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Why Assistant Needs an A5 and How it Was 'Many Iterations' Ahead of its Competitors
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This could prove to be interesting. I initially thought, "oh, it's like voice control on Mac OS X" -- which is more of an accessibility application with a rigid command structure. I've never seen it work or deliver results that are truly quicker that the alternatives.
If what they are saying is true, there are indeed things I could communicate with my voice to a smart system faster than using my hands. That would actually be useful. Although I tend to use my iPhone in noisy environments, perhaps this interface can be improved with the mic.
I wonder if they have a solution for looking like a lunatic when you talk to yourself? ;-)
If what they are saying is true, there are indeed things I could communicate with my voice to a smart system faster than using my hands. That would actually be useful. Although I tend to use my iPhone in noisy environments, perhaps this interface can be improved with the mic.
I wonder if they have a solution for looking like a lunatic when you talk to yourself? ;-)
No, of course not, it won't stop working, you're right.
But it reminds me of what Amazon's Besos said: "There are two types of companies: those that work hard to charge customers more, and those that work hard to charge customers less. Both approaches can work. We are firmly in the second camp." And Apple is clearly in the first.
It is as if my phone was "fixed" in time. Instead of making new technological/software developments beneficial to me (as a person, or actually as an existing customer), I need to become a new customer and buy something new.
The don't make things better. They make better things (that one needs to buy over and over, throwing out what he has, being bled dry, overconsuming, wasting things like crazy, etc.)
A little less arrogance would serve you well. Again - until tomorrow there is no right or wrong - only conjecture. But keep believing what you say is gospel. Maybe we can all start a thread pointing out how wrong you were (or maybe right) tomorrow.
Agreed. A note to all those complaining "Why..... Apple...... Groundbreaking". I think it's more because Apple knows how to:
1. Grab a concept/invention that even the inventor doesn't know how to sell.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#1976.E2.80.931980:_The_early_years
2. Create a beautiful product
3. Market it to make sure people know what it is
4. Make it simple enough so "normal" people use it (FaceTime vs. Skype)
Apple's considered to be an "Innovator" not an "Inventor". (Personifying Apple).
Here's a list of Apple's contribution: (when I say "First" I mean a device that people would buy and not "concept" devices that companies can show off)
1. First ever Personal Computer (Back then normal people using computers was a silly concept)
2. First ever GUI based OS
3. First ever "Laptop" with an integrated keyboard and palm rest
4. The "click-wheel" input method
5. First ever laptop with wireless networking
6. Apple revolutionized the way a lot people buy (legal) music
7. The first ever mobile device to successfully implement Multi-touch, No Stylus, A Virtual Keyboard
8. Taking the success of music store forward and creating a wildly successful App Store making people "purchase" Apps
9. First ever mass-produced tablet device. Before this, the industry didn't even think about mass-producing these devices (mass-producing = millionS)
10. First OS to build-in multi-touch (my speculation)
Source: Wikipedia
The list is endless.....
Why is Apple a game-changer and innovator.... because you have names like "iPod Killers" "iPhone Killers" and "iPad Killers" (That doesn't translate that they're the best, but they were introduced before everything else)
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That is the entire point of the technology and why it is groundbreaking. It is also why it requires a more powerful phone to work.
This is not about learning preapproved keywords it is about talking to your device as your assistant and it taking care of business.
That is why when people say android or wm have had this for years they are wrong.
I don't know how well it will work but apple did delay the bexg iohone 6 months to make sure it worked how they wanted it to work so I expect to be amazed
aperry said:
That is the entire point of the technology and why it is groundbreaking. It is also why it requires a more powerful phone to work.
This is not about learning preapproved keywords it is about talking to your device as your assistant and it taking care of business.
That is why when people say android or wm have had this for years they are wrong.
I don't know how well it will work but apple did delay the bexg iohone 6 months to make sure it worked how they wanted it to work so I expect to be amazed
haha yeah, some gems we'll hear are: "woulda happened anyway", "Apple didn't invent voice recognition", "people are rewriting history", "I'm a VIP in computer land and in 1965, we were experimenting with voice recognition" and "apple is building on the technology of others"...happens everytime.
On another note, we're also hearing the "this is useless", "I won't use it", "people don't wanna talk to a phone"...
guarantee within a year, all oems will start implementing (poorly) their own versions of assistant
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Obviously not Mac rumors. There have been previous stories on this technology here
dukebound85 said:
Obviously not Mac rumors. There have been previous stories on this technology here
^How often to you make multiple simultaneous plans while in the car or on foot with your laptop on wifi? This is an application designed for mobile users.
^You, like many others on this thread, have obviously never used SIRI assistant. It is much more than voice recognition software. It plans your events based on your location, your schedule, and your preferences. That being said, the voice recognition algorithms designed by SIRI and refined by Apple will be what Google is to Bing.
Please readers. Go and watch SIRI videos so you can at least know a little bit about what you are talking about.
This iteration will undoubtedly be interconnected with many applications on you phone that we can just begin to imagine incorporating into our mobile lives. Find your contacts by location, rent cars based on your airplane reservations and preferences, find movies near to restaurants and at appropriate times, send emails or texts on the fly without looking down at your phone, purchase tickets and make reservations, analyze weather patterns when preparing for a trip, plot the most efficient routes with multiple errands, skim online reviews for the best recommendations for shopping, etc.
Huh? No one is scared of anything. The iPhone 4 is still the number one selling phone in the world, it would stay ha way with no pgarades or another 6 months. You can point to feature x,y, or z but you can't point to an Android device people want more than the iPhone 4.
I will call you confused. Your belief is based on a pretty inaccurate stereotype. People want working products. They wan to know the features are well integrated.
Way off topic here, but does anyone else but me see posts with -1 down votes and click up just to get the post back to a zero?
I typically don't even read the post, I just feel bad seeing someone with a negative.
I need to get outdoors more often.
I typically don't even read the post, I just feel bad seeing someone with a negative.
I need to get outdoors more often.
I just tried the example sentence on Dragon Dictation, talking at my iPhone from 4 feet away, and it transcribed perfectly, first time, except "entin" was spelled differently, and the punctuation was missing. But a personally trained recognition app on your device will learn the uncommon words you've used previously, and know the file names in the directory that you usually send stuff from.
So the technology exists. And Dragon first became popular and useful on PCs less powerful than an iPad 2. The new iPhone is rumored to have the CPU power around that of an iPad 2, plus more RAM. Q.E.D.
Cars and cell phones really bother me lately.
Just early this morning I witnessed another idiot run a red light almost smashing into a car making a left hand turn. This one was bad as it unfolded right in front of me, if the turning driver wasn't awake the both of them might have ended up smashed into my front end.
Sadly I've been driving a long time but it has only been the last couple of years that I've seen so many of these careless drivers. It really turns your stomach to see them drive through the intersection with a cell phone glued to their head. Maybe Apples AI will be smart enough to avoid usage in a moving vehicle.
Just early this morning I witnessed another idiot run a red light almost smashing into a car making a left hand turn. This one was bad as it unfolded right in front of me, if the turning driver wasn't awake the both of them might have ended up smashed into my front end.
Sadly I've been driving a long time but it has only been the last couple of years that I've seen so many of these careless drivers. It really turns your stomach to see them drive through the intersection with a cell phone glued to their head. Maybe Apples AI will be smart enough to avoid usage in a moving vehicle.
Does no one remember this? Apple Knowledge Navigator.
This would be the obvious goal, to interact with iOS devices in plain language, rather than conforming to what the computer can understand.
This would be the obvious goal, to interact with iOS devices in plain language, rather than conforming to what the computer can understand.
A lot of bogus crap with this post!
Did you ever try to use iOS on those older models? Usability was one of the things that drove me to an iPhone 4. The limitations where not unreasonable if you expected good UI performance.
Did you ever try to use iOS on those older models? Usability was one of the things that drove me to an iPhone 4. The limitations where not unreasonable if you expected good UI performance.
Well understanding the words and understanding the context/meaning/action items are entirely different.
Comparable to the Siri-technology, that is being discussed, duh!
And here's a newsflash: voice-recognition in phones is not new. Even my Nokia E72 has it. But in the end it's pretty rudimentary. Again, nowhere near the technology discussed here.
No, I don't think that is the entire point. So far all we've heard is the natural language processing aspect of it (ie, take the sentences above and turn them into logical commands). Nowhere has it been mentioned that Apple has made a breakthrough that actually allows the app to correctly recognize the spoken words in the first place. And without such a breakthrough, the whole experience will be entirely frustrating as you repeat the same sentences over and over again in hopes that it'll stop mistaking "Ben" for "Ken".
Hope I'm wrong, but I'm still very skeptical that this will be anything worthwhile. I'm sure it'll look nice at the presentation tomorrow, but I doubt anyone will be using it in a month.
"Voice control" looked cool when it was intro'd, but no one uses it today.
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Does assistant talk back to you? Like "assisstant do the dishes", "no" or is it like "assisstant i had a bad day at work", "tell me about your day". I would upgrade for this..
Me: "Assistant, Do the dishes."
PAL: "I'm sorry Dave I can't do that."
iOS trying to play catch up
You dumbasses just keep that koolaid I have had this one my incredible before and after i rooted it, now it runs through google's online voice reecognition service which is 95-99% accurate through a very thick bronx accent. I never had to "train" the software and i can hit my search button and it works wonderfully, using natural language like "find Chinese food" and I immediately have a search of locations near me that are Chinese food restaurants. Just like the new notifications in ios5 apple is still stuck playing catch-up.
You dumbasses just keep that koolaid I have had this one my incredible before and after i rooted it, now it runs through google's online voice reecognition service which is 95-99% accurate through a very thick bronx accent. I never had to "train" the software and i can hit my search button and it works wonderfully, using natural language like "find Chinese food" and I immediately have a search of locations near me that are Chinese food restaurants. Just like the new notifications in ios5 apple is still stuck playing catch-up.
Your example is a lot more accurate than most of the Google Voice transcriptions I get from my voice mail.