iPad Why do Safari tabs keep reloading on my iPad Air?

[adamgbiggs]

My iPhone 5 does this often, it's not new to the Air/rMini, but I wish it didn't do it, it would be nice to refresh the page page when WE want it refreshed, still, I can't wait to get my Air.

Adam.

 

[Count Blah]

No, it wouldn't. More RAM would mitigate the issue until that RAM buffer was also full and then you would have the exact same issue. You can believe that Apple did this for $3/unit profit, but that's an awful simplistic viewpoint. Adding RAM doesn't necessarily make things better when you can see the whole picture.

Yes, and until an additional gig of ram was fully used, it wouldn't be a problem. It just depends on how much memory is leaking. If the air is operating on a reason thin margin of ram, then the additional memory would help a heck of a lot. Given browser ram footprints in OS X, I doubt the fix is going to be timely, nor will it be all encompassing.

 

[a042349]

Try using a Windows tablet like the Surface Pro. Despite far more computing power and 4x the RAM, the overall experience isn't even as smooth as what you get on an iPad. Scrolling, multitasking, wake from sleep, etc. all are not as good. So while Apple may have pushed the boundaries this time, realize that there are sound reasons for not just giving an unlimited amount of RAM to work with.

As others have pointed out already I think you're wrong about this. I have owned an iPad 1,2 and 4 and a Mini (still own those last two). My wife and I both use and love our iPhones, so I'm not an Apple basher or a troll. However about three weeks ago I bought the Asus T100 Transformer running full Windows 8 with only the newer Atom Baytrail and 2GB of RAM.

I paid $379 for it with the keyboard clamshell in the 64GB size.

My experience has been nothing lees than phenomenal. I use Chrome, with about a dozen extensions and can have 10-15 tabs open and NEVER get tab reloading, and can't recall a real browser crash. We both get the "reload" problem on our iPad's (4 and mini) and it happened on both iOS 6 and 7, on Chrome and Safari. I would safely say there is NO comparison between the iPad/Asus in this area. One is a full fledged PC, with a desktop caliber browser, and one is not. Scrolling, multitasking, waking up from sleep, etc are all REALLY good. Snappy, smooth and stable. Heck it boots from stone cold dead in under 15 seconds. My mini takes over a minute to do that.

Now I'll also agree that the app store on each is night and day (although for what I do on a tablet, a good browser covers 75%), the screen touch response could better, and it takes forever to charge. Then again, I can dock it, and use real MS Office, Civ 5 and (wait for it...) sync my iPad/iPhone to it on the installed iTunes. 🙂

I still think the my mini is one of the coolest, sexiest piece of tech going. It's got 3G so for that alone it fill a niche my new tablet can't. But these new Windows 8 tablets (with a finger friendly front end, and a desktop when you need/want it), are going to be a serious challenge to both iOS and Android.

 

[zhenya]

As others have pointed out already I think you're wrong about this. I have owned an iPad 1,2 and 4 and a Mini (still own those last two). My wife and I both use and love our iPhones, so I'm not an Apple basher or a troll. However about three weeks ago I bought the Asus T100 Transformer running full Windows 8 with only the newer Atom Baytrail and 2GB of RAM.

I paid $379 for it with the keyboard clamshell in the 64GB size.

My experience has been nothing lees than phenomenal. I use Chrome, with about a dozen extensions and can have 10-15 tabs open and NEVER get tab reloading, and can't recall a real browser crash. We both get the "reload" problem on our iPad's (4 and mini) and it happened on both iOS 6 and 7, on Chrome and Safari. I would safely say there is NO comparison between the iPad/Asus in this area. One is a full fledged PC, with a desktop caliber browser, and one is not. Scrolling, multitasking, waking up from sleep, etc are all REALLY good. Snappy, smooth and stable. Heck it boots from stone cold dead in under 15 seconds. My mini takes over a minute to do that.

Now I'll also agree that the app store on each is night and day (although for what I do on a tablet, a good browser covers 75%), the screen touch response could better, and it takes forever to charge. Then again, I can dock it, and use real MS Office, Civ 5 and (wait for it...) sync my iPad/iPhone to it on the installed iTunes. 🙂

I still think the my mini is one of the coolest, sexiest piece of tech going. It's got 3G so for that alone it fill a niche my new tablet can't. But these new Windows 8 tablets (with a finger friendly front end, and a desktop when you need/want it), are going to be a serious challenge to both iOS and Android.

I have a Surface Pro and owned a Thinkpad Tablet 2 for a while. No, you won't get tab reloading, but you will have all sorts of other, smaller delays, whether it's scrolling that isn't as smooth, the normal bevy of Windows updates, or the wait for the device to resume from sleep if it's been more than an hour or two since last use. Overall the ipad is a way better appliance. I really don't care about being able to run my office programs on a tablet when my ultra book is a better interface for that work. And the Windows Store is still a complete joke. You have an extremely few apps from big names, and then everything else is a hack put together by a 3rd rate developer with 2 star ratings that they really deserve.

Try to find a gmail app, or a browser other than IE that can actually integrate with your settings outside of that specific device.

 

[drew0020]

Safari is terrible on both of my iPads. Definitely needs an update. I use chrome now but miss the back/forward gestures in Safari.

 

[a042349]

I have a Surface Pro and owned a Thinkpad Tablet 2 for a while. No, you won't get tab reloading, but you will have all sorts of other, smaller delays, whether it's scrolling that isn't as smooth, the normal bevy of Windows updates, or the wait for the device to resume from sleep if it's been more than an hour or two since last use. Overall the ipad is a way better appliance. I really don't care about being able to run my office programs on a tablet when my ultra book is a better interface for that work. And the Windows Store is still a complete joke. You have an extremely few apps from big names, and then everything else is a hack put together by a 3rd rate developer with 2 star ratings that they really deserve.

Try to find a gmail app, or a browser other than IE that can actually integrate with your settings outside of that specific device.

Scrolling is nearly as smooth on my T100 as on my iPad 4 and my mini in my full Chrome browser, and ABSOLUTELY as smooth app-switching, starting new apps, etc. The trick for Chrome is their Canary Browser, it's their fully tablet optimized version, it's what's coming soon for regular Chrome, and it works great. It also runs in it's own profile so you can use production Chrome along side it. It blows ANY iOS browser out of the water cause it is a FULL desktop class browser, full extension support (AdBlock, HoverZoom, etc).

As for your wake up delays. I'm pretty sure the Haswell chipset in the Surface Pro's don't support connected standby. I've never had my system delay at all when I wake it. Open it up any time and it's instantly ready to go.

So I get full integration/syncing to my Google app ecosystem (Gmail, Docs, Calendar, Contacts, Drive, etc) as good as iOS or in some cases better (file management w/Drive for instance).

Windows updates? Yup. But any ultrabook has these too. I realize it's not an "appliance" but it is one device that for me can function as a PC AND an appliance. In iOS my most used apps are the following: Browser, Flipboard, Mail, Calendar, Reddit (reader), Kindle, Office type app, Photo app, Plex, Netflix, and a few games. Every one of these exist as good or better in a Windows format. All are touch optimized, fast and smooth - and they're only getting better and more will be coming.

"...Overall the ipad is a way better appliance. I really don't care about being able to run my office programs on a tablet when my ultra book is a better interface for that work..."

And on this comment let me say this: What if I told you my "appliance" becomes that "better interface" for that work when I snap on the keyboard and turn on my BT mouse? Hey I've loved using my iPads but you and I both know there are times while you're using it when you say "I'll deal with that later when I'm on my laptop/desktop" cause either you can't do "that" on an iPad or if you did it'd be convoluted and a PITA. Well for the first time in my tablet swiping days - I can now do THAT, whatever "that" is, whenever I want to.

Now is a Windows 8 device perfect? Of course not. Does it fit the needs of everybody? Nope. But for me, having the touch optimized consumption apps, and a full desktop of production apps (Photoshop runs great on this) when I need/want them means one device does everything I need. I'm not trying to convince/convert anybody, just pointing out that some of the earlier impressions of Win8 slates are no longer as relevant as it was 12 months ago.

Ask most iPad users if they'd like to be able to snap on a keyboard w/trackpd and hit an icon and drop into a fully functional OSX environment and I bet a few would want that, maybe not all, but some. I'm one of those right now, and I think it's going to get more and more popular as they refine and improve it, and the ecosystem.

Again, not sure yet if I'll move away from the iPad fully (nothing's going on Craigslist just yet) but I'm seeing a different perspective here, and it's interesting.

 

[zhenya]

Ask most iPad users if they'd like to be able to snap on a keyboard w/trackpd and hit an icon and drop into a fully functional OSX environment and I bet a few would want that, maybe not all, but some. I'm one of those right now, and I think it's going to get more and more popular as they refine and improve it, and the ecosystem.

Again, not sure yet if I'll move away from the iPad fully (nothing's going on Craigslist just yet) but I'm seeing a different perspective here, and it's interesting.

I think that many would say that until they actually had it and then realized that tablets that bring that much power to the table are actually less effective as computing appliances as they bring those aforementioned issues with them. Part of the appeal of the ipad is precisely that it's not a traditional computer.

Is there value in combining devices at times? Absolutely - our smartphones are the poster child for this. But in far more cases, combining two devices into one gives you the worst of both devices without giving you much other than a little bit of convenience in return. Apple is doing a great job of improving the productivity capabilities of the ipad, and I don't doubt that we will continue to be able to do more and more work from them. I do doubt that I'll ever choose to use one as my primary portable work computer though because the screen size that is ideal for an ipad is never going to be ideal for a laptop.

 

[a042349]

I think that many would say that until they actually had it and then realized that tablets that bring that much power to the table are actually less effective as computing appliances as they bring those aforementioned issues with them. Part of the appeal of the ipad is precisely that it's not a traditional computer.

Is there value in combining devices at times? Absolutely - our smartphones are the poster child for this. But in far more cases, combining two devices into one gives you the worst of both devices without giving you much other than a little bit of convenience in return. Apple is doing a great job of improving the productivity capabilities of the ipad, and I don't doubt that we will continue to be able to do more and more work from them. I do doubt that I'll ever choose to use one as my primary portable work computer though because the screen size that is ideal for an ipad is never going to be ideal for a laptop.

You make some good points, and this is a fun discussion. What's really great is that we have these cool devices, to use AND discuss with other enthusiasts.

One last point I'll make is cost. Your iPad/Ultrabook scenario, while ideal in some ways, loses out big time in cost. A decent iPad and a decent Ultrabook will likely cost $1000-1500 depending on options. My T100 cost me $379 + $50 (64GB SD card). For many people, having one device, that costs 1/3 of having 2 is pretty important.

For the first time (IMHO) there are devices (Win8) that give you very viable replacements for iPad/Android tablets (finger friendly, long battery life, low cost, low weight, etc) AND a full blown desktop PC. Add a monitor (or four), keyboard and mouse and you've got a real computer.

Take a look at this video of a device that costs as much as a non-retina mini acting like a full sized PC. I really think this is going to be the future of not only tablets, but our phones too. One device, that has the processor, memory, video and ports that performs all three roles - phone, tablet, PC. It may not be the right device for everybody. But I'll sure have one! 🙂

 

[Madmischief]

must be errors chaps

Hi Guys

I must chime in and say I don't get this with mine which is wi-fi 32GB.

It can open 10+ tabs and swap between them with rarely a crash.

I suggest you take it back and good luck with the replacement.

Hope that helps ...

 

[baypharm]

Safari is terrible on both of my iPads. Definitely needs an update. I use chrome now but miss the back/forward gestures in Safari.

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[thugsam]

found something about those reloading page

hi guys i created a new account just to share what i found to make my safari tab sweet and clean transition no more reload everytime you switch tab on ipad air 7.0.4 !!! but you need evasion 7 and icleaner from cydia ... is it ok talking about jb on this forum ?? anyway i was almost going to bring back my new ipad air cause this was really annoying me!! now its all good i foud this by trying ios 7 compatible tweak! thanks to evasion team ios 7 jb launched today !!! hope that will help some guys out there ......

 

[s2mikey]

I've owned a Surface Pro since day 1. It's a reasonable effort from Microsoft, and I've grown to kind of like it, but it's ultimately become my 'meeting' computer as I feel obligated to use it somehow. I really, really don't care about Flash on my tablet. I have a laptop that is far better than the Surface as a workhorse, and an Ipad is light years ahead as a tablet. Why have a subpar experience every time I use it instead of using the best tool for the job?

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Yeah, the touch accuracy is nothing to write home about. Nor is the fact that Internet Explorer is the only browser in tablet-world, and it's completely isolated from every other browser on the planet. When literally every other browser I use on any device stays in sync this is a mind boggling oversight. How about trying to find a decent PDF markup tool in the Store? nothing that works worth a damn. I've been waiting over a year now and the situation has only improved slightly. Every app I look for is the same thing. Not available or at best, a pet project from some third-tier developer.

Apple certainly has the market cornered for available apps and the ecosystem thingie. Lack of quality apps is the number one gripe I hear from non apple tablet owners. IMO, that's a huge issue since, well, what's the point of a device if you have nothing to run on it? It could have 100 GB of RAM but it won't make a lick of difference if you have nothing to run on it. Kind of like having a new Lamborghini Aventador but there's no fuel available for it. Have fun staring at it in the garage.....😉

 

[Ezhik]

I seriously cannot believe that this is still an issue. I had this problem since the first generation iPod touch! HOW can Apple just keep ignoring this?? Google's Nexus 7, which is two times cheaper than the retina mini has two gigabytes of RAM! Apple has no excuse!

 

[macfacts]

I seriously cannot believe that this is still an issue. I had this problem since the first generation iPod touch! HOW can Apple just keep ignoring this?? Google's Nexus 7, which is two times cheaper than the retina mini has two gigabytes of RAM! Apple has no excuse!

Apple loves it because it inflates the those web statistics about mobile web usage. It looks like iOS users are using the web more than Android users, but it really is Safari reloading the pages all the time.

 

[Ezhik]

Apple loves it because it inflates the those web statistics about mobile web usage. It looks like iOS users are using the web more than Android users, but it really is Safari reloading the pages all the time.

Haha, good theory. It's very sad, I bought the Mini Retina to not carry my Surface Pro around all the time, and it's been great, but web browsing just leaves me frustrated.

 

[Pressure]

Apple loves it because it inflates the those web statistics about mobile web usage. It looks like iOS users are using the web more than Android users, but it really is Safari reloading the pages all the time.

Except it seems you have no clue how web statistics are gathered.

 

[macfacts]

Except it seems you have no clue how web statistics are gathered.

There is no one way to do it but many do it similarly. Most companies that measure it insert "ads" in web pages and count the number of page views.


An example of one is this study from 2013: http://gs.statcounter.com/download/StatCounter-Internet-Wars-Report.pdf

Goto methodology in that pdf and they say, "Note that we base our data on page views rather than individual visitors". This means one mobile safari user that reloads a page 2 times is equal to two different android users that load the page once.

 

[bliggs]

I have the same problem on my 3rd gen. iPad so it's definitely a software issue, and not your shiny new iPad air!... 😉

 

[cs104]

I resolved the Safari tab reloading issue described on this thread by rebooting my iPad (ie holding down power button and powering off, then switching back on). This was on an iPad2 with iOS 7. I checked and I hadn't rebooted for 34 days prior to that, so perhaps this is just good practise to clear caches, RAM etc.

 

[Wild-Bill]

iOS7 has been AWFUL. I can't believe they had the audacity to release it in such a state.


Here we are now approaching the tail end of February and Safari tabs keep reloading, safari crashes all the time, and Airplay times out when the device goes to sleep. Totally UNSAT.

 

[Count Blah]

iOS7 has been AWFUL. I can't believe they had the audacity to release it in such a state.


Here we are now approaching the tail end of February and Safari tabs keep reloading, safari crashes all the time, and Airplay times out when the device goes to sleep. Totally UNSAT.

As long as people buy them up, Apple has little incentive to improve.

 

[cynics]

iOS7 has been AWFUL. I can't believe they had the audacity to release it in such a state.





Here we are now approaching the tail end of February and Safari tabs keep reloading, safari crashes all the time, and Airplay times out when the device goes to sleep. Totally UNSAT.

I have NO problem with AirPlay timing out. That is a feature I use constantly too. I goto sleep with Pandora Airplaying Pandora to my ATV every night.

Got anymore info on this?

 

[Wild-Bill]

I have NO problem with AirPlay timing out. That is a feature I use constantly too. I goto sleep with Pandora Airplaying Pandora to my ATV every night.

Got anymore info on this?

Not really. I found a suggestion to reboot the wireless router and the device(s) that are to be used for AirPlay. It's a temporary fix, as eventually after sleeping and waking a few times, the iPad or iPhone will cease transmitting the AirPlay content when it sleeps. Turning the pass code lock off to prevent this is not a viable solution and a potential security hole. Apple needs to fix it.

 

[kdoug]

iOS7 has been AWFUL. I can't believe they had the audacity to release it in such a state.


Here we are now approaching the tail end of February and Safari tabs keep reloading, safari crashes all the time, and Airplay times out when the device goes to sleep. Totally UNSAT.

I totally agree. If you have to use Safari, restart your device occasionally and Safari works perfectly.
Ive pretty much exclusively use Atomic Browser because of the reloading problem.

 

[medic27]

Maybe it's a feature to make it look like more ipads are visiting websites than androids.
Maybe they originally had 2gb ram in the prototype but apple thought it was better to make their popularity look better for marketing reasons.