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There is one aspect for which iOS 7 could be called "flat" - there's a lack of gradient shading. There's little attempt to make the UI elements (icons, controls, views, etc.) look like they are physical objects with 3D depth via artificial shadows.

You might also call the iOS 7 design philosophy "borderless." The delete button is now red text that says "Delete." The weather app now just presents the weather, rather than putting a border around it as if it's a physical card that must be fit within the screen dimensions. That's not consistent throughout the UI though - there are still button elements that have borders around them (in Control Center for example.)

I'm thinking this might be an mistake on Apple's part. In the WWDC presentation on their new design, they talk about how they mimicked physical objects because that's what people are used to handling via their fingers. People intuitively knew how to operate the iPhone because it mimicked how they interacted with real-world objects. In the WWDC presentation, they said that they no longer need to do that because people are now familiar with how to interact with digital objects, and they no longer need the physical object cues. That's true for most of the current iOS users but it's not true for everybody. One of the things that made iOS so great to use is you could pick it up and start using it right away, without having to read a manual. Back in 2007, compared to the alternatives available, it was a mind-blowing experience to use an iPhone. Even today, you could give it to somebody who had never used a computer and they could understand it well enough to get around. But now? With Apple deliberately removing those queues because "we" know how to use digital devices? I dunno. It's hard to put myself into the shoes of somebody who's never used a computer, plus I haven't used iOS 7 personally, but I wonder if they'd have a difficult time getting things done - which, I suspect, will hurt Apple's sales of iOS devices.

But then, maybe Apple has worked in some hints to our intuition on how to operate the OS. I dunno. Time will tell.
 
I don't think it's possible to really have this conversation with someone who would say this.

Look at Yahoo's iOS weather app. Look at Windows 8. Look at Facebook. Look at Android.
Then look at Windows XP, Mac OS Tiger, iTunes 1-4, and iOS 6.

It's pretty clear that all of these things can be clearly divided into 2 halves and that one half is the past and one is the future. Can you not see the differences there?

There are certainly things I would have done differenlty in iOS 7, but I at least recognize the need for Apple to change. If you can't even see that need then I don't have any common ground with you to even start a conversation over.

Okay then, I guess we can't have a conversation. :D

I mean, I can see the difference between the two groups, but I don't think that the new looks are better. To me, they don't feel like the future, just a new fad that I hope will die away sooner than later.

We should check back here in about five years to see who was right. ;)
 
Okay then, I guess we can't have a conversation. :D

I mean, I can see the difference between the two groups, but I don't think that the new looks are better. To me, they don't feel like the future, just a new fad that I hope will die away sooner than later.

We should check back here in about five years to see who was right. ;)

Maybe that's where the flaw lies... NOONE is "right", and yet people make this mistake time and again, in internet debates.
 
But now? With Apple deliberately removing those queues because "we" know how to use digital devices? I dunno. It's hard to put myself into the shoes of somebody who's never used a computer, plus I haven't used iOS 7 personally, but I wonder if they'd have a difficult time getting things done - which, I suspect, will hurt Apple's sales of iOS devices.

Exactly. I don't think those who feel comfortable using digital devices without analog cues are the majority of the population yet. Apple has sometimes cut old technologies before people were quite ready to move on, but this time what they are doing is cutting off a big portion of their users, counting them out as not important.

But then, maybe Apple has worked in some hints to our intuition on how to operate the OS.

Not that I've noticed!
 
Okay then, I guess we can't have a conversation. :D

I mean, I can see the difference between the two groups, but I don't think that the new looks are better. To me, they don't feel like the future, just a new fad that I hope will die away sooner than later.

We should check back here in about five years to see who was right. ;)

You're misunderstanding how this works.

'Good' and 'Bad' aren't the point here, being a part of the larger design community is.

Takes a 1950 Cadillac. It's an amazing piece of work. But take a time machine and try to sell it in 1930 or 1980 or 2050 and it just won't work. It belongs in a world with 1950's vacuums, refrigerators, and train locomotives. That's the world in which it makes sense.

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So you can't "come back in 5 years" after that car and say "See! It doesn't fit in any more! I was right." Of course it doesn't. That's the point. And Windows XP doesn't fit in now. And iOS 7 won't fit in by 2020. None of that means they're fads. It just means that what fits in keeps changing.

ALL design changes. If you define that as a "fad" well, ok, but then literally everything that's ever been built has been a fad. I don't think that's a useful way of looking at things.
 
Maybe that's where the flaw lies... NOONE is "right", and yet people make this mistake time and again, in internet debates.

Well, I hope I haven't come off as saying I'm right -- I'm just saying that *for me*, iOS 7 UI is harder to use than iOS 6.

ALL design changes. If you define that as a "fad" well, ok, but then literally everything that's ever been built has been a fad. I don't think that's a useful way of looking at things.

Well, you're talking to someone who wears clothes that have belonged to my mother, and even some things that have been handed down from my grandmother, so, we might just have different standards about how long things should last to not be counted as a fad.

I kind of see what you mean, but the reason I don't use XP anymore is because Win 7 works better, not because XP's style no longer fits in. Those devices you posted pictures of do look old-fashioned, but if they were the best for a task I had to do today, I wouldn't hesitate to use them.
 
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we might just have different standards about how long things should last to not be counted as a fad.

Well, real-world items have a totally different time scale than digital design so I don't think clothing or cars can be used to measure how long a computer design should last. Those are good analogies, but they're not literal 1-to-1 road maps.

iOS 6 is the tail end of the era started by Windows 95 and Mac OS System 7. That's a digital design era of well over 15 years which is an eternity in the tech field.

I think that length of time was an aberration. I don't expect the Windows 8/Android/iOS 7 era to last that long. The hardware will change too quickly and something else will have to happen to work on that hardware.
 
Well, real-world items have a totally different time scale than digital design so I don't think clothing or cars can be used to measure how long a computer design should last. Those are good analogies, but they're not literal 1-to-1 road maps.

iOS 6 is the tail end of the era started by Windows 95 and Mac OS System 7. That's a digital design era of well over 15 years which is an eternity in the tech field.

I think that length of time was an aberration. I don't expect the Windows 8/Android/iOS 7 era to last that long. The hardware will change too quickly and something else will have to happen to work on that hardware.

Out of curiosity, do you see OS X drastically changing its design soon?
 
There is such a disparity of 'design' / whatever you want to call it between OSX and iOS since 7. Even though a mobile OS is different, ios6 worked and 7 is lifeless, soulless as a white sheet. Hard to read, not easy to use for first timers unlike 6. Confusing as there is so much txt to read and process opposed to icons. I have to read an essay now to find out the weather when I want a picture of the sun. I have to scroll endlessly and look at space for my upcoming calendar appointments in notification centre. It's a big step backwards in usability AND design.

If they made it look like OSX, at least it would be more intuitive. Ios 7 looks like it was made by a cheap google knockoff company that tried to sell fake phones on ebay.
 
Out of curiosity, do you see OS X drastically changing its design soon?

Not really. I think that smartphones, tablets, tvs, and wearable computers are all going to keep changing and the software will have to keep up. (A lot of iOS 7's choices, for example, are based on the fact that the iPhone has a retina screen. What happens when you have a bendable watch or a foldable smart phone? Hardware changes will drive on-screen design changes for the foreseeable future.)

But compared to all that, both desktop and laptop computers aren't going to change very fast at all. The desktop computer is attaining 'jetliner' or 'microwave' status. Locked in their basic form, minor cosmetic changes are all that's left for them in the near future.

When the hardware has nowhere to go, the GUI design will slow down as well.
 
This thread is ridiculous. The OP is doing exactly what individuals like Jony Ive are vehemently against - confusing design with ornamentation.

Design is not about fancy colours and textures and other aesthetic features; it is about how something actually works. It's about functionality. Yes, colours and textures are important to functionality in many cases, but the look of the OS is not the endgame; the functionality is.

Saying that iOS 7 lacks design because it's mostly white would be like saying than iPhones and iPads lack design because they're basically just one big screen. That perception is factually incorrect. These aspects of the software and hardware don't demonstrate a lack of design; they are the design! That's the purpose. Simplicity and lack of ornamentation is exactly what Apple strives for.

Now, one can critique iOS 7 and say that certain aspects of it could be better implemented, but to say that it lacks design is patently incorrect and demonstrates a severe misunderstanding of what design actually is.
Great post. Also what people seem to be forgetting is Apple did all of this in about 8 months. It's not finished by a long shot. Sure Apple could have waited another year and just given us the iOS 6 look with new functionality. But that probably would have received just as many complaints. With iOS 7 I think it's going to take time for people to get used to (and for Apple to get it where they really want it to be).
 
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You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means. As heyyoudvd pointed out, design is so much more than just eye candy. It's how something works, and this looks to be incredibly well-designed. For example: a live clock icon, the new animations in the weather app that reflect on the current conditions, extensive use of translucency, and all of that stuff. If your perception of design is merely sugar for the eyes, then I'm sure Samsung would be able to service your request. Because TouchWiz seems to be a reflection of your idea. Samsung have a habit of overdoing and over engineering.

Get over it, you're overreacting. You're no different to the other users who don't like the new look. They have a design, they have new principles, and yes, they have added depth to it. Sorry you didn't notice it.
 
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This thread is ridiculous. The OP is doing exactly what individuals like Jony Ive are vehemently against - confusing design with ornamentation.

Design is not about fancy colours and textures and other aesthetic features; it is about how something actually works. It's about functionality. Yes, colours and textures are important to functionality in many cases, but the look of the OS is not the endgame; the functionality is.

Saying that iOS 7 lacks design because it's mostly white would be like saying than iPhones and iPads lack design because they're basically just one big screen. That perception is factually incorrect. These aspects of the software and hardware don't demonstrate a lack of design; they are the design! That's the purpose. Simplicity and lack of ornamentation is exactly what Apple strives for.

Now, one can critique iOS 7 and say that certain aspects of it could be better implemented, but to say that it lacks design is patently incorrect and demonstrates a severe misunderstanding of what design actually is.

A solid comment. I think you understand what design is. The OP's perception of design seems to be the presence of fancy textures and colours. He seems to be one of those people who prefer eye candy over a well-designed UI

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Something some people can't fathom.

Really, that comment was very self-centred and was a dazzling display of arrogance.
 
Really, that comment was very self-centred and was a dazzling display of arrogance.
Me stating that some people fail to realize that others have differing opinions is a "dazzling display of arrogance"? Put down the pipe.
 
I don't think you accounted for the fact that people have their own opinions.

If only good, usable design was created from opinions … you might be right. In design there are rules too.

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You're misunderstanding how this works.

'Good' and 'Bad' aren't the point here, being a part of the larger design community is.

Takes a 1950 Cadillac. It's an amazing piece of work. But take a time machine and try to sell it in 1930 or 1980 or 2050 and it just won't work. It belongs in a world with 1950's vacuums, refrigerators, and train locomotives. That's the world in which it makes sense.

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So you can't "come back in 5 years" after that car and say "See! It doesn't fit in any more! I was right." Of course it doesn't. That's the point. And Windows XP doesn't fit in now. And iOS 7 won't fit in by 2020. None of that means they're fads. It just means that what fits in keeps changing.

ALL design changes. If you define that as a "fad" well, ok, but then literally everything that's ever been built has been a fad. I don't think that's a useful way of looking at things.

All these are vintage.
 
You're misunderstanding how this works.

'Good' and 'Bad' aren't the point here, being a part of the larger design community is.

Takes a 1950 Cadillac. It's an amazing piece of work. But take a time machine and try to sell it in 1930 or 1980 or 2050 and it just won't work. It belongs in a world with 1950's vacuums, refrigerators, and train locomotives. That's the world in which it makes sense.

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So you can't "come back in 5 years" after that car and say "See! It doesn't fit in any more! I was right." Of course it doesn't. That's the point. And Windows XP doesn't fit in now. And iOS 7 won't fit in by 2020. None of that means they're fads. It just means that what fits in keeps changing.

ALL design changes. If you define that as a "fad" well, ok, but then literally everything that's ever been built has been a fad. I don't think that's a useful way of looking at things.

Your talking about a car that demands premiums in 6 digit figures. Less is more in design. No one wants to date the person with their body covered in tattoos. Well some do but nobody likes them. I choose modern contemporary design and understand exactly where apple is going. If its not to your liking jump off land on your multi colored couch in your room filled with stuff.
 

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Your talking about a car that demands premiums in 6 digit figures.

I'm talking about a car that cost about $3,500 back in 1950 which is about $35,000 in today's money.

Not that any of that has anything to do with my point, but even if it did your facts are off.


If its not to your liking

What are you basing that comment on? I don't recall saying anything specific about iOS 7 at all.
 
I'm talking about a car that cost about $3,500 back in 1950 which is about $35,000 in today's money.

Not that any of that has anything to do with my point, but even if it did your facts are off.




What are you basing that comment on? I don't recall saying anything specific about iOS 7 at all.

Try to buy that car for $35,000.
 
I don't hate the removal of the design. I just don't understand why they did it.

Other than green felt in game center, there was nothing wrong with iOS 6's design. Sure a few things could be cleaned up here and there but removing the design altogether? Why...? And BTW, I'll take green felt over translucent, flourescent circles any day.

I think iOS 7 doesn't look "bad" or anything, though it sucks that my app is going to look like it too now since I use system APIs to draw my interface. Time to design my own button graphics I guess.

I can live with the lack of design, but the white has to be made customizable. At night, I don't like all the white. They need to give you the option to set the UI to another color than white, for use in the dark. It's too bright. It messes with melatonin production in the brain. Many studies have shown this. And I work with photos mostly so "invert colors" is not an option. Even at minimum brightness, white is too bright as a main shade of the interface. They need to do like Adobe CS6 and allow a change of the interface shade.

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You are the troll. I just asked a simple question: why did they remove design from iOS 7? I am honestly curious.

Instead of trying to offer an answer, you attack my integrity and call me names. Typical trolling behavior.

Ok, mr designer, what's your app? We would all like to critique it.

Also, Apple did not remove the design, they changed it. If you don't like it fair enough but opinions are like belly buttons and as the saying goes “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.
 
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