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Why Assistant Needs an A5 and How it Was 'Many Iterations' Ahead of its Competitors
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Back in 2008 when I bought my first iPhone (iPhone 3G), there were a slew of phones (running Windows Mobile) that had this feature. I was on Sprint at the time and decided to change to AT&T the get the iPhone. This was back before the first Android phone was even released. From what I can recall, this feature worked fairly well.
As for you last sentence, "comparable" to what exactly?
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Because a portable device is where it would have the most impact and usefulness. It is literally an assisstant that goes where you go.
andiwm2003 said:
Because a portable device is where it would have the most impact and usefulness. It is literally an assisstant that goes where you go.
I doubt it will be an actual "AI" that "lives in the phone" though. That implies it can be all things to all people, and I certainly don't buy that guys hyperbole. He was the creator after all. It's easy to believe in your own hype just a bit too much.
How often would this be used anyway? The things people are saying here implies that it would be one of the most powerful pieces of software EVER devised. Yet, the Siri app on the app store has 3.5 stars at this point. That would suggest it's far from "great". Of course Apple has been working on it a bit since that version was posted, but still...do people REALLY think Apple has some kind of world beating AI/Voice recognition system waiting in the wings to be announced tomorrow? I'm sure it will be cool, but Apple is a tiny tiny fraction of the tech world. I seriously doubt they are going to reveal something we haven't seen before in some fashion, it will just be more tightly integrated into the device.
From my personal perspective, I never want to be seen talking AT a device in public. Either way we will see tomorrow, but I imagine the rhetoric will be bigger than the reality.
Fact is, people may not choose to share their private phone doings with the public, but many attention seekers will do exactly that.
I don't want to hear about your crappy life unless it affects me.
I understand your point.
I hold the view (and I think others do as well) that all voice commands that I've ever used are very lacking, very much so including the iPhones.
I have my doubts that apple will release an "AI" that could easily understand complicated speech and deliver accurate information is efficient ways. I understand the ability of Apple, and I will not be surprised if they prove they were up to the task tomorrow.
BUT, I will also not be surprised if it still is limited enough that it can't be considered the first true personal AI.
If it is a balla AI, Apple will have done it again!
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Because here you will say, "please send Joe the entin file abd let my wife know I will be home late tonight. Also confirm lunch with Steve and remind me to pick up my prescriptions on the way home."
It will them take that and assist you in doing all of it. This is not your dads voice recognition.
thejadedmonkey said:
Because here you will say, "please send Joe the entin file abd let my wife know I will be home late tonight. Also confirm lunch with Steve and remind me to pick up my prescriptions on the way home."
It will them take that and assist you in doing all of it. This is not your dads voice recognition.
And does what for you? What is it assisting you with? Is it buying your groceries for you? Running errands? I don't need voice additions to the Calendar, I don't even use the built in Calendar because it's not that great. So will it work with all apps, everywhere? (No, it won't). What is the "real" AI component? It appears to basically offer search from voice commands.
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Since google and Microsoft will be scrambling to copy it in the next 12-18 months, I think it will be a big deal. Also explains the delay.
Mjmar said:
Since google and Microsoft will be scrambling to copy it in the next 12-18 months, I think it will be a big deal. Also explains the delay.
Yeah, I hear the "new" MacBook Airs were a miserable failure at back-to-school time.
You might feel a little awkward saying the same name over and over to your iPhone at increased volume levels as it continued to offer directions to the wrong restaurant.
Voice command has never been reliable enough for me, and I'm skeptical that this version will be any different. It can have all the functionality in the world, but if it can't correctly recognize my words 9 out of 10 times then it's just not something I'll use. For example, using voice command to select music is terrible, almost worthless unless you physically can't reach the phone (while jogging, or if you're strapped to a chair with a time bomb).
you: look up closest medical clinic
assistant: what is your ailment?
you: I think I have genital herpes
assistant: I'm sorry I could not hear you, please repeat
you: genital herpes
assistant: can you please repeat that, I still did not hear you
you: genital herpes
assistant: one more time please
you: DAMMIT I SAID I HAVE GENITAL HERPES
(crowd around you stares)
assistant: what is your ailment?
you: I think I have genital herpes
assistant: I'm sorry I could not hear you, please repeat
you: genital herpes
assistant: can you please repeat that, I still did not hear you
you: genital herpes
assistant: one more time please
you: DAMMIT I SAID I HAVE GENITAL HERPES
(crowd around you stares)
sIt works beyond well on android phones(even the cheap ones)...But these people think the voice command thing on the iphone now is grander so don't expect much from hater's....I guess i will wait til the next nexus to come out
I highly doubt it will be that capable. The Siri app doesn't function like that at all. Do you honestly think you can tell your phone "send Joe the file" and it will know exactly what file, via what protocol (we would assume email I guess), and to the specific Joe you want (you didn't specify a last name)? I think there would be HUGE BUZZ around tech like this. You're greatly overstating things.
What's funny is that you keep asserting information as if it were fact and you know exactly how it will work. And then you use that "against" people as if it's an argument.
ALL SPECULATION. You have NO idea what or how it's going to work and what it's capable of. So for anyone saying it will be amazing - it's just as OK for someone to say "meh"
Start your preaching tomorrow after the announcement. Until then - you're opinion isn't worth any more or any less.
You can already do something similar in Windows Phone though, and I would guess Android has similar functionality.
A good example of what I figure (or hope) the Assistant will be. And if it's really what I figure it is, it'll will be another ground-breaking game-changing feature/device.
The computer on Star Trek worked the way it did because it was dramatically expedient -- it was easier to have a character interact with the computer orally (where the audience could hear what he was doing and hear the outcome in the computer voice) as opposed to via a keyboard or touch-screen where there would have to be dialogue explaining what was going on -- creating long and awkward scenes of characters monologuing about their computer actions.
Voice tech is impractical in the real world. The ability to do everything Siri / Assistant does has been around for over a decade -- it doesn't exist because there is no consumer demand for it. People prefer using mice and keyboards / touch screens.
Ironically, needing many steps (or apps) to accomplish a simple task is one of the major flaws of iOS. The apps do not work together seamlessly and seemingly menial tasks end up taking many steps using many apps. Apple manufactured this "problem" by undercooking iOS and leaving developers to fill in the many holes (which they've done excellently, btw) with sandboxed apps that don't seamlessly work together. So, now Apple's the hero for finally cleaning up their own mess?
I am dying to know what kind of voice recognition breakthrough Apple and Siri have made that would allow your phone to correctly recognize this sentence in the first try. Given millions of people who speak differently, many of whom barely have control over the english language themselves, I find it hard to believe the sentence you describe above would be accomplished using voice recognition in a smaller amount of time than it would take to do it manually.
I can see it now.....
"please send joe the entin file and let my wife know i will be home late tonight"
"police end rank'n file inlet wifi know I welcome eight tonight"
To the extent proposed? Care to give me a link to what Apple is officially claiming this can or cannot do? Knowing Apple, they're likely to severely castrate this feature.