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Why does Walmart not like Apple Pay?
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Same. I loathe the place and their business practices, especially the way they treat employees and small businesses they run out of town. They don't get my $ unless I have no alternative. In that one time a year I feel dirty and take a shower aftewards. The place is a ********.
ApplePay won't effect Walmart and if it's not the cheapest route or goes against their methods they won't use it.
I'll still grocery shop there regardless of whether they support ApplePay or not because their prices in combination with their savings catcher app are significantly cheaper then the local competition. You'll find the vast majority of people will too. You'd have to admit it's pretty idiotic to pay more just to use an alternative payment method at checkout.
Just like their crappy business practices. No one should be going there out of spite, but people still do.
It would be nice if they did support ApplePay just to help make it more popular.
I'll still grocery shop there regardless of whether they support ApplePay or not because their prices in combination with their savings catcher app are significantly cheaper then the local competition. You'll find the vast majority of people will too. You'd have to admit it's pretty idiotic to pay more just to use an alternative payment method at checkout.
Just like their crappy business practices. No one should be going there out of spite, but people still do.
It would be nice if they did support ApplePay just to help make it more popular.
Wow, that is actually surprising, coming from a technology company like Best Buy. I wouldn't think they would actually go out of their way to not support something like Apple Pay.
You need to think again as Apple pays a company that builds their devices, who treats their employees so badly they had to fence the balconies to keep them from jumping off to kill themsleves.
Apple makes Walmart look like a saint!
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Yep, you can bet Walmart is not losing any sleep over this!
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Holaholaholaholalup. I wish that Target was supporting it in stores, but if my memory serves me correctly, that was the slide about companies whose apps will support Pay.
Not necessarily to ApplePay but to NFC in general? Why? Convenience and faster checkout for the customer.
Walmart will have no choice on NFC as the government is forcing all the banks to issue Chipped credit/debit cards by the end of 2015. But there is no advantage for Walmart to give Apple the time of day.
Gah! Again, NFC and chip and pin are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. They are not mutually inclusive.
nope, and they don't ask you to subscribe to magazines during checkout either
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and they are the biggest promoters of employees to management from within the company
If Walmart starts accepting NFC, I believe that means de facto support for ApplePay.
I think it might have a lot to do with the fact Walmart, at least by me, updated their POS systems a few years back to support EMV cards. These terminals however do not support NFC. I would guess they aren't in a rush to undergo a huge financial burden to support Apple Pay just yet when they are already compliant with the 2015 liability shift.
Target on the other hand just upgraded their terminals to ones that "can" support NCF. The slide was for "in-app" only, but I wouldn't be surprised if Target supported it in the next year.
I could care less, I only ever go to Walmart if I know there is something I can get quickly and easily there. In most cases I go somewhere else. I have probably been there once in the last year.
Target on the other hand just upgraded their terminals to ones that "can" support NCF. The slide was for "in-app" only, but I wouldn't be surprised if Target supported it in the next year.
I could care less, I only ever go to Walmart if I know there is something I can get quickly and easily there. In most cases I go somewhere else. I have probably been there once in the last year.
Maybe so. It is at the choice of Walmart.
Not mattering much here as I only shop their about once or twice a year.
Incorrect on two counts. (a) the US government isn't requiring anything and (b) chipped cards don't imply NFC; EMV terminals don't necessarily all have NFC, nor do the merchants have to enable NFC on those terminals that do have the hardware.
See http://www.tsys.com/acquiring/engage/white-papers/United-States-EMV-Adoption.cfm
It sounds like Best Buy had turned off their NFC terminals some time ago (long before Apple Pay) because they found too few people were using it and not worth the added complications or expense (?) of it. I bet that will change in the future. Here is an article I found on it:
http://www.mobilecommercedaily.com/nfc-takes-another-blow-as-7-eleven-best-buy-shut-it-down
I am pretty sure that I read that obama had mandated his banking zar to require chipped cards in 2015. I believe that to be so.
You are right... but in practice, I think virtually all the Chip/PIN terminals being sold also have NFC.
Of course they can disable the NFC as Best Buy did.
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I understand, but several people in this thread keep making these statements that imply that as soon as chip and pin is everywhere, so is NFC, which simply isn't the case. Not all EMV terminals have NFC, but many do. Of those that do, not all will have the NFC enabled.
I couldn't even tell you the last time I stepped foot in a Wal-Mart or Target.
Based on the pictures from peopleofwalmart.com do people that shop there even own cell phones? I kid I kid
Based on the pictures from peopleofwalmart.com do people that shop there even own cell phones?
I kid I kid
Somehow I think Walmart will be okay without Apple Pay. If so many iPhone owners already don't shop at Walmart (I may go in there 2-3 times a year myself), they already weren't getting our business. They've managed to do a-okay without our money. They'll survive... sadly. (I speak relative to so many posters saying all over macrumors saying they don't shop at WalMart.)
Now Target on the other hand... yeah, they need to get onboard for in-store, though I do love my 5% instant discount every time I shop there!
Now Target on the other hand... yeah, they need to get onboard for in-store, though I do love my 5% instant discount every time I shop there!
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Ah, the choice argument. Works so well. Especially when Walmart has been known to go into small towns, undercut all the local businesses and eventually starve them out, and the be the only employment in town.
Yep. Sure, your choice is to keep trying for what ever jobs are left over that there is high competition for and hope you have enough money in the meantime to cover your expenses as you stay jobless trying to avoid the one big employer in your area. Or work at Walmart. So, if you chose Walmart, you deserve it, right?
Hell, even in areas that have a lot more places than Walmart still to shop/work at. If some one ends up jobless and is living on what ever money tehy have left (or none at all), and they get a job at Walmart, it is their fault for working there rather than trying to survive on no money while waiting for some other job to hire them.
And, going back on topic, I don't see how Walmart is going to care about using Apple Pay. In general Walmart targets poor areas/poor people. Who aren't the people Apple targets. So, as some one else said, their markets don't really overlap that much and Walmart isn't going to miss the few who are so upset about them not taking Apple pay they'll just not shop there (most people who are paying attention that much and are so pro Apple aren't going to be shopping at Walmart anyways).
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Civics 101: Obama cannot establish a new law governing the payment card industry. What he can (and did) do is mandate use of chip & pin for card payments within the Executive branch of the US Federal government. There's a pretty big difference between the two. See http://www.atmatom.com/obama-raises-the-emv-ante/
The train started moving long before Obama jumped aboard; see the white paper I referenced above. The industry itself started moving forward a while ago and established deadlines. The incentive is purely financial; liability for fraud shifts over to the acquirer (the companies merchants use to take and process credit card transactions) as of Oct 15 which in turn will incent them to get their client merchants using EMV compatible terminals. Most likely by raising the card acceptance rates for anyone not using an EMV terminal.
It is interesting that he mandated chip and pin rather than just chip & signature. As to that happening by 1 January... I'd be surprised if they pulled that off in what, two months?
Um check your quote tags. I never said that. I wouldn't defend WalMart in a million years.