Yeah I got that but "picking up the phone and using it" isn't how you unlock an 8 and earlier. You have to still put your FP over the sensor regardless.
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Why FaceID is OBJECTIVELY a regressive technology
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Applejuiced
macrumors Westmere
Yes but that is another workaround to have it mounted at a certain height and angle on your dash that it can scan your face.
I just leave mine in the cup holder or on the passenger seat and with a quick touch I already have access 😉
God I’m getting sick of the Samesung Army. Just try to be innovative yourself instead.
Sure. Whatevs. I have mine mounted there for sat nav in my Defender in the same mount I used my 7+ and it requires less interaction than my 7+. But if you’re struggling with your X, maybe you better stick with Touch ID.
As for my other points about authenticating secure apps - I win.
my phones is unlocked as I pick it up or take it out of pocket it with touch ID. I'm already on the homescreen by the time it is in view of my eyes.
Applejuiced
macrumors Westmere
This is getting tiring.
With Face ID you can also be in the homescreen once phone is in view. Just swipe as you pick it up or take out of pocket. Then when you look at it - you are in the home screen.
I do not understand this urgency to have it unlocked before you even look at it. Why does it matter if it is unlocked when it is still in your pocket?
unlocking without looking at it is great for those who don't like having siri accessible when locked. But even so with siri accessible when locked, SIRI will not read emails . Without picking up phone, I can reach over, rest my finger on touch ID button, and then ask hey siri to read my latest emails. All without looking at the screen.
There is really nothing urgent about it other than pointing at it is faster and more convenient.
I could have read my emails in the time it takes you to move your finger, rest it to unlock and then ask Siri to read your emails.
without picking up your phone from , lets say, a nightstand or desk? just reach over and unlock it ? sometimes having siri read emails allows for multitasking.
I was using email as an example, there are other things SIRI will not do when locked.
Bottom line is I'm upgrading my 6s soon to a bigger screen. I'm getting 8+. I am happy with 6s on iOS 11 but I just want a bigger screen for my aging eyes.
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Raist3001
macrumors 65816
Obviously you don’t got it. You don’t have to press the home button on any touchID enabled phone. Its unlocked before having to view it.
mcdj
macrumors G3
If you had asked me last week, I couldn’t have agreed more.
However, the more I use the X, (after redoing the face scan setup a few times to tweak the position of my face to more accurately represent my typical angle and distance to the phone), I am finding that I am less and less conscious of the 3 separate steps. They are starting to blend into one and other, much like Touch ID’s steps of finding the button and placing a finger at the correct angle and position became one fluid thing.
That aside, the number of rejections is still higher with Face ID than Touch ID for me. And for that reason, it’s slower and not as easy.
When you're holding the device, TID and FID are probably equal, when FID works first time that is. Apparently it doesn't always work first time but that's probably a first gen issue which will no doubt be improved in future iterations.
However when your phone is on a desk, that's where TID starts to kick away. With TID, simply press the button. With FID, tap the screen to wake it, then swipe up. And if the phone is left or right of you, again FID may not work first time.
And those who say that FID is great for when you're wearing gloves, don't you need to take your glovess off to swipe up?
There's also issues like wearing a scarf around your face and the fact that identical twins can trick FID which leads me to believe that TID is not only more convenient, but more secure....at this point in time.
So for me TID is still the superior method to unlock your device, but that's not to say that this will be the case next year or the year after.
FID will do other tricks as well when app devs start integrating FID into apps. But that could be a double edged sword too, things like opening stuff by accident or making in app purchases because you looked at your phone when you weren't intending to do those things. Sometimes with security, nothing makes you feel more secure than you being the one that's in control. With FID, it's as if the phone is in control. With TID, you are in control. Phone won't unlock unless you press the button. I liken it to hovering your finger over the mouse button and then clicking the send button icon after you have proof read an important email 5 times. Your finger ain't pressing down until you are satisfied that it's ready to go...you are in control.
However when your phone is on a desk, that's where TID starts to kick away. With TID, simply press the button. With FID, tap the screen to wake it, then swipe up. And if the phone is left or right of you, again FID may not work first time.
And those who say that FID is great for when you're wearing gloves, don't you need to take your glovess off to swipe up?
There's also issues like wearing a scarf around your face and the fact that identical twins can trick FID which leads me to believe that TID is not only more convenient, but more secure....at this point in time.
So for me TID is still the superior method to unlock your device, but that's not to say that this will be the case next year or the year after.
FID will do other tricks as well when app devs start integrating FID into apps. But that could be a double edged sword too, things like opening stuff by accident or making in app purchases because you looked at your phone when you weren't intending to do those things. Sometimes with security, nothing makes you feel more secure than you being the one that's in control. With FID, it's as if the phone is in control. With TID, you are in control. Phone won't unlock unless you press the button. I liken it to hovering your finger over the mouse button and then clicking the send button icon after you have proof read an important email 5 times. Your finger ain't pressing down until you are satisfied that it's ready to go...you are in control.
datapolitical
macrumors regular
tromboneaholic
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People without an iPhone X playing internet expert on how FaceID works.
Raist3001
macrumors 65816
LOL....yea, and here I was thinking this was a discussion forum.
"I don't got it"? What? You need to put your finger on the sensor for it to be unlocked. You can't just pick it up and it be unlocked.
flat five
macrumors 603
sure.. if by 'discussion' you mean a bunch of people trying to explain how touchID works to a bunch of people who have likely used touchID longer than the explainers have.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aibocyrus
macrumors 6502a
This all seems so simple. If you don’t like FaceID then don’t get the X. Boom! Problem solved lol
Yes, and also to many who still have Touch ID on other iDevices. So have not forgotten in the last week how it works, either.
thesaint024
macrumors 65816
I generally love the X, but I listed this as one of my downsides. I would call it 2 steps, not 3, compared to just the 1 you mentioned. I don't count glancing at the phone as a real step. Nevertheless, it is one extra step EVERY time to get to the home screen. I don't like using raise to wake, but I suppose that would remove one step and it would just be a swipe, which is more cumbersome a movement than simply placing my thumb on TouchID. Anyway, it hasn't been a show stopper or too annoying to keep me from enjoying this. It is objectively an extra step, but calling it regressive takes it too far, because we don't know how they can/will update the experience in the future. I did have to change habits which I might be more accepting of in time.
Superrjamz54
macrumors 6502
I had a bigger issue with activating Apple Pay or Siri half the time I used TouchID. That issue is gone with FaceId. Better her used to FaceId, doubt Apple will release a new model of phone that uses TouchID.
everythingapplerainbow
macrumors regular
thesaint024
macrumors 65816
The hope of TouchID returning is what ultimately made me decide to keep the X. I was planning on holding out for next year's model with embedded TouchID in the screen. It would have been the best of both worlds, but rumors are pointing to this not happening. I actually prefer ApplePay with TouchID, so seamless. FaceID is still a little awkward for me. I only use "hey Siri" so that's not an issue for me. But it turned out these were pretty minor for me and I love the X. Not justifying since I was completely fine with returning and waiting a year. I agree with the consensus though, it's a moot point not worth arguing since it's probably never coming back. 🙁