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Maybe it's a feature to make it look like more ipads are visiting websites than androids.
Maybe they originally had 2gb ram in the prototype but apple thought it was better to make their popularity look better for marketing reasons.

That's an aspect I hadn't considered. Even RAM aside, that could be part of why Safari constantly wants to reload pages, even when there's nothing else going on eating up any memory.
 
Maybe it's a feature to make it look like more ipads are visiting websites than androids.
Maybe they originally had 2gb ram in the prototype but apple thought it was better to make their popularity look better for marketing reasons.

The problem with that theory is that the device would get a cookie from the host and the website would read and identify the IP address. If there is a match or the host dropped you a cookie then it sees it as the same device.
 
Soon there will be a 7.1 release. I don't frequent that forum much because beta is beta but we'll see soon about reloading.
 
Soon there will be a 7.1 release. I don't frequent that forum much because beta is beta but we'll see soon about reloading.

And when it still does? Will even the most ardent apple defenders begin to criticize apple for their $$$ over consumer hardware choices? My guess would still be no, but there is always a chance I suppose.
 
And when it still does? Will even the most ardent apple defenders begin to criticize apple for their $$$ over consumer hardware choices? My guess would still be no, but there is always a chance I suppose.

I am taking the wait and see approach. When it still does? Then I am not upgrading to the Air from my 1st gen Mini. :)
 
Soon there will be a 7.1 release. I don't frequent that forum much because beta is beta but we'll see soon about reloading.
Unfortunately nothing changed with 7.1. Safari tabs still keep reloading. Makes copying and pasting images, links etc. from different tabs into a forum post a pain because 9 times out of 10 when you switch back to the post that you are composing, the whole page reloads making you lose all your work. It is extremely annoying.
 
Unfortunately nothing changed with 7.1. Safari tabs still keep reloading. Makes copying and pasting images, links etc. from different tabs into a forum post a pain because 9 times out of 10 when you switch back to the post that you are composing, the whole page reloads making you lose all your work. It is extremely annoying.

yea no kidding, i am so close to just selling it and get a real laptop
 
Unfortunately nothing changed with 7.1. Safari tabs still keep reloading. Makes copying and pasting images, links etc. from different tabs into a forum post a pain because 9 times out of 10 when you switch back to the post that you are composing, the whole page reloads making you lose all your work. It is extremely annoying.

I'm seriously considering dumping this pile of ****** for that very reason. I've had an iPad from day one but I absolutely dread using Safari which make owning this unit redundant.

The Surface Pro 2 is looking better by the day.
 
I'm seriously considering dumping this pile of ****** for that very reason. I've had an iPad from day one but I absolutely dread using Safari which make owning this unit redundant.

The Surface Pro 2 is looking better by the day.

I just love posts like this because it's so easy to say the grass is greener on the other side. Surface has a poorer screen, portrait mode sucks because it's too tall and long since the Surface is really designed as a landscape device, it has poorer graphics, it's Wifi is inferior to the iPad's, battery life sucks, it's heavy and bulkier and they are just releasing a cellular option with AT&T only.
But if you're really looking for an overpriced laptop go ahead and enjoy the oh so perfect Surface Pro 2.

No company that mass produces products will make the perfect machine so once again, go ahead and dump that pile of ***** as you refer to the iPad. You'll quickly find the Surface Pro 2 to be even a bigger POS. :)
 
I just love posts like this because it's so easy to say the grass is greener on the other side. Surface has a poorer screen, portrait mode sucks because it's too tall and long since the Surface is really designed as a landscape device, it has poorer graphics, it's Wifi is inferior to the iPad's, battery life sucks, it's heavy and bulkier and they are just releasing a cellular option with AT&T only.
But if you're really looking for an overpriced laptop go ahead and enjoy the oh so perfect Surface Pro 2.

No company that mass produces products will make the perfect machine so once again, go ahead and dump that pile of ***** as you refer to the iPad. You'll quickly find the Surface Pro 2 to be even a bigger POS. :)

Agreed, although ultimately it just depends on what you want a tablet for. I personally can tolerate the tab reloading, but I'm waiting eagerly for the next iPad with more RAM.
 
I just love posts like this because it's so easy to say the grass is greener on the other side. Surface has a poorer screen, portrait mode sucks because it's too tall and long since the Surface is really designed as a landscape device, it has poorer graphics, it's Wifi is inferior to the iPad's, battery life sucks, it's heavy and bulkier and they are just releasing a cellular option with AT&T only.
But if you're really looking for an overpriced laptop go ahead and enjoy the oh so perfect Surface Pro 2.

No company that mass produces products will make the perfect machine so once again, go ahead and dump that pile of ***** as you refer to the iPad. You'll quickly find the Surface Pro 2 to be even a bigger POS. :)

Yea but does the browser constantly reload? Here's an unbiased perspective of the SP2.
http://www.cnet.com/news/rethinking-microsofts-tablet-surface-pro-2-succeeds/
 
What will you say when the new iPad with more RAM has the same tab reloading issues ?

If it does then that pretty much throws the RAM argument into the crapper, huh? I still think it's a safari issue more than physical RAM. I stand by that seeing as there is no reason to feel otherwise.
 
If it does then that pretty much throws the RAM argument into the crapper, huh? I still think it's a safari issue more than physical RAM. I stand by that seeing as there is no reason to feel otherwise.

I'm willing to bet more ram makes safari useable with three tabs without reloading. Right now, safari fails more time than not with two tabs on cutting and pasting from one tab to another with a forum post - and that is pathetic/embarrassing. Yet folks here will still defend it for some strange reason.
 
I'm willing to bet more ram makes safari useable with three tabs without reloading. Right now, safari fails more time than not with two tabs on cutting and pasting from one tab to another with a forum post - and that is pathetic/embarrassing. Yet folks here will still defend it for some strange reason.

Have you used any other tablet on the market? Because I have used most of them (I can buy any tablet I like for development and testing) and while the Safari reloads are a pain, overall there is just nothing else that comes close to the iPad for a tablet. Guess what. Android reloads just as badly - the new Galaxy Tab Pros reload after just a couple of tabs even with 2GB RAM but do so much more slowly than the iPad Air or even 4. Windows tablets are stuck with an incredibly limited version of IE in Metro. Sure, you can technically use desktop IE for touch, but it's overall a terrible experience. Other browsers are even worse. And lest you want anything other than a web browser from your windows tablet, well forget it. Their store is a wasteland.

Use a 3rd party browser in ios and 5-10 tabs with minimal reloading is yours. Unless you are just here to complain?
 
I'm willing to bet more ram makes safari useable with three tabs without reloading. Right now, safari fails more time than not with two tabs on cutting and pasting from one tab to another with a forum post - and that is pathetic/embarrassing. Yet folks here will still defend it for some strange reason.

It probably will but it wouldn't really cure the problem which IMO is poor safari coding and horrible memory management. They could probably eliminate the symptoms with 16 GB or RAM but the root cause would still be there.

I'd rather they just fix it so all devices are working better with safari, not just ones with extra RAM! ;)
 
I don't get the whole reloading thing. Explain what it does and how it hampers use..... please

Use one tab to respond in a forum. write a long post and then have a desire to post a link to another story, quote, link to a picture. Open up a second tab to research. You find the quote, and copy it. Go back to the 1st tab and see it reload and destroy your 10 minutes of typing several paragraphs.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

How is that acceptable?

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Have you used any other tablet on the market? Because I have used most of them (I can buy any tablet I like for development and testing) and while the Safari reloads are a pain, overall there is just nothing else that comes close to the iPad for a tablet.
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And here it is - the defense versus joining the customers calling for apple to fix the user experience.
 
Use one tab to respond in a forum. write a long post and then have a desire to post a link to another story, quote, link to a picture. Open up a second tab to research. You find the quote, and copy it. Go back to the 1st tab and see it reload and destroy your 10 minutes of typing several paragraphs.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

How is that acceptable?

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Yes I have had that happen to me before.... and because I have, I thought that might be normal activity for a tablet.
I now compose replys in notepad, and after it's completely composed I come back to the original site and post my comments. I'll bookmark that site by sending myself a link in iMessage. All that may be a bit of a pain, but it works for me.
I do appreciate the explanation of reloading - and didn't realize that I have been experiencing it too LOL
 
And here it is - the defense versus joining the customers calling for apple to fix the user experience.

Yet you completely ignored the heart of my post. Don't you think that if EVERY tablet platform available has significant limitations in what their browsers do that it's not just a matter of 'fixing it?' It's a matter of tradeoffs so choose which platform has the tradeoffs you can live with most. If browser reloading is your #1 issue, you are going to have to choose a Windows tablet. But realize that by doing so, you are necessarily going to give up something else.
 
Yet you completely ignored the heart of my post. Don't you think that if EVERY tablet platform available has significant limitations in what their browsers do that it's not just a matter of 'fixing it?' It's a matter of tradeoffs so choose which platform has the tradeoffs you can live with most. If browser reloading is your #1 issue, you are going to have to choose a Windows tablet. But realize that by doing so, you are necessarily going to give up something else.
Yes, I ignored the part that said I should shut up and live with it. I prefer not to shut up about this issue, and I want everyone to admit it's an issue and to push apple to do better. To push apple to ACTUALLY produce the best user experience, versus just claiming it's the best user experience.
 
Use one tab to respond in a forum. write a long post and then have a desire to post a link to another story, quote, link to a picture. Open up a second tab to research. You find the quote, and copy it. Go back to the 1st tab and see it reload and destroy your 10 minutes of typing several paragraphs.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

How is that acceptable?


Tbh honest I've not noticed this.

As many of us do I post on several forums and insert links etc.

To test I opened up a tab to one forum.
Wrote a lengthy paragraph and left the post open.
Opened another tab to search for some facts.
Copy and pasted the link from the 2nd open tab to the first tab in the post which was still open in that forum.
Went back to the second open tab and copy and pasted some info. Went back to the first tab to paste it with no issues.

Nothing lost in the first tab at all. No re loading.

Also have several other tabs open to other sites too.

Am I doing this right to try and get the experience your speaking of ?
 
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Tbh honest I've not noticed this.

As many of us do I post on several forums and insert links etc.

To test I opened up a tab to one forum.
Wrote a lengthy paragraph and left the post open.
Opened another tab to search for some facts.
Copy and pasted the link from the 2nd open tab to the first tab in the post which was still open in that forum.
Went back to the second open tab and copy and pasted some info. Went back to the first tab to paste it with no issues.

Nothing lost in the first tab at all. No re loading.

Also have several other tabs open to other sites too.

Am I doing this right to try and get the experience your speaking of ?
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18931891/
here is a link to another thread with a clear example of reloads when trying to compare data in only two tabs, and only safari running. If you want, I can create a video with one being a forum post and the 2nd searching for something to post in the 1st.

Same thing though - refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh,

Granted, it doesn't happen every time. But what is your threshold to be damned F'n annoying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

But the point still stands, and NO ONE from the "PFFT" crowd has ever answered this. Because you are not effected by this, why does it mean it's not an issue? When others have clearly stated it's a very annoying user experience issue.
 
Have you used any other tablet on the market? Because I have used most of them (I can buy any tablet I like for development and testing) and while the Safari reloads are a pain, overall there is just nothing else that comes close to the iPad for a tablet. Guess what. Android reloads just as badly - the new Galaxy Tab Pros reload after just a couple of tabs even with 2GB RAM but do so much more slowly than the iPad Air or even 4. Windows tablets are stuck with an incredibly limited version of IE in Metro. Sure, you can technically use desktop IE for touch, but it's overall a terrible experience. Other browsers are even worse. And lest you want anything other than a web browser from your windows tablet, well forget it. Their store is a wasteland.

Use a 3rd party browser in ios and 5-10 tabs with minimal reloading is yours. Unless you are just here to complain?

Exactly. I have a Nexus 7 (2013 version). It has the latest Android and the latest Chrome plus 2 GB RAM , and guess what? All tabs except the few recently used are reloading when switching to them.
 
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