninja said:
Weren't they the same people who said the 2009 would be black and silver and have 16 cores? What they posted sounds vaguely plausible this time around, but I still don't trust them.
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Then again no one has gotten it right so far. I just like hearing something about it. Do you know how easy it would be to spend the MP $ on something else while waiting? I'll take whatever news I can get to keep me on track since I do think this will be a nice upgrade when it finally hits.
 
xgman said:
Then again no one has gotten it right so far. I just like hearing something about it. Do you know how easy it would be to spend the MP $ on something else while waiting? I'll take whatever news I can get to keep me on track since I do think this will be a nice upgrade when it finally hits.
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I do understand where you are coming from, but that site just make it up and plenty of it isn't realistic in the slightest. They used to be a reliable rumour site years ago but then they were down for a while or something and now it is just garbage. All anyone seems to really know is they will use newer generation graphics cards, some of the new Intel processors and they will come out in the next 2 months. Not much to hold out on so everything related becomes interesting I know :)
 
Having fun at Mac OS Rumors expense...

Oh how fun it is... :D

These are a composite of a very wide range of prototypes, so expect them to be wide of the mark in at least one or two minor respects; note that there are a few refinements/changes from our previous Overview post based on new source reports about several moving targets with regard to specs, and our latest analyses of that information.
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WTF? Translation: we don't have a clue!

Improved/modified enclosure which could be as obviously dramatic as the black-accent visual revamp we’ve described as long ago as this time last year….or as subtle as a slight size increase to accommodate a larger motherboard, heavier-duty cooling hardware, new port layout, and/or changes to expansion slots.
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Yeah, I'm sure Apple is going to adopt your visual revamp. :rolleyes: Since the new CPU's are a drop-in replacement for the existing ones, how do they conclude there might be a slight size increase for larger motherboard, cooling, port layout or expansion slots which have no reason to change.

Stock GPU(s) either ATi 4800-series or NVIDIA 200-series. Optional ATi 5000-series (5870?) and/or NVIDIA 400-series (470?) cards.
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Stating the obvious.

On some or all models, PCI Express 2.0 expansion slots may be improved: some prototypes sported dramatic upgrades in this area, but the consensus is that either one new slot will be added (total of four), or speeds on the current three slots will be improved: either way, total PCIe bandwidth may increase to 32X (16+8+8/16+8+4+4) or more (up to 16+16+8+8, though this is unlikely) from current 24X (16+4+4).
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"Some prototypes"? Who do they think they are fooling? The current model already has four slots in a 16+16+4+4 config. And the number of lanes is dictated by the chipset which hasn't changed with Gulftown. I suppose they may be talking about the three empty slots in a standard Mac Pro, but it's pretty foolish to start spec'ing lane counts without factoring in the primary GPU slot. These guys are starting to look pretty foolish. :rolleyes:

Reduced pricing on the Apple RAID Card.
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You would hope so, but I wouldn't put my money on this.

New build-to-order SSD drive options, and modest improvements to HDD options.
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Pure speculation on the SSD's. I'm not sure what they mean by "modest improvements to HDD options" :confused: The Mac Pro already offers the WD Black series which are among the best performing high-capacity drives available.

Standard optical “Superdrive” upgraded to 24X from 18X?
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The question mark is theirs... not mine.

Some prototypes were based on a high-end motherboard design which includes support for USB 3.0 and Bluetooth 3.0, but cost concerns and few USB3 devices currently on the market make it questionable which models this would be utilized for, if any. We’re not prepared to make a prediction at this time, but are doubtful.
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Here we go again with the "prototypes". Despite having seen prototypes they're not prepared to make a prediction at this time and are doubtful. LOL.

These guys crack me up. Most of the people here could have put together a better speculation article than these clowns.
 
Phantom Gremlin said:
At least they're telling us what we want to hear. Who wouldn't want a $1999 entry price? But that's a very big price drop, which is why I don't believe it.
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It is for the existing 45nm quad core MP though. But yea, I think $500 is too big of a price drop. I think realistically, it could be $2299.
 
Now that I've dabbled around with them, I don't understand what is stopping Apple from including a 2.5" bay for SSD boot disks in the machine. Honestly, putting the system on a striped set of cheapo X25-Vs was the biggest performance boost from an upgrade I've seen. It was a shame I had to use duct tape to make it work :p

Video for your convenience:

link :D

Also, I managed to get my hands on some more equipment, which will come or go depending on what Apple decides to put into the new box.

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Techhie said:
Now that I've dabbled around with them, I don't understand what is stopping Apple from including a 2.5" bay for SSD boot disks in the machine. Honestly, putting the system on a striped set of cheapo X25-Vs was the biggest performance boost from an upgrade I've seen. It was a shame I had to use duct tape to make it work :p

Video for your convenience:

link :D

Also, I managed to get my hands on some more equipment, which will come or go depending on what Apple decides to put into the new box.
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wow man... thats impressive... i remember i did that once on a 2007 MBP that was at Myer. i was waiting for quite a long time for the computer to respond ;)

care to post read/write benchies?
 
VirtualRain said:
These guys crack me up. Most of the people here could have put together a better speculation article than these clowns.
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You know what, I don't even care. It just keeps me distracted enough to be patient and keep on waiting which is very hard for me to do by nature. In the end it won't matter whether they are wrong or right or in between. ;)
 
xgman said:
You know what, I don't even care. It just keeps me distracted enough to be patient and keep on waiting which is very hard for me to do by nature. In the end it won't matter whether they are wrong or right or in between. ;)
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Agreed. I have to admit, the reason I dissected their predictions was out of pure boredom waiting for a MP refresh also! :eek:
 
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