Why FaceID is OBJECTIVELY a regressive technology

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  1. MEJHarrison macrumors 6502a

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    As an iPhone X owner, clearly you don't.
     
  2. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    No, it doesnt need your full finger to cover the sensor in order to unlock.
    It takes less than a second to unlock and just by using the edges of your fingertips does it.
    Have you used touch ID before?
     
  3. inkahauts macrumors regular

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    Except I don’t have to find a right angle to get my phone unlock that isn’t a natural place I’d have my face anyway. I’ve actually been specifically holding the phone at different angles and distances, and it’s not been an issue. I think how big a circle you make with your head when teach it is important. Just like with teaching it your finger print.
     
  4. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    I dont need to be an iphone X owner, I'll continue to post my opinion and input on the iphone X weather that bothers you or not.
    Hope it doesnt hurt your feelings too much :D
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    A right angle to get your phone to unlock? A thumbprint works sideways and upside down unlike FaceID :D
    You're holding it wrong unless the sensor can view and read your face in order to let you in your phone.
     
  5. inkahauts macrumors regular

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    Side and volume buttons do that stuff now in different combinations.
     
  6. iapplelove macrumors 68040

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    They were charging a grand regardless imo.
     
  7. inkahauts macrumors regular

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    I used it for three years. If it’s not covering pretty much the entire sensor it doesn’t work. If it did for you then yours is broke. Have you ever used it? I am saying when you finger is only half or 3/4 covering the sensor which is easy to do it you are randomly grabbing your phone in your pocket or not looking at it while it’s sitting on a desk, which is what people here seem to be claiming makes touchid work better.

    While I agree you have every right to just flat out not like the looks or style of the phone, you really are just wrong when it comes to all this stuff about touchid being easier than Face ID and you won’t ever understand that till you own a phone with Face ID.

    Frankly while neither is difficult, Face ID has fully proven that throughout an entire day, it’s just better for overall use than Touch ID even if it’s a wash with unlocking the phone. Accessing apps with it is so much better, something you obviously have no real experience with since you do not own a phone with Face ID.
     
  8. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    What you're claiming about touch ID is false.
    It works fine without the need to cover the entire home sensor to unlock.
    You can enter your fingerprints using various motions sideways, upside down, catching only the edges of your finger tips etc..
    I do not have to buy one to understand that I do not like it and do not want to use face id.
    Im not into taking 100 selfies a day to get in my phone or having to keep lifting up and holding the phone towards my face to unlock it like a little teenage girl. Its a huge step backwards to me using faceID. The sensor will never scan and unlock unless its in position within view of your face. That's a fact.
    And I dont want to have to hold or keep lifting my device in order to unlock.
     
  9. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    To be fair, I just played around with it a number of times on my iPhone 7 and I can unlock it just with a tip of my finger making contact with some part of the home button, certainly not covering it all or even close to all of it.
     
  10. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 6502a

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    Have you actually used it for prolonged period of time? Because the way you describe it you make it sound like conscious actions that are to be undertaken. In reality that is simply not the case, well not in my experience...
     
  11. Knowimagination macrumors 68000

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    This is why you need to use Face ID before you hate on it, everything you just said about it is completely ridiculous and untrue except for the fact that it has to be in view of your face. It honestly makes you sound ignorant when you say things like "taking 100 selfies a day to get into my phone" It makes it perfectly clear that you don't have any idea how good Face ID actually is and it makes your opinion incredibly easy to dismiss.
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  12. DiveKitty macrumors 6502

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    What are you talking about? None of this is true of Face ID. If you are going to get on others about "what you're claiming about Touch ID is false" maybe you should make damn sure what you are saying about Face ID isn't also false.
     
  13. Raist3001 macrumors 6502

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    You do not need to press the home button to get to the home screen.
     
  14. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    What is ridiculous is having to lift up my phone to a certain height, angle and distance from my face to get access to my phone.
    Not happening, if you enjoy that then go for it.
    Im not wasting my money on it ;)
    Touch ID works great so if its not broken why fix it?
    I dont plan to spend $1000+ on a beta experiment.
     
  15. HelloMikee macrumors 6502a

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    I was spectacle about Face ID but it’s mind of amazing.
     
  16. DiveKitty macrumors 6502

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    Sure, if you had to do that to use Face ID it might be ridiculous. Except you don’t have to do that. You just...use and hold your phone as you would normally. There is no exaggerated “selfies” required.
     
  17. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Yes, but face id has many limitations and a certain hardware viewing angle and distance to be able to read your face and unlock.
    It doesnt just unlock in a fraction of a second without even having to lift it up like touch ID and Im not willing to give that up for something that's more cumbersome and awkward to use.
     
  18. PanAm-L1011 macrumors 6502

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    Well that’s too bad for you because after one week the X I’m so glad to be rid of Touch ID, the home button and big bezels. Hate to tell you, but the 8 and 8 Plus are going to be the last Apple phones to have those three things. The X is th future, the 8 is the past.
     
  19. cynics macrumors G4

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    I was very skeptical too. However after watching a friend use his iPhone X all night most of my skepticism is gone. It was unlocking quickly and accurately for him.

    For the most part I really like TouchID however this time of year my hands start drying out and TouchID can get a little finicky. The fact I work with my hands doesn't help either.

    At this point I have little worry about going to an iPhone with only FaceID. It will require a slight alteration here and there in my usage but I'm ok with that. With time I think I'll end up liking it better and future models should only get faster, more accurate and all around better.
     
  20. mrklaw macrumors 68000

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    If it was just unlocking I might agree it didn’t need to be replaced - its still better than touchID but not a big difference.

    But the other features it brings - not dimming the screen while you’re looking at it, automatically expanding private notifications, autofill passwords etc - make it a big step forward in overall phone usage IMO, and that will only improve going forward.
     
  21. bandrews macrumors 6502a

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    You’re talking like unlocking the phone is the only thing Face ID is used for. Every biometric secured app or settings menu now just opens without having to use Touch ID - I just tap my banking app icon and I’m in without any additional steps.
    When I’m driving and use Siri, for certain functions he used to say “you’ll need to unlock your phone first” which would require Touch ID. Now I don’t need to take my hands off the wheel.
     
  22. PanAm-L1011 macrumors 6502

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    I too love the apps that support Face ID. Such a great feature.
     
  23. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    How do you not need to take your hands off the wheel when you need to lift up the phone and slide up?
    So now instead of sticking your finger on the home you have to take your attention away from driving and bring up your phone and look at it.
    That's definitely not an improvement and an accident waiting to happen.
     
  24. bandrews macrumors 6502a

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    Because I have it mounted to an air vent on the dash. When you’re using Siri to play music, call or text someone you don’t need to swipe. You just speak. I don’t have to take my hands off the steering wheel once. Just a quick glance to the side. Even less interaction than Touch ID.
     

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