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iPad Why do Safari tabs keep reloading on my iPad Air?

richardbb85 said:
i srsly doubt those with no refresh problem, straight up ram issue n i am sure we all have only 1gb.
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I assure you that what I've experienced which I state in my previous reply is what I have carried out several times to try and get the situation so many of you are experiencing.

My integrity is intact thank you. ;)

As from my signature I'm using an iPad Air 16Gb WiFi in the Uk with iOS 7.1 bought on the 29th of March.
 
Hi. I've had my air for a few months now but swear I only started getting this recently. Has an update made it worse?

Also, has anyone raised this with Apple support? It strikes me as the sort of thing an update could fix, could they not make Safari save the pages to disk rather than ram? It would slow it down a touch but better than current. I've got nothing except safari open, with only 2 or 3 tabs and it still reloads.
 
Dallybally321 said:
Hi. I've had my air for a few months now but swear I only started getting this recently. Has an update made it worse?

Also, has anyone raised this with Apple support? It strikes me as the sort of thing an update could fix, could they not make Safari save the pages to disk rather than ram? It would slow it down a touch but better than current. I've got nothing except safari open, with only 2 or 3 tabs and it still reloads.
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I agree, Apple should definitely include better caching or a swap file in iOS Safari. Accessing webpages from flash storage is not much slower than accessing them from RAM. It would be amazing if Safari could cache all your open tabs. The Opera Mini web browser caches tabs, and the app is a prime example of why Apple should do this in Safari.
 
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mangomind said:
I agree, Apple should definitely include better caching or a swap file in iOS Safari. Accessing webpages from flash storage is not much slower than accessing them from RAM. It would be amazing if Safari could cache all your open tabs. The Opera Mini web browser caches tabs, and the app is a prime example of why Apple should do this in Safari.
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I'm not a developer, but surely there's a reason they DON'T do this?
 
Dallybally321 said:
Hi. I've had my air for a few months now but swear I only started getting this recently. Has an update made it worse?

Also, has anyone raised this with Apple support? It strikes me as the sort of thing an update could fix, could they not make Safari save the pages to disk rather than ram? It would slow it down a touch but better than current. I've got nothing except safari open, with only 2 or 3 tabs and it still reloads.
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This has been the case from day 1 with iOS. There is no paging built into iOS.
 
HenryDJP said:
I just love posts like this because it's so easy to say the grass is greener on the other side. Surface has a poorer screen, portrait mode sucks because it's too tall and long since the Surface is really designed as a landscape device, it has poorer graphics, it's Wifi is inferior to the iPad's, battery life sucks, it's heavy and bulkier and they are just releasing a cellular option with AT&T only.
But if you're really looking for an overpriced laptop go ahead and enjoy the oh so perfect Surface Pro 2.

No company that mass produces products will make the perfect machine so once again, go ahead and dump that pile of ***** as you refer to the iPad. You'll quickly find the Surface Pro 2 to be even a bigger POS. :)
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I love how you go instant defense mode and thinking iPad is the best tablet. You surely thinking everything else is inferior to iPad. You know what, Surface does more than you can drame on iPad...

I can do lots more on my Windoes 8 tablet than iPad... at least web experience is better as I have all the Chrome extension installed. Oh... i forgot, i can attach files when emailing without going to other app... oh snap
 
alex2792 said:
Because Apple is too cheap to include sufficient ram.
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Right, but they'll charge $100 for an extra 16Gb of storage. Why do we buy this crap?

Problems like these are why I was very close to buying a Yoga2.

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medic27 said:
Maybe it's a feature to make it look like more ipads are visiting websites than androids.
Maybe they originally had 2gb ram in the prototype but apple thought it was better to make their popularity look better for marketing reasons.
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Haha maybe! Or maybe it's just lack of effort!

I hate it when I'm typing something in a webpage then I open a tab to check spelling or look up a reference, then return to the 1st tab, reload, and everything I typed is gone!

I get in the habit of copy/paste into pages before I open another tab. So aggravating.
 
bandofbrothers said:
I assure you that what I've experienced which I state in my previous reply is what I have carried out several times to try and get the situation so many of you are experiencing.

My integrity is intact thank you. ;)

As from my signature I'm using an iPad Air 16Gb WiFi in the Uk with iOS 7.1 bought on the 29th of March.
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I also do not believe you. Post a YouTube video if your iPad magically does not have to reload pages that all the rest of ours do... that have the EXACT same hardware.
I have owned all the iPads except the 4th gen (as it came too soon after the 3rd gen for me to justify it). On EVERY SINGLE one of the four of them.... & my wife's mini.... & my son's mini Retina, though we all ADORE web browsing- sadly in iOS, you get page reloads with multiple tabs open.
That means: you do, I do, everybody does... You may have never noticed it before.... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there. But to pretend like this is some bizarre software issue only affecting a small amount of users that have faulty equipment.... & somehow Apple hasn't noticed this and had a recall- well, that's simply ridiculous.
Lol, I assure you- it's reality.
 
ttycho said:
I also do not believe you. Post a YouTube video if your iPad magically does not have to reload pages that all the rest of ours do... that have the EXACT same hardware.
I have owned all the iPads except the 4th gen (as it came too soon after the 3rd gen for me to justify it). On EVERY SINGLE one of the four of them.... & my wife's mini.... & my son's mini Retina, though we all ADORE web browsing- sadly in iOS, you get page reloads with multiple tabs open.
That means: you do, I do, everybody does... You may have never noticed it before.... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there. But to pretend like this is some bizarre software issue only affecting a small amount of users that have faulty equipment.... & somehow Apple hasn't noticed this and had a recall- well, that's simply ridiculous.
Lol, I assure you- it's reality.
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I'm sad to say after recently updating to iOS 7.1.1 my iPad Air safari tabs is now re loading.

If I leave 3-4 tabs open it seems fine but any more and they re load which is infuriating if I'm making a post , and move/ open another to get some info, go back and the original post jive left open reloads losing my work.

Wish I hadn't updated to iOS 7.1.1.
 
bandofbrothers said:
I'm sad to say after recently updating to iOS 7.1.1 my iPad Air safari tabs is now re loading.

If I leave 3-4 tabs open it seems fine but any more and they re load which is infuriating if I'm making a post , and move/ open another to get some info, go back and the original post jive left open reloads losing my work.

Wish I hadn't updated to iOS 7.1.1.
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i can assure you nothing has changed. I posted a video somewheres in here that showed tab refreshing with only 2 tabs and nothing other than safari running.
 
kaiseryeahhh said:
Use icab web browser.
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It's not that simple. Even if that solves the tab issue, it's useless if it can't offer the same features as Safari. I love the reading list. I can go back and forth on my Mac and iPad and pick up where I left off. Speaking of Tabs, iCloud tabs and various other things that make a Safari clone a non-replacement.
 
zhenya said:
No, while that makes a good sound bite that's far from the full story. RAM is easy to get today, but it also makes for lazy developers. By keeping the RAM tight and not allowing paging, it keeps iOS responsive on relatively underpowered (compared to a full computer) equipment and keeps the battery life consistently good because there isn't a lot of room for bugs.

Try using a Windows tablet like the Surface Pro. Despite far more computing power and 4x the RAM, the overall experience isn't even as smooth as what you get on an iPad. Scrolling, multitasking, wake from sleep, etc. all are not as good. So while Apple may have pushed the boundaries this time, realize that there are sound reasons for not just giving an unlimited amount of RAM to work with.
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This was enlightening. It actually sounds like really good reasoning. Thanks for that!

And no I am not being sarcastic. :apple:
 
About RAM:

It's not only a question of memory: the more memory > more apps in background > more cpu usage > worse user experience & and more battery usage. Also, I think that having only 1Gb makes third party apps (and general apps) be more efficient in terms of memory usage, which i think that is very good.
 
robertosh said:
About RAM:

It's not only a question of memory: the more memory > more apps in background > more cpu usage > worse user experience & and more battery usage. Also, I think that having only 1Gb makes third party apps (and general apps) be more efficient in terms of memory usage, which i think that is very good.
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More ram = better user experience. Ask any iPad 1 user. Apple can also limit the amount a RAM a single program can utilize - problem solved. Apple has done a good job of jettisoning open but unused apps that are taking up RAM that can be used by the currently running application, so I am not sure why you think adding more ram is somehow going to totally degrade what is alreading going on - namely, open but unused ram sitting by taking up precious little resources.
 
Count Blah said:
More ram = better user experience. Ask any iPad 1 user. Apple can also limit the amount a RAM a single program can utilize - problem solved. Apple has done a good job of jettisoning open but unused apps that are taking up RAM that can be used by the currently running application, so I am not sure why you think adding more ram is somehow going to totally degrade what is alreading going on - namely, open but unused ram sitting by taking up precious little resources.
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Count, you're probably right but memory management and logical resource handling would also help. Since the current Air can't be upgraded those that suffer from this issue need to hope that apple does something on the software end of things.
 
s2mikey said:
Count, you're probably right but memory management and logical resource handling would also help. Since the current Air can't be upgraded those that suffer from this issue need to hope that apple does something on the software end of things.
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Apple has been working on ios7 for over a year and a half now. If this glaring problem has not been fixed at this point, it is not going to be fixed.
 
I'm now using the Atomic Browser which at the moment seems to be not re loading tabs like Safari.

Time will tell !

This browser is pretty new to me.
 
bandofbrothers said:
I'm now using the Atomic Browser which at the moment seems to be not re loading tabs like Safari.

Time will tell !

This browser is pretty new to me.
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Yes, atomic is a less known alternative to safari that does work pretty well. You lose out on some of the swipe gestures which stinks but it's a stable browser with some nice customizations.
 
s2mikey said:
Although it seems strange, they may have not known about it. I call it poor QA testing! ;)
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The engineers for troubleshooting safari is simply the worst. I had direct contact with an engineer about the issue with reloading tabs in 3 months with no results. Apple employees are so rigid that they can not even read a log file correctly. iPad Air or iOS 7 or something else with this story is really bad.
 
foobi said:
The engineers for troubleshooting safari is simply the worst. I had direct contact with an engineer about the issue with reloading tabs in 3 months with no results. Apple employees are so rigid that they can not even read a log file correctly. iPad Air or iOS 7 or something else with this story is really bad.
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I think they just play dumb sometimes. Acknowledging an issue that can't be fixed via software update would cause them trouble.
 
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