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Total segue but I'm not quite sure you actually did research on this, Samsung dropped Multi-Window long before Apple did.
One phablet, read the press release around nougat and they made a bug deal on the fact it was now available on all android devices.

Beyond that, did not research cause its android. Do not care what that insecure os does really.
 
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One phablet, read the press release around nougat and they made a bug deal on the fact it was now available on all android devices.

Beyond that, did not research cause its android. Do not care what that insecure os does really.

Samsung, LG, and Sony had it. But true this is an Apple focused forum and I wasn't knocking you for your obvious superiority complex with iOS just clarifying for the rest of the people.
 
I only read the first couple pages but I’m seeing the same posts repeated, which are the same posts I see in every other missing-feature discussion thread. Some people would use it, some wouldn’t. Some who wouldn’t use it feel the need to tell people who would use it that nobody would use it, even though they don’t back it up with any market research, instead falling back on the argument that if Apple hasn’t done it then that means no one wants it—even though according to that logic that means nobody wanted copy paste on the original iPhone, nobody wanted bigger phones until iPhone 6, nobody wanted split screen iPads until iOS 9, and nobody wants an updated Mac mini. Fact is nobody knows how many people want anything unless market research has been done. All they know is what they want personally and what they’ve seen around them though that is tainted with confirmation bias. Some people here also feel the need to tell anyone who complains about the iPhone to get an android. Why resort to this sophomoric response? Everybody knows they can get an android, just like everybody (here) knows iPhones are the over-all better phone. But it’s not perfect, it always has room to grow. It’s ok to complain about it here. That’s partly why this forum exists. Trying to essentially shut people up isn’t adding to the discussion nor is it effective. People will complain. So if you want people to stop complaining here, your only hope is to use sound arguments to defend why that feature would make the iPhone worse off (telling them no one would use the feature is pointless because they already know they would use it). It might even enlighten them. If people aren’t listening, then maybe they can’t be reasoned with and anything you say is futile, or maybe your arguments aren’t sound enough.

Yes, split screen is better on iPads, but split screen is better on a 27” iMac than an iPad. Does that mean split screen shouldn’t be on the iPad? No, it should be on any size device as long as it can be of some use. Heck I have an iPhone SE and there have been a number of times when I would have found it useful (eg. friends send me silly videos that I would rather play in a thumbnail while I read up on something of more interest).

For the keyboard taking up all the screen, I agree that’s a problem and I think when the keyboard pops up the video would need to pause and minimize to a bar at the top of the screen until the keyboard goes away.




Is the goal to be different for the sake of being different? Android phones and iPhones take useful features from each other all the time. This benefits consumers overall, especially people who otherwise prefer one OS over the other.
Well said.
 
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Just last night i was using my Max and this would have definitely been useful. I was watching the MNF game on the espn app and checking my fantasy or texting someone. Every time I had to click off the espn app, the game would have to reload and kind of glitch, requiring me to restart the app. I can think of a lot of scenarios where this could be useful. Just my two cents.
 
Samsung, LG, and Sony had it. But true this is an Apple focused forum and I wasn't knocking you for your obvious superiority complex with iOS just clarifying for the rest of the people.
Because i pointed out that almost all virus/malware is aimed at android?
I dont follow android because its not at all secure. I read the press release for nougat, which made a big deal about how split screen has come to android...
 
I don't think Apple would allow this experience on a small screen because it is a less than ideal experience. This is why iPhones are considered higher end that Android phones, they just throw anything on there and whatever sticks, great. Everything that's on the iPhones is well thought out.
 
Honestly i'd like to see usage data on split screen.
How many actually use it, and not a one time thing.

Me personally i've done it once or twice on my iPad, but it's kinda meh for me.
65" TV or half an ipad?
99% of the time i'm using the ipad it's in the house, it does go with me on vacation.. but I go to the woods, I have no internet anyway.

I use it occasionally on the iPad but would never use it on the iPhone. Screen is too small, for that.

Also have a 65 inch tv it’s plasma, not giving that up. But much easier to airplay to the tv then split screen the phone.

Also have a 65 inch oled for 4K and Dolby vision, but I still prefer the plasma.
 
I would love for iOS 13 to get mobile PiP mode and split-screen multi-tasking. Helps with some nice app usage combos. The Note series is the perfect option for this right now though. I don't use it enough to force myself to use Android or Samsung's software. I just want a phone that works well daily right now and that is buttery smooth.
 
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how else would they get you to buy the iPhone XI? they will announce it next year as a groundbreaking new feature only available to the iPhone XI like the greedy jacka$$3$ that they are.
 
Just last night i was using my Max and this would have definitely been useful. I was watching the MNF game on the espn app and checking my fantasy or texting someone. Every time I had to click off the espn app, the game would have to reload and kind of glitch, requiring me to restart the app. I can think of a lot of scenarios where this could be useful. Just my two cents.
Exactly.
 
PIP like on the iPad would be a better solution for that where closing the video app to do something else and restarting the stream issue. Simply minimize it go to the other app while it keeps playing and go back.

Split screen is a poor user experience even at 6.5", been there tried it. It crops apps and makes both rather unusable without tons of scrolling. Split screen on a 9.7" iPad isnt even ideal.

Split screen with a notch would be even less ideal and not work very well.
 
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You guys sound ridiculous. Not everyone is always around their 65" TV. Not everyone struggles to see on a phone screen. Not everyone has an iPad to use split screen with. It's obvious at this time Apple has decided its not a feature they're going to include, but I guarantee if they introduced iPhone split screen in a future update you all would be praising them for it. Having the feature doesn't mean you have to use it. Features are good.

The exact argument could be used for 3rd party keyboards, message quick reply, or any other number of features that were available on Android before Apple decided to implement them. I don't feel the desire to use a 3rd party keyboard, but I'm glad Apple has that option because others find it useful.
 
Other phone models have already solved this problem.
Is the goal for Android and iPhones all to have the same features?
You have a hard time understanding that there are features others want in the iOS world that you may not desire

What’s wrong with requesting features? Why are you quick to tell people to jump platforms? By that logic apple would never have added copy and paste or mms as Android already had it...
 
You have a hard time understanding that there are features others want in the iOS world that you may not desire

What’s wrong with requesting features? Why are you quick to tell people to jump platforms? By that logic apple would never have added copy and paste or mms as Android already had it...
I agree with you and it’s a legitimate & on-topic question.
 
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My question is why can't the Max show my unread email list next to an email view without having to swipe it over first. In messages the view is always split, why not mail and notes? Seems completely arbitrary, but stupidly annoying and makes landscape worthless on Apple's largest iPhone. Why does the Plus allow it but not the Max?

Also after 4 years of Plus models, I don't know how we don't have picture in picture for video.

It seems like Apple's software teams just can't keep up with the hardware teams anymore. Even on the new Apple Watch they are missing software features (Like a complication for messages/email/stopwatch on the new watch face.)
 
My question is why can't the Max show my unread email list next to an email view without having to swipe it over first. In messages the view is always split, why not mail and notes? Seems completely arbitrary, but stupidly annoying and makes landscape worthless on Apple's largest iPhone. Why does the Plus allow it but not the Max?

Also after 4 years of Plus models, I don't know how we don't have picture in picture for video.

It seems like Apple's software teams just can't keep up with the hardware teams anymore. Even on the new Apple Watch they are missing software features (Like a complication for messages/email/stopwatch on the new watch face.)
Can you elaborate on the Unread? On my 8+ I can select Unread and see the list of unread emails to the left of the selected email.
 
Can you elaborate on the Unread? On my 8+ I can select Unread and see the list of unread emails to the left of the selected email.

What I mean is that in messages in landscape, when you open the app you see two columns. If you tap on a message, it opens on the right side of the screen, but the list stays visible on the left and never goes away.

In mail on the Max, when you flip to landscape, the single email view takes up the entire screen width. You then have to tap the back arrow in the top left or swipe from the left to see your list of emails. When you tap on an email in the list, the list goes away and the email takes up the whole screen. On the plus it shows the list all the time. I hate that apple did this, as it is incredibly stupid given the Max is wider than the plus in landscape, even accounting for the notch.
 
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What I mean is that in messages in landscape, when you open the app you see two columns. If you tap on a message, it opens on the right side of the screen, but the list stays visible on the left and never goes away.

In mail on the Max, when you flip to landscape, the single email view takes up the entire screen width. You then have to tap the back arrow in the top left or swipe from the left to see your list of emails. When you tap on an email in the list, the list goes away and the email takes up the whole screen. On the plus it shows the list all the time. I hate that apple did this, as it is incredibly stupid given the Max is wider than the plus in landscape, even accounting for the notch.
That is not cool.
 
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You guys sound ridiculous. Not everyone is always around their 65" TV. Not everyone struggles to see on a phone screen. Not everyone has an iPad to use split screen with. It's obvious at this time Apple has decided its not a feature they're going to include, but I guarantee if they introduced iPhone split screen in a future update you all would be praising them for it. Having the feature doesn't mean you have to use it. Features are good.

The exact argument could be used for 3rd party keyboards, message quick reply, or any other number of features that were available on Android before Apple decided to implement them. I don't feel the desire to use a 3rd party keyboard, but I'm glad Apple has that option because others find it useful.

It's called Apple Apologismitis, very common disease that can spread.
 
You easily have the options for buying an Android like the Note 9. You want a phone with a stylus? Buy a Note 9. Want a budget phone? Buy Pocophone. Want IOS? Buy Apple

The market for phones is incredibly diverse and has many options. If Apple does not meet your needs there are plenty of phones that will.
And all of them are equally capable of providing a modern experience. We are no longer stuck in 2010 when smartphones were so limited.
 
You guys sound ridiculous. Not everyone is always around their 65" TV. Not everyone struggles to see on a phone screen. Not everyone has an iPad to use split screen with. It's obvious at this time Apple has decided its not a feature they're going to include, but I guarantee if they introduced iPhone split screen in a future update you all would be praising them for it. Having the feature doesn't mean you have to use it. Features are good.

The exact argument could be used for 3rd party keyboards, message quick reply, or any other number of features that were available on Android before Apple decided to implement them. I don't feel the desire to use a 3rd party keyboard, but I'm glad Apple has that option because others find it useful.

I guess I don’t see the argument to a degree. Would it be a useful feature? Yes, for some people. For everyone? No probably not. I think most would consider it a nice to have feature, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I’d imagine Apple planned on PIP for iOS 12, but it was pushed back to focus on performance. For me, I’d take performance over PIP. No, Apple doesn’t have every feature that’s out there and the hardware is certainly capable, but you need to prioritize when you’re dealing with hundreds of millions of users across many different devices with an OS release. No knock on the feature, I’m sure it would be useful, just not that critical.
 
I guess I don’t see the argument to a degree. Would it be a useful feature? Yes, for some people. For everyone? No probably not. I think most would consider it a nice to have feature, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I’d imagine Apple planned on PIP for iOS 12, but it was pushed back to focus on performance. For me, I’d take performance over PIP. No, Apple doesn’t have every feature that’s out there and the hardware is certainly capable, but you need to prioritize when you’re dealing with hundreds of millions of users across many different devices with an OS release. No knock on the feature, I’m sure it would be useful, just not that critical.

I agree, people forget iOS 12 as it is now is not what it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be the full rework, halted due to iOS 11 issues, which will now come next year in iOS 13

CLEARLY, iOS is capable of split screen and PIP from the iPad and its baked into the OS. If you cannot wait to see what 13 brings for the iPhone, then the suggestion to move onto Android is your sole choice here. There is no choice C.
 
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I love how people try to make the OP feel like their wants aren't valid with the lame "then get an Android" response. Plenty of people want Split Screen on an iPhone, that doesn't mean they want to make the change over to Android. It means they would like that feature on the best phone on the market. "It makes the usable space smaller" isn't even a valid argument. We all lived perfectly happy lives doing our daily routine on a 3.5 inch, 480x320 screen when the 3GS was the phone everyone had to have. I'd LOVE to be able to continue watching a video and check my twitter feed, messages, or even use it for copy/paste between 2 different windows ON AN IPHONE...not some crappy Note9 filled with bloatware that can't even get the latest updates until months after they're released. Even if that means the usable space is temporarily smaller. People who continuously post "We want dark mode" aren't met with a bunch of people telling them "then get an Android" (though i do see it sometimes, lol).
 
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