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Who's anticipating buying a 2010 Mac Pro?
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Gulftown/Arrandale are starting to seem more like delusions than inevitabilities.
It always seems like this just before a new release.
Do you realize that 1 Gulftown Chip cost $999 (6-Cores/12Threads) so dual chips (12-Cores/24Threads) will be $1,998
So the Base Mac Pro will probably be cheaper then the current quad (but not by much) and the 12 Core machine will be Priced HIGH ($3,500 Starting Price)
Also the MAC PRO's probably won't be released until MARCH 16th or a week before.
So the Base Mac Pro will probably be cheaper then the current quad (but not by much) and the 12 Core machine will be Priced HIGH ($3,500 Starting Price)
Also the MAC PRO's probably won't be released until MARCH 16th or a week before.
Do you realize that 1 Gulftown Chip cost $999 (6-Cores/12Threads) so dual chips (12-Cores/24Threads) will be $1,998
So the Base Mac Pro will probably be cheaper then the current quad (but not by much) and the 12 Core machine will be Priced HIGH ($3,500 Starting Price)
Also the MAC PRO's probably won't be released until MARCH 16th or a week before.
What is/was the cost of the 2.66 quad currently in the base MP? I'm sures its as bit cheaper now, how about when it was released?
I'm looking to buy a 12-Core Mac Pro when they are released. I'm upgrading from a single CPU G5 that I sold this summer.
$858 and $1286?
Those are the prices for the 5500 series.
The 2.66GHz W3520 the base Quad Pro uses is $309 on newegg, the 2.93GHz W3540 is $619.
That's the i7-980X (they've decided not to call it the i9 series), and is a SP chip, not DP. Those will be more ($1600USD each for the top end from the information that's out; highest clock speed).Do you realize that 1 Gulftown Chip cost $999 (6-Cores/12Threads) so dual chips (12-Cores/24Threads) will be $1,998
So the Base Mac Pro will probably be cheaper then the current quad (but not by much) and the 12 Core machine will be Priced HIGH ($3,500 Starting Price)
Also the MAC PRO's probably won't be released until MARCH 16th or a week before.
The current base Octad E5520 goes for $373USD each, and that system costs $3299USD. Deduct 2x E5520 from it's base price ($2453), then add in the new CPU price (2x), and you get $5753USD in a base configuration (same specs as the current '09's).
That's the i7-980X (they've decided not to call it the i9 series), and is a SP chip, not DP. Those will be more ($1600USD each for the top end from the information that's out; highest clock speed).
The current base Octad E5520 goes for $373USD each, and that system costs $3299USD. Deduct 2x E5520 from it's base price ($2453), then add in the new CPU price (2x), and you get $5753USD in a base configuration (same specs as the current '09's).
You are comparing the current base to the proposed high-end config.
Current base: $3299 -746 (373x2, base procs) =2553.
The $1600 chips are the high end ones. 2553+3200=5753. This would be a price drop of 146 compared to current high end config which is at 5899.
I didn't go through and do the total cost for each model, and yes, there will be some differences due to the margin on the higher cost CPU's. It was meant to be more of a realistic estimate. Sorry that wasn't clear, as it was implied in my mind.
Guess not. It also depends on whether anything in the system will change (boards, specs,...). I don't expect it (i.e. new parts soldered to the logic board that would mean a PCB rework/redesign). Firmware related is possible (and hoped for), but that could still have some bearing on the hardware used that could change the pricing (i.e. 1333MHz DIMM's). Then there's the margin applied.
Yeah, this is going to be one expensive upgrade, yet I will have a hard time resisting a 12 core, loaded with ram model. I wonder how much my 2008 2x3.2, 16gb ram box will be worth to sell towards this. . . . I had hoped to be able to keep it, but I think this is going to be over the top expensive to configure.
Do you realize that 1 Gulftown Chip cost $999 (6-Cores/12Threads) so dual chips (12-Cores/24Threads) will be $1,998
So the Base Mac Pro will probably be cheaper then the current quad (but not by much) and the 12 Core machine will be Priced HIGH ($3,500 Starting Price)
Also the MAC PRO's probably won't be released until MARCH 16th or a week before.
Where are you getting that March 16th date?
Personally, I'd be happy to see the base with a 2.8 i7 quad core (a la iMac), with the option to upgrade to hex-core, and a top end of two hex-cores, however I fear that won't happen, and the base will kick in even more expensive than the current base model??
I'm looking to replace my aging PMG5 as I want an Intel system given support is waning for non-Intel processors. I have an iMac i7 downstairs; it was intended to replace my G5, but sadly it's waiting to go back due to the well publicised screen issues so I've decided to stick with my 30" cinema and wait for the next Mac Pro - I just hope the money doesn't burn holes in my pockets in the meantime ....
[Note to self - resist the urge to buy a Mac Pro now, wait a few weeks for the new one!!!!!]
I'm looking to replace my aging PMG5 as I want an Intel system given support is waning for non-Intel processors. I have an iMac i7 downstairs; it was intended to replace my G5, but sadly it's waiting to go back due to the well publicised screen issues so I've decided to stick with my 30" cinema and wait for the next Mac Pro - I just hope the money doesn't burn holes in my pockets in the meantime ....
[Note to self - resist the urge to buy a Mac Pro now, wait a few weeks for the new one!!!!!]
I could imagine a $500 drop in prices across the board for existing models with the hex and dodeca core machines taking over top spot at a significant premium.
Without doing a lot of math, maybe something like this...
2.66 Quad -> $2000
2.93 Quad -> $2500
3.2 Hexa -> $3000-$3500
2.26 Octo -> $3000 (I'm guessing this config gets dropped actually)
3.3 Hexa -> $4000
2.66 Octo -> $4000
3.2 Dodeca -> $5000
3.33 Dodeca -> $6000
I could imagine a $500 drop in prices across the board for existing models with the hex and dodeca core machines taking over top spot at a significant premium.
Without doing a lot of math, maybe something like this...
2.66 Quad -> $2000
2.93 Quad -> $2500
3.2 Hexa -> $3000-$3500
2.26 Octo -> $3000 (I'm guessing this config gets dropped actually)
3.3 Hexa -> $4000
2.66 Octo -> $4000
3.2 Dodeca -> $5000
3.33 Dodeca -> $6000
Wow really?
This totally goes against Nano's pricing predictions of continued pricing trends.
With all due respect to Nano of course, I hope that you're right
A quad @ $2000 would just be perfect
Another thought on the Mac Pro pricing...
A simple slogan from Apple saying "The New Mac Pro, starting at $1999" would go a long way in my opinion, but unfortunately, this would contradict the ecosystem of pricing Apple has in their Mac lineup setup. If you notice the pricing differences in their desktop range, it goes (from low end Mac Mini to low end Mac Pro:
$599 - 799 - 1199 - 1499 - 1699 - 1999 - 2499
The biggest leap in pricing is from the high end iMac to the low end Mac Pro at a $500 price difference and the lowest difference is between their midrange iMacs at $200 apart. So deducting from this, I don't think the quad base Mac Pro would go down to $1999, but they could reach $2299 at the lowest, as that is a $200 price difference.
This is completely speculative based entirely on the Mac desktop pricing eco system, without any analytical breakdown of technology and cost of parts, so please take with a grain of salt
Edit: Looking at it at a broader perspective, only from machine to machine: from high end Mac Mini to low end iMac: $400 difference, from high end iMac to low end Mac Pro: $500. So never mind, they'll probably keep it at $2499 still.
A simple slogan from Apple saying "The New Mac Pro, starting at $1999" would go a long way in my opinion, but unfortunately, this would contradict the ecosystem of pricing Apple has in their Mac lineup setup. If you notice the pricing differences in their desktop range, it goes (from low end Mac Mini to low end Mac Pro:
$599 - 799 - 1199 - 1499 - 1699 - 1999 - 2499
The biggest leap in pricing is from the high end iMac to the low end Mac Pro at a $500 price difference and the lowest difference is between their midrange iMacs at $200 apart. So deducting from this, I don't think the quad base Mac Pro would go down to $1999, but they could reach $2299 at the lowest, as that is a $200 price difference.
This is completely speculative based entirely on the Mac desktop pricing eco system, without any analytical breakdown of technology and cost of parts, so please take with a grain of salt
Edit: Looking at it at a broader perspective, only from machine to machine: from high end Mac Mini to low end iMac: $400 difference, from high end iMac to low end Mac Pro: $500. So never mind, they'll probably keep it at $2499 still.
Wow, get ready for the Mac Pro user backlash on that one. The professionals aren't going to like the smaller form factor of that. Say goodbye to internal hard drive expansion
Interesting...this is kind of classic MacRumors. Dedicated users in short advance of a product upgrade start working themselves up in speculation of product specs and pricing. The downside is that the extent to which Apple doesn't meets those speculations represents the degree of Apple bashing that happens later. I worry you guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment....