Why I can never switch from an iPhone

[DodgeV83]

Give it a rest please. Just because you love your iPhone, do not assume it is better than other devices out there. Many former iPhone users have switched to other devices and aren't looking back.*
I was one of those blind followers for a couple of years until I tried out the Galaxy Note. Couldn't be happier now and couldn't ever go back to something with the screen size of the current iPhone.
And yes....the Apple ecosystem argument is bogus. My Note fits nicely into my home and plays well with all the other Apple devices I own.

Dude, you have been shown tests scores and there are a handful of video's here you can see that shows what the new phones can do that the iPhone cant. *Pretty petty to say the GS3 hasnt been released when it is only a formality. It is coming and it has been tested and reviewed with glowing reports. You want to see something, the reviews are in this thread. Find them yourself.

As for you showing things the iPhone can do that Android cannot...you have also been shown that Android does many of those same things and again, you choose to ignore it. And i dont want to spend *money($49 for TomTom) using apps to make navigation better because it is already good out of the box. Getting IQ routes isnt anything near worth spending $49 on and it isnt that great.*
Just how much has it cost you to get those 29 photo apps anyways?

You seriously said the iPhone is better at navigation with a straight face. Come on Dude.

Or games or movies.. Time for this thread to close.

None of these replies have addressed why the iPhone 4S isn't the best in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

iPhone 4S is not better than the GS3 at videos, what are you talking about?

GS3 has a bigger, brighter HD screen, supports a plethora of video codecs, has the popout video feature, the ability to download videos from the web and do what you want with them, etc.

I can capture videos in 60fps HD, retroactively add smooth slow motion effects (can't really do this without 60fps), edit the video in apps like iMovie, or use Magisto and let the phone edit the video for me, then push a button and wirelessly play the video back on my HDTV.

If I choose, I can use VideoGrade to edit the brightness, saturation (turn it black and white), or recover shadows from the video, then have Cinemagram to turn it into an interesting cinemagraph:

When I'm done, I can upload to YouTube or Vimeo, use Stillshot to extract a photo frame from the video, or transfer it wirelessly to any of my home or remote computers.

Using Goodplayer I can both download videos from the web, and playback pretty much any codec out there.

When it comes to watching videos, yes, the bigger screen is better, but that's like complaining about the screen on your video camera being too small. It's not made to watch movies for hours at a time. I would argue that watching a movie on any size phone isn't a pleasant experience.

In any case, I give you that point, but overall, I believe the iPhone 4S wins the video category.

 

[blackhand1001]

None of these replies have addressed why the iPhone 4S isn't the best in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.



I can capture videos in 60fps HD, retroactively add smooth slow motion effects (can't really do this without 60fps), edit the video in apps like iMovie, or use Magisto and let the phone edit the video for me, then push a button and wirelessly play the video back on my HDTV.

If I choose, I can use VideoGrade to edit the brightness, saturation (turn it black and white), or recover shadows from the video, then have Cinemagram to turn it into an interesting cinemagraph:

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When I'm done, I can transfer it wirelessly to any of my home or remote computers, upload to YouTube or Vimeo, or use Stillshot to extract a photo frame from the video.

Using Goodplayer I can both download videos from the web, and playback pretty much any codec out there.

When it comes to watching videos, yes, the bigger screen is better, but that's like complaining about the screen on your video camera being too small. It's not made to watch movies for hours at a time. I would argue that watching a movie on any size phone isn't a pleasant experience.

In any case, I give you that point, but overall, I believe the iPhone 4S wins the video category.

You have to transfer it to your computer to upload it to youtube?

 

[cardinalryan]

Clearly you dont want to hear anything except possitive Apple feedback so why are you even discussion this? If your happy with your iPhone, then great. Apple has fallin behind whether you want to admit it or not.

^^THIS^^

I personally believe that Apple will fall by the wayside without Steve Jobs. As one poster put it earlier, Apple has really never been a success without SJ. I, for one, am deeply saddened that Steve is no longer with us because Apple and it's products were great due to his genius and existence.

I truly believe that Apple will never be the same again and I feel that Apple will never enjoy the success they did while being guided by Jobs.

Right now, Apple is prospering, but give it two to five years and the downfall will likely be in full swing. I don't want this to happen at all, but I feel it is very likely. Just my opinion.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Steve Jobs did enough for Apple to last awhile. You really don't need Steve to keep progressing what is already in existence. Others are fully capable. When technology takes a drastic turn in whatever direction, then Apple might be in trouble if they are not innovative enough. But for now and a good time longer, I don't see Apple taking any kind of fall.

 

[lordofthereef]

Steve Jobs did enough for Apple to last awhile. You really don't need Steve to keep progressing what is already in existence. Others are fully capable. When technology takes a drastic turn in whatever direction, then Apple might be in trouble if they are not innovative enough. But for now and a good time longer, I don't see Apple taking any kind of fall.

I think people are basing this statement on what happened to Apple when Steve left (was given the boot, essentially) the first time. Whether that will happen again, I certainly couldn't say. Jobs had a lot of time to appoint people that he felt would carry on his vision at Apple, something that I am not sure happened the first go around.

 

[DodgeV83]

You have to transfer it to your computer to upload it to youtube?

No, I do not. Will rewrite that part to be less confusing. Thanks!

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Well it was a differ time back then. Just before Apple came back strong with the iPod..... personal computers was barely a household norm and very few had laptops. Smartphones we're also not on the average persons radar, and there was probably one or two tablets w/ a Windows OS that cost thousands. Dial up was still the norm and HD memory was very limited compared to what we have today.

Apple did an amazing job at watching tech progress just enough and jumping in at the right time to wow the common(non geeky) people. They did it so well that they became the household name rather than what already existed. Tell the average person you have a Creative or Zune player and most will give you a clueless look, but you can probably find "iPod" in an actual dictionary. And HP gets no credit even tho they were first to introduce portable MP3 players. Same goes with iPhone.

 

[saberz]

Yes lets also compare new phones against the 4s..which is older than them. At the time the 4s was an all around better device.

We can say which is best when the new iphone comes out and compare it against older devices like the HTCOX, or SGS3. That would be a fair comparison(which is what you are saying and doing) by continually arguing.

A Phone is a phone, its preference who gives a **** if your android powered device and render x amount of frames per second over and iphone and vice versa. Use what makes you happy and stop trying to argue the point in order to justify your purchase.

I will say that the iPhone 4 is the only phone that my wife and i have had for near full term on contract. Reason? It still runs well, still durable and a huge assortment of apps.

I had an android device, i love Google(use all their services, pay for their picasa storage ect) and i love the idea of android.

I hate the devices. They are cheap/flimsy and i hate how every manufacturer tries to customize it(ie ruin it). I shouldnt have to use a custom rom (which i have). Its not the os, its not google, its the manufacturers and how they do all o the above and flood/saturate the market.

 

[matttye]

I can capture videos in 60fps HD, retroactively add smooth slow motion effects (can't really do this without 60fps), edit the video in apps like iMovie, or use Magisto and let the phone edit the video for me, then push a button and wirelessly play the video back on my HDTV.

If I choose, I can use VideoGrade to edit the brightness, saturation (turn it black and white), or recover shadows from the video, then have Cinemagram to turn it into an interesting cinemagraph:

Image

When I'm done, I can upload to YouTube or Vimeo, use Stillshot to extract a photo frame from the video, or transfer it wirelessly to any of my home or remote computers.

Using Goodplayer I can both download videos from the web, and playback pretty much any codec out there.

When it comes to watching videos, yes, the bigger screen is better, but that's like complaining about the screen on your video camera being too small. It's not made to watch movies for hours at a time. I would argue that watching a movie on any size phone isn't a pleasant experience.

In any case, I give you that point, but overall, I believe the iPhone 4S wins the video category.

I thought you were talking simply about video playback (which the Galaxy S3 kicks ass at), not recording, editing and uploading.

In any event, you spend too much time arsing about with photos and videos on your phone when you could do it in half the time on a tablet, laptop or desktop.

 

[Vegastouch]

Clearly you dont want to say anything besides anti-apple bashing, so why are you even discussing this? If you are happy with your random android phone, then great. Trying to shove your personal biases and views across as the truth for everyone is tacky and low whether you want to admit it or not.

You joined this forum only a few days ago. Ive talked possitive about the iPhone many times in the past and recently. I think it is a very good device, it has just fallen behind Android in a very short time which i said would happen back then due to them only putting out one phone with a major update once a year.

I used one for 2 years so you shouldnt speak of what you dont know. I have the same Galaxy S ive used for two years as well. I dont jump from phone to phone and dont waste money on multiple phones and dont need to have the latest and greatest so the next phone i get, ill have that for two years or close to it as well so ill get one that has the most features and unfortunately, that hasnt been the iPhone. They are just as slow to push out an update and the screen is too small and it lacks many thing i like that Android does.

And, i will be getting my Wife a iPad soon. Why? Because she uses my old iPod often just checking on some of the apps like TMZ for example. She loves that app and she could use it on an Android but she knows how to use an Apple device and isnt big on change so ill just get her an iPad. She doesnt have nor wants a phone with data..at least she hasnt yet.
Look at my sig....i have and use Apple devices. I just think Android is better these days when it comes to the phones and continue to get better faster.

So clearly, you havent a clue what your talking about when you talk about me. You.....you have a three day history so we all know what your agenda is. Seems we have a new fanboy aboard.

 

[Phone Junky]

In any event, you spend too much time arsing about with photos and videos on your phone when you could do it in half the time on a tablet, laptop or desktop.

He has to to justify this ridiculous thread.

 

[surjavarman]

He has to to justify this ridiculous thread.

I find it ridiculous that he uses 29 individual apps just for taking pictures. No one does that. Or 5 different apps for taking notes. Seriously who does that?

I had an iphone for years and all I used was the facebook app, youtube client, browser, camera app, evernote and a few other apps here and there. It makes me wonder if he actually uses all those apps or not. I think he doesn't and he is just trying to justify something.

 

[Vegastouch]

He has to to justify this ridiculous thread.

No kidding....he says my reply doesnt address why an Android is better at the things he likes. No kidding...and im not going to. I dont use the camera like that or edit videos on my phone like he does. I do not have not even one camera app on my phone.

I dont take a lot of pictures on my phone and if i do, i dont care if it is high quality. Clear yes but not photographer quality. I have an actual camera for that, but i did tell him there was a big review on the GS3 in detail in this tread just a little bit back,...... Will he go read it himself? Hec no, he just says we provide any reasons why and ignores the other stuff.

 

[DodgeV83]

No kidding....he says my reply doesnt address why an Android is better at the things he likes. No kidding...and im not going to. I dont use the camera like that or edit videos on my phone like he does. I do not have not even one camera app on my phone.

I named literally 10 categories:

Photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

I do not understand how not caring about two of them, results in not addressing any of them. Can you explain your position?

 

[Vegastouch]

I named literally 10 categories:

Photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

I do not understand how not caring about two of them, results in not addressing any of them. Can you explain your position?

*Ive never had a security issue
*Ive admitted Samsung is slow w/ the updates but i did get one major update and one minor one. HTC is much better as is Motorola and of course the Nexus series. Apple gets a major update once a year. Not earth shattering and not any better.
* Audio? I think the audio player for music i use is better. Not sure how many you use. I dont see an issue here.
*Navigation is much better on Android unless you want to spend $50 for an app on iPhone and even then, it isnt any better. IQ routes is nothing great. IMO, thats a fail for them. I could get another app but i dont need to.
*Games...i dont play games much at all. I have two games and one i havent played it yet after 2 months of installing...lol. So, i dont know about this and dont care. But if you want the nod...sure, you can have it.
* Voice command.....Siri isnt that great and many say they get bored with it or dont use it. I use mine sparingly and a alledged better one is coming w/ GS3 so we'll see.
*Hardware intregration and accessaries.....who cares about accessaries? If i need a case, ill get one online as i usually did even with the iPhone. What accessaries do you need? I didnt have a problem getting a screen protector either. Nothing wrong with Android hardware.

So, obviously, these are things you claim are better. But thats you and you seem very anal and thats ok. We clearly use our phones different. I actually use my phone as a phone and communication device. Some as other things as well such as internet, email, etc... but not nearly what you do. I think using 29 camera apps is pretty weird and anal but thats my opinion. I dont need to try and talkl you into getting an Android. I really dont care if you want one or not.

However....you can read This detailed review like i mentioned before so you can see whats coming. There are many things Android does that iPhone dont do...many things but if all you care about is using 29 different camera apps and 5 different apps for taking simple notes, you wont care. As mentioned there are many of the same apps and that seems to be your addiction. Apps!!! In that regard, Apple has more and many of the same ones they have cost more too.

Whatever floats your boat and im sure this didnt do what you wanted but again, i cant and dont care to do what you want because i dont use a fraction of those same apps.

 

[lordofthereef]

IMO, thats a fail for them. I could get another app but i dont need to.
*Games...i dont play games much at all. I have two games and one i havent played it yet after 2 months of installing...lol. So, i dont know about this and dont care. But if you want the nod...sure, you can have it.
*Hardware intregration and accessaries.....who cares about accessaries? If i need a case, ill get one online as i usually did even with the iPhone. What accessaries do you need? I didnt have a problem getting a screen protector either. Nothing wrong with Android hardware.

I agree with most of what you said, so I only quoted the parts of your comment that didn't work for me.

As far as games go, I would say that iOS is the clear winner here, however that *seems* to be getting better with tegra devices. That is to say, buy a tegra device if you care about games. Still, that requires being in the know a lot more than it does with an iOS device. AFAIK every iPhone, 3GS and up, will play any game on the appstore quite well.

As far as accessories, there are PLENTY of people that care about accessories. A case on a phone is just as much a fashion statement as is the shirt, pants, shoes, etc. that you wear if you choose it to be (and plenty of people do). If my case breaks, I can go into a gas station and be pretty safe knowing that I can get an iPhone 4/S case (that is to say they are EVERYWHERE).

 

[-aggie-]

He has to to justify this ridiculous thread.

The original post is not ridiculous (I guess it's informative for some...those who use the phone like the OP), but the going on
and on
and on
and on
and on
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and on about the same things by the OP is ridiculous. We get it. The OP can't leave the iPhone and thinks it's the best for the stuff he uses it for. At this point who cares?

 

[Vegastouch]

I agree with most of what you said, so I only quoted the parts of your comment that didn't work for me.

As far as games go, I would say that iOS is the clear winner here, however that *seems* to be getting better with tegra devices. That is to say, buy a tegra device if you care about games. Still, that requires being in the know a lot more than it does with an iOS device. AFAIK every iPhone, 3GS and up, will play any game on the appstore quite well.

As far as accessories, there are PLENTY of people that care about accessories. A case on a phone is just as much a fashion statement as is the shirt, pants, shoes, etc. that you wear if you choose it to be (and plenty of people do). If my case breaks, I can go into a gas station and be pretty safe knowing that I can get an iPhone 4/S case (that is to say they are EVERYWHERE).

Very true, but it certainly isnt the slightest factor for me when it comes to which phone ill get. Ebay always has many to choose from if i want a bigger variety and i usually buy a couple or so or wait a bit longer and get another eventually to have a backup. Not one to change it every week and why i dont care about it being plastic or not. I always get a case which usually is for a better grip as well as a protector.

 

[CrAkD]

you pointed out some pretty cool stuff but I got to admit some of the stuff you do is too geeky for even me. you automate EVERYTHING. after the first paragraph or alarms and timers I almost responded and asked why you didnt just have your mom follow you around instead? But it was a pretty impressive thread so kudos to you. I love my iPhone and would never switch to android either.

 

[Sensamic]

GS3 would have been a LOT better with a 4.3 screen.

4.8 is just too much to take the phone with you everywhere.

 

[ChrisTX]

I find it ridiculous that he uses 29 individual apps just for taking pictures. No one does that. Or 5 different apps for taking notes. Seriously who does that?

I had an iphone for years and all I used was the facebook app, youtube client, browser, camera app, evernote and a few other apps here and there. It makes me wonder if he actually uses all those apps or not. I think he doesn't and he is just trying to justify something.

The fact that they're available makes it worthwhile. Better to have access to them, than to not have them at all.

 

[chiefpavvy]

So, cliff notes, iOS -> Android. We knew that a long time ago.

Android is fine if you want to spend your lonely days seeking out custom ROMs and purging tasks to keep the phone stable. Not to mention praying for an update which for 95% will never come.

Yes, I'm an iPhone guy. Have been since October 2008 when I purchased my first iPhone, the iPhone 3G. Never looked back. The 4S despite being near a refresh remains the best all-around smart phone on the market, period. And that includes against this Galaxy S3 which fAndroids seem to have a hard-on for at the moment.

 

[surjavarman]

The fact that they're available makes it worthwhile. Better to have access to them, than to not have them at all.

He can just say that ios has more apps than android. Which is true and no one denies that. But he doesn't have to lie about that he uses all 29 camera apps.

How much money did that cost him (or did he root his iphone to run illegal apps)? And look at the amount of apps he is using. There is no way that anyone has enough time to use all those app. There just is not enough time during the day. It is impossible. Look at the storage space of the iphone. With all those apps and all the picture shooting and editing he is doing and all the music he's listening too and all the videos hes shooting. I don't believe he has enough storage space on his phone.

He claims that all of these apps are essential to him and that he can't live without that. I call BS on that based on my own experience with the iphone and that of my friends.


But seriously I just prefer android over ios when it comes to the operating system. But I would always look at hardware and price first. If apple has a phone that blows the competition away in pure hardware specs and the price is right then I am going to buy it. Cause I know that I am still productive on ios and its always comforting to know that I have the best selection of apps. But if not well I won't cry. I'll just buy android.

 

[DroidConvert]

Sucks for you I guess. I have a Razr Maxx and it lasts about 3 times longer than my 4s and its running LTE

It did, until I got the 4s.

The problem with the Maxx is that all Motorola did is strap on a bigger battery and did nothing at all to make the phone more efficient. The other thing is that putting a bigger battery changed the form factor, which is one of the reasons I bought the Razr to begin with. It went from a sleek and stylish phone to a slab.

 

[chiefpavvy]

LOL the "MAXX" is just a big phat battery strapped on the old Razr. Nothing special.

That's like me chaining up my 11,000mAh battery pack to my 4S and claiming I get awesome battery life. Whatever floats your boat.