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The phone isn’t for lengthy sessions of replying to emails etc. And imagine trying to do that while cutting half the screen off with a video. Ugh.

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To me that’s pointless. Are you actually *watching* that video as you write your response? Or is it essentially just background noise, cluttering up 25% of your screen while you attempt to write a reply?

I absolutely can watch that interview and do other stuff. Just like I can absolutely watch a show and text. Or browse the net when a live show is in commercial. That's pretty elementary stuff.

I mean why did Apple put split screen on the iPad if it's useless? You don't think people watch YouTube and do other stuff?
 
I absolutely can watch that interview and do other stuff. Just like I can absolutely watch a show and text. Or browse the net when a live show is in commercial. That's pretty elementary stuff.

I mean why did Apple put split screen on the iPad if it's useless? You don't think people watch YouTube and do other stuff?
Because the iPad has a decently large screen. I don’t know, it just feels...suboptimal to be multitasking like that on a phone.
 
Now that you have heard what you wanted to hear from everyone.... (the obvious point of your posts recently) You can quit trying to piss off everyone and start arguments. (you won't, i''ll expect to see your next thread putting down iOS etc soon)
I said I don't care if they implement it, I personally wouldn't use it. I see it as pointless to use on a PHONE. A tablet sure, and it IS implemented on the iPad.
And because I dared to post my opinion in here, you question WHY I would even bother... You asked by posting the thread, I responded. I *do* agree with you that is it missing or should be at least be considered, but it's not really needed. Neat feature, but not a dealbreaker or anything.

Outside of artwork I don't see the use of a pencil/stylus on a tablet or phone either. Ok signatures yes, or hand writing to text type stuff. But Steve Jobs was right, the finger IS the ultimate writing instrument.
 
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The excuse that it doesn't need to be an option because you wouldn't use it, or would rarely use it, is a poor argument. The vast majority of iPhone users don't use the vast majority of apps on the App Store, but that doesn't mean someone doesn't use it. There are apps on my phone I only use maybe once per year. My fax app, for an example. But if I need it, it's there. The majority of iPhone users probably don't use VoiceOver or Speak Screen, but they're there to use even if you don't have an accessibility issue that it would address.

This isn't a security issue like allowing a true filing system or multiple accounts in iOS. And this is something we know works on less powerful Apple devices, so it's not even an Android vs iOS issue. It's an iPad vs iPhone artificial differentiation issue.
 
It's weird as even on a 10.5 pro I struggle with enough space to do splitscreen never mind on a device that's 6 inch. Each to their own though

Maybe this feature comes in IOS 13 next year. However now? I will use the ipad for this....

when I get the 12.9 pro that's when the spiltscreen multitasking will be really good for certain things.
 
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The excuse that it doesn't need to be an option because you wouldn't use it, or would rarely use it, is a poor argument. The vast majority of iPhone users don't use the vast majority of apps on the App Store, but that doesn't mean someone doesn't use it. There are apps on my phone I only use maybe once per year. My fax app, for an example. But if I need it, it's there. The majority of iPhone users probably don't use VoiceOver or Speak Screen, but they're there to use even if you don't have an accessibility issue that it would address.

This isn't a security issue like allowing a true filing system or multiple accounts in iOS. And this is something we know works on less powerful Apple devices, so it's not even an Android vs iOS issue. It's an iPad vs iPhone artificial differentiation issue.
What, logical responses on Macrumors to an easy to implement feature? Madness.
I agree, why not add it.
 
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Hey. Idiots drive while texting all the time.

I’m sure there are a select few that can watch videos and carry a workflow on a phone just fine in a split window.

I welcome more features. There’s many times I am texting and watching sports on DirecTV now when I really wish I didn’t have to stop the video to comment on a game.
 
The excuse that it doesn't need to be an option because you wouldn't use it, or would rarely use it, is a poor argument. The vast majority of iPhone users don't use the vast majority of apps on the App Store, but that doesn't mean someone doesn't use it. There are apps on my phone I only use maybe once per year. My fax app, for an example. But if I need it, it's there. The majority of iPhone users probably don't use VoiceOver or Speak Screen, but they're there to use even if you don't have an accessibility issue that it would address.

This isn't a security issue like allowing a true filing system or multiple accounts in iOS. And this is something we know works on less powerful Apple devices, so it's not even an Android vs iOS issue. It's an iPad vs iPhone artificial differentiation issue.
Dual-window support is extremely different from having a rich AppStore. Dual-window support is something Apple has to devote time and energy for to build. Time and energy that could have been used for something else. And then time and energy to keep supporting it over time. In contrast, Apple didn’t build your fax app.

Take a minute and read https://www.inc.com/justin-bariso/2...le-word-that-led-to-apples-great-success.html (or any other site talking about Jobs in 1997). The ability to say no is deeply embedded in Apple. Some customers prefer companies that do a few things well. Some prefer jack of all trades master of none. If you are the latter you should run away because Apple will never satisfy you.

Oh, and that link I told you to read. Please read it in full screen, not while watching a TV show. Your brain is not wired for multitasking and you will remember much less from it. Focus.
 
Dual-window support is extremely different from having a rich AppStore. Dual-window support is something Apple has to devote time and energy for to build. Time and energy that could have been used for something else. And then time and energy to keep supporting it over time. In contrast, Apple didn’t build your fax app.

Take a minute and read https://www.inc.com/justin-bariso/2...le-word-that-led-to-apples-great-success.html (or any other site talking about Jobs in 1997). The ability to say no is deeply embedded in Apple. Some customers prefer companies that do a few things well. Some prefer jack of all trades master of none. If you are the latter you should run away because Apple will never satisfy you.

Oh, and that link I told you to read. Please read it in full screen, not while watching a TV show. Your brain is not wired for multitasking and you will remember much less from it. Focus.

Done. Read the article. And I'm pretty sure I've posted this very video on this site before, probably more than once. But, since you were focused on snark and not actually understanding the situation or bringing something constructive to the conversation, you might have missed many of the points myself and others have made.

The OP, in this thread, is not asking for a technology that Apple is killing or saying 'no' to. Nor is it something that is not fundamental to Apple's products or future; it's something they are using now. Split screen is part of iOS on the iPad. In fact, the iPhone Plus/Max phone users already have a type of split screen in the Mail, Calendar, and the Notes apps, to name a few, where in landscape mode, you have two windows, each able to scroll independently.

So again, since we have the capability to do this on our iPads, with much older, less power chips, and Apple is allowing a halfway version of split screen within apps, we are wondering why can't we do this with individual phone apps on the most powerful phone, ever? A device that some are calling the nano iPad due to the potential it has to take over even more productivity work?
 
U can pinch And zoom and make the video take up like a 1/3 of the screen. But at that point, U might as well well just watch it full screen.
 

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We've heard the same apologies when the iPads didn't have split screen. Now, it's why would I want to do it on the iPhone when I can do it on the iPad apology. No one is forcing you to use it if the feature is added.
 
We've heard the same apologies when the iPads didn't have split screen. Now, it's why would I want to do it on the iPhone when I can do it on the iPad apology. No one is forcing you to use it if the feature is added.

Have we?
Don’t think you have a point there.
 
You easily have the options for buying an Android like the Note 9. You want a phone with a stylus? Buy a Note 9. Want a budget phone? Buy Pocophone. Want IOS? Buy Apple

The market for phones is incredibly diverse and has many options. If Apple does not meet your needs there are plenty of phones that will.

And why shouldn't IOS not have multi screen? specially on XS. I think people should demand more from Apple instead of coming up with excuses.
 
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It's already a small screen and you want to split the small screen in half to watch football and surf? Just use a damn tv! I don't waste my time watching netflix on a phone when I have home theaters to use.

And ios, on ipads, does support this so the software is already there. And yes, I have used split screen on phones just to see how to do it. But it just seemed pointless to me. I rarely use it on my ipad and even then it's not something I really need.
 
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It's already a small screen and you want to split the small screen in half to watch football and surf? Just use a damn tv! I don't waste my time watching netflix on a phone when I have home theaters to use.

And ios, on ipads, does support this so the software is already there. And yes, I have used split screen on phones just to see how to do it. But it just seemed pointless to me. I rarely use it on my ipad and even then it's not something I really need.
There are people who find texting pointless, or some others who find calling pointless...doesn't really mean much for the rest.
 
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It's already a small screen and you want to split the small screen in half to watch football and surf? Just use a damn tv! I don't waste my time watching netflix on a phone when I have home theaters to use.

And ios, on ipads, does support this so the software is already there. And yes, I have used split screen on phones just to see how to do it. But it just seemed pointless to me. I rarely use it on my ipad and even then it's not something I really need.

i mean why do you even use an ipad when you have a nice computer to use? oh right, b/c its mobile. why would the feature be useful on a phone? oh right, b/c its even more mobile. i mean if you dont ever use it then dont but there are absolutely people that would. apple fans are so anti choice. its like having MORE features are somehow bad....

i always chuckle when apple fans say they dont need a feature b/c its already on another device they have to buy. lol seriously? no wonder apple is a trillion dollar company. absolute geniuses.
 
I only read the first couple pages but I’m seeing the same posts repeated, which are the same posts I see in every other missing-feature discussion thread. Some people would use it, some wouldn’t. Some who wouldn’t use it feel the need to tell people who would use it that nobody would use it, even though they don’t back it up with any market research, instead falling back on the argument that if Apple hasn’t done it then that means no one wants it—even though according to that logic that means nobody wanted copy paste on the original iPhone, nobody wanted bigger phones until iPhone 6, nobody wanted split screen iPads until iOS 9, and nobody wants an updated Mac mini. Fact is nobody knows how many people want anything unless market research has been done. All they know is what they want personally and what they’ve seen around them though that is tainted with confirmation bias. Some people here also feel the need to tell anyone who complains about the iPhone to get an android. Why resort to this sophomoric response? Everybody knows they can get an android, just like everybody (here) knows iPhones are the over-all better phone. But it’s not perfect, it always has room to grow. It’s ok to complain about it here. That’s partly why this forum exists. Trying to essentially shut people up isn’t adding to the discussion nor is it effective. People will complain. So if you want people to stop complaining here, your only hope is to use sound arguments to defend why that feature would make the iPhone worse off (telling them no one would use the feature is pointless because they already know they would use it). It might even enlighten them. If people aren’t listening, then maybe they can’t be reasoned with and anything you say is futile, or maybe your arguments aren’t sound enough.

Yes, split screen is better on iPads, but split screen is better on a 27” iMac than an iPad. Does that mean split screen shouldn’t be on the iPad? No, it should be on any size device as long as it can be of some use. Heck I have an iPhone SE and there have been a number of times when I would have found it useful (eg. friends send me silly videos that I would rather play in a thumbnail while I read up on something of more interest).

For the keyboard taking up all the screen, I agree that’s a problem and I think when the keyboard pops up the video would need to pause and minimize to a bar at the top of the screen until the keyboard goes away.


Other phone models have already solved this problem.
Is the goal for Android and iPhones all to have the same features?

Is the goal to be different for the sake of being different? Android phones and iPhones take useful features from each other all the time. This benefits consumers overall, especially people who otherwise prefer one OS over the other.
 
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It's already a small screen and you want to split the small screen in half to watch football and surf? Just use a damn tv! I don't waste my time watching netflix on a phone when I have home theaters to use.

And ios, on ipads, does support this so the software is already there. And yes, I have used split screen on phones just to see how to do it. But it just seemed pointless to me. I rarely use it on my ipad and even then it's not something I really need.

Spot on.
If apple ever offers it on the iPhone, i just won’t use it.
 
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