Yes, reading through this is interesting. It's easy to forget that people speak up when things don't go right but usually stay quiet when it works perfectly.
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Why does iOS 7 crash so much?
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Yes, reading through this is interesting. It's easy to forget that people speak up when things don't go right but usually stay quiet when it works perfectly.
Glad I'm not the only one. I found your post because I was searching to see if anyone else has this problem.
I get quite a few crashes from the music app.
It was a BIG update and we aren't even to the first major point release yet.
Patience.
It was a BIG update and we aren't even to the first major point release yet.
Patience.
Beta software should not be put on general release.
iOS7 should have been developed and tested in-house, for months and months, before being signed off for general release. I'm tired of hearing that "they will get it right with the 7.1 update" - it should have been right with the 7.0 update. Period.
Just because there are bugs doesn't mean its a beta release.....
I haven't yet experienced a piece of software without bugs, have you? And if they had put it off, what would the complaining be then? People would be whining and bashing Apple for not being ready with the software.
They can't win.
iOS6 had far less bugs than the replacement. Until the replacement performs at least as well as the outgoing software then it should not be released.
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Apart from the battery drain problem, safari is slow and it crashes. Safari doesn't remember the place I'm at on a website when I hit the back button. It isn't anywhere near as slick in operation, nor as user friendly. I like the look of iOS7 but that's ALL I like so far.
If Apple sold jackets with buttons that constantly came undone I am sure they'd receive the same kind of defense from their die-hard fans.
But the fact is that with the massive profits the company makes on luxury items, they could easily employ a thousand beta testers working around the clock in all time zones. There's no excuse for releasing such buggy firmware.
Two weeks of decent home and office use by Apple staff would have shown up most of the bugs I have encountered.
But the fact is that with the massive profits the company makes on luxury items, they could easily employ a thousand beta testers working around the clock in all time zones. There's no excuse for releasing such buggy firmware.
Two weeks of decent home and office use by Apple staff would have shown up most of the bugs I have encountered.
Exactly. It's shocking how little testing this o/s MUST have received. I noticed bugs in 7.0 within the first hour of use and now, months after general release and with a few updates under its belt, iOS7 is still functioning poorly in a lot of obvious places. Does nobody at Apple surf the net on their iPhones? Has nobody noticed how generally poor Safari is in iOS7 compared to the slick version in iOS6 ??
Our experiences differ - the music app is really the only app that crashes with any consistency for me. And I've had no problem with safari being wonky.
Software updates are not all alike. This annual time table which has become the norm and the expected only allows for so much. An update which adds features to an already established UI design can be done with minor flaws in a year. A complete UI redesign and OS update? There is obviously much more to be done - yet the same annual time frame remains.
You can either attempt to understand this and be content that Apple - which updates and fixes faster than anyone - will take care of any issues. Or you can whine and complain.
I disagree. How long has iOS7 been out now? Months! Nothing has been fixed for me, none of the issues I experience have been fixed.
Safari crashes. Safari doesn't remember where I was on a previous page when I hit the back button, it always takes me to the top of the page again and it is soooo non-premium. iOS6 was super classy in this respect. Oh and iOS7 shaved 3 hours off the battery runtime on my four month old iPhone 5. Numerous clean installs haven't cured this problem and neither have Apple's updates. So yeah, iOS7 gave me a 'fresh new look' but a whole host of serious useability issues.
Or, there are those of us who understand a thing or two about these updates. How do you know that there weren't other bugs that were caught in testing phases? That to keep up with these annual time frames, all while adding more and more to the OS AND completely redesigning the UI AND making it 64-bit, they simply ran out of time.
Not to mention people like you are such drama queens....there are bugs to be sure, but its far from unusable.
Keep complaining. Or do everyone a favor and find a new smartphone/OS/forum to troll.
A laughable response. Ran out of time?? Stick with iOS6 then. Being unhappy with bugs is trolling? Wow.
I believe it was released the end of September.
And in each update thus far (4 of them in total) bugs have disappeared. At this point, all I have issues with is the music app crashing.
Again, its not a fair comparison to say iOS 7 should be on par with iOS 6 after the same time frame. FAR MORE was done in iOS 7 than in the update to 6.
The difference between people who complain like you and me is not that I'm some blind Apple fanatic. It's that I understand Apple has limitations. They have lots of money and talent sure, but not enough (and certainly not enough time) to make everything perfect.
I simply have realistic expectations of my software and hardware.
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Yet if they had waited to released iOS 7, there would be huge backlash that Apple isn't "keeping up". Don't you get it?
Being unhappy with bugs isn't trolling. Being unrealistic and claiming Apple is somehow doing this on purpose or isn't paying attention is trolling.
The idea that these updates should be done perfectly in a year's time is what's laughable. iOS 7 has more bugs (mind you minor ones) than iOS 6 because its a MUCH larger update.
You don't understand that, I'm sorry.
To replace an operating system with one which has more bugs and less useability than the outgoing one is good practice how?
I don't understand that, no. There is no need to rush out something inferior. I would rather wait thanks. If iOS7 needed months and months of testing (*which it plainly didn't get) in order to be at least as good as iOS6, then it should have received that testing. I don't want to delete a perfectly good o/s and replace it with something worse. Why would I want to do that? It makes no sense. All the defenders of Apple's great wisdom say that iOS6 had years of development so how can we expect iOS7 to be as good yet? Erm, I do expect it to be at least as good straight out of the blocks.
I don't find it has less usability at all.....the added features are great and I much prefer the new UI to the old. If I have to put up with a few crashes for a few months until its perfected so be it....
Again, this is the 7th iteration, a major deviation from what had previously been put out. This is a once in a while occurrence where, due to the vast overhaul of the system, there are more bugs than normal.
Bugs and all, I think iOS 7 is EASILY better than iOS 6 and wouldn't go back. Each of the 4 updates thus far has fixed issues....and it really hasn't been that long since release. I assume 7.1 will finish off most of the widespread bugs - if it doesn't, then I'll be perturbed.
But at this point, I like my iPhone better now than I did last year. And I experienced bugs every once in a while then too....
No sense in arguing any further. You expect perfection and don't understand that more updates = tougher to do in a year. I have realistic expectations of Apple and am content with my phones.
Ya know whats really ironic? The main "You Apple defenders think they can do now wrong and are blind" argument is actually quite ironic when you think about it. The reality is, you seem to think Apple perfect, or at least have much higher expectations of them than I - which either come from some idiotic misunderstanding of the way tech works or some view that Apple is far superior to anyone else.
On the other hand, most of us who are labeled Apple-sheep simply understand limitations. We see Apple as a great company, but one with the same limitations as everyone else. There's only so much you can do in a year. And each year, the amount you can do gets a little greater - Apple tried to take it much further than that with iOS 7, so we get some bugs. Small price to pay IMO.
Be lucky its every couple of weeks.
Brand new 5s and iPad mini and they BOTH crash to white boot logo multiple times daily.
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Uhhh I have to disagree with this.
The second that Apple does something great, the sheep are there to gloat about it and discuss how they can do no wrong. The second that they screw up, the same make excuses. Granted, every following has these individuals, but don't try to make believe that these people don't exist with Apple in some sort of elitism fashion.
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The app that does it most for me is Safari...
Those who you describe are the real sheep.....people, like me, who are often labeled sheep are as I described above.....NOT SHEEP, just content, drama-fee iOS people....
I'm sorry I've interrupted the complaining though. Please do continue. Love the hyperbole by the way.....multiple restarts daily = something wrong with your device. That isn't normal AT ALL.
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Curious about this as well....
Do all of you people who whine and complain have your device's diagnostic info send to Apple automatically?
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My iPhone 5 seemed like it crashed a lot (at least a couple times a week) after updating to iOS 7 - along with odd battery level reporting and performance - and I realized it was springboard crashing.
I found out it was an issue with corrupt iCloud data.
After I turned off the "Documents & Data" backup on all my iDevices, and deleted the "com~apple~TextInput" folder in the "iCloud" folder on my iMac, and rebooted the iPhone, switched "Documents & Data" backup back on, no more crashes.
See this article for a little too much information about it.
You may have to dig a bit to find the "iCloud" folder on your Mac. Whether or not you have a PC/Mac, make sure to go to icloud.com, click your name in the upper right corner, click account settings, click advanced, then click "reset documents and data". It may or may not be superfluous depending on completing the aforementioned steps.
Good luck all.
My iPhone 5 seemed like it crashed a lot (at least a couple times a week) after updating to iOS 7 - along with odd battery level reporting and performance - and I realized it was springboard crashing.
I found out it was an issue with corrupt iCloud data.
After I turned off the "Documents & Data" backup on all my iDevices, and deleted the "com~apple~TextInput" folder in the "iCloud" folder on my iMac, and rebooted the iPhone, switched "Documents & Data" backup back on, no more crashes.
See this article for a little too much information about it.
You may have to dig a bit to find the "iCloud" folder on your Mac. Whether or not you have a PC/Mac, make sure to go to icloud.com, click your name in the upper right corner, click account settings, click advanced, then click "reset documents and data". It may or may not be superfluous depending on completing the aforementioned steps.
Good luck all.
Why would Apple feel pressured into releasing iOS 7 before it was ready? Its disregard of public opinion is legendary. Copy and paste, forward delete, its restrictions and file system, its virtually uncustomizable interface... It doesn't traditionally give people what they want, or give in to hecklers.
No matter how hard it is to introduce a massive update or rebuild the OS from scratch there's no excuse for selling poor software at a premium price. The bugs are not hard to find, they are conspicuous and annoying. Look at their profit margins, should we feel sorry for them for not doing a good job because they found it "a bit difficult"?
If 7.1 delivers a highly polished operating system I'll appreciate the effort, but it still won't make up for half a year of problems. Third party apps are corrected and improved faster than Apple's apps and OS. With all that cash and engineers and programmers itching to join the company, and all the discussions and sites devoted wholly to Apple feedback, I don't see why Facebook or the latest cheap Notepad app should be delivering updates more often than Apple itself.
No matter how hard it is to introduce a massive update or rebuild the OS from scratch there's no excuse for selling poor software at a premium price. The bugs are not hard to find, they are conspicuous and annoying. Look at their profit margins, should we feel sorry for them for not doing a good job because they found it "a bit difficult"?
If 7.1 delivers a highly polished operating system I'll appreciate the effort, but it still won't make up for half a year of problems. Third party apps are corrected and improved faster than Apple's apps and OS. With all that cash and engineers and programmers itching to join the company, and all the discussions and sites devoted wholly to Apple feedback, I don't see why Facebook or the latest cheap Notepad app should be delivering updates more often than Apple itself.
My iPad Air crashes daily in Safari - to the point where I am considering returning if there is not a fix soon. I have a Macbook Air, iMac and every iPad that has come out and never had anything from Apple that performed as poorly as iOS7 with the Safari crashes. I love everything about the iPad Air, except the constant crashes.
Really disappointed and do not think that Steve Jobs would have allowed that to happen.
Really disappointed and do not think that Steve Jobs would have allowed that to happen.
I don't think it manifests itself with unreadable documents. I think it has to do with some indexes/dictionaries that iCloud creates in the background.