Why I can never switch from an iPhone

[jclardy]

So, the OP says he can't switch from an iPhone. I say the OP can't switch from the App Store and the iOS ecosystem. Personally, I think I have enough reasons to be glad that I'm free of all that.

I agree with some of your points but being "free" from iOS and using android just means you are now stuck in Google's ecosystem. While you can use Amazon marketplace or web installs, the fact still remains that your apps will never run on a non-android device.

My point is the ecosystem is the most essential part of a device, not just an afterthought.

And as for the post about widgets to turn off wireless radios...I don't have to worry about that as my iPhone has Wifi, BT, GPS and 3G all enabled all the time and I still get more than a full days usage.

I feel for the most part that Android is great for tinkerers and micromanagers that enjoy tweaking every little setting on their device that most people don't care about. iOS on the other hand is better suited to people who want things to "just work". Installing a custom rom is great...but most people would rather just use the device out of the box.

It is akin to buying a PC. Some people just walk into BestBuy and buy something off the shelf. Others buy every part form newegg and assemble it themselves. To each their own.

 

[cardinalryan]

Yeah and when you're on LTE your batter life is equal to your screen size in hours.

See you in October and when you compare 20 more android models that still suck compared to the 4s but ya'll will compare em anyways and say "Is the new GS5000 the iphone killer?!" oh nope! been saying that since 2007, check the numbers apple has to any company and then come talk.

Better yet GTFO of macrumors and go to an android forum if you hate apple so much

Who is this?? The ghost of Steve Jobs?? I have NEVER seen people take more offense to others who like another device than Apple/iPhone fanboys. You would think somebody shot this guy's mother the way he reacted.

By the way...freaking loving my LTE speeds on my HTC One X and my battery life smokes what I ever got on my iPhone.

The iPhone is no longer the best device, deal with it.

 

[briantaylor619]

Who is this?? The ghost of Steve Jobs?? I have NEVER seen people take more offense to others who like another device than Apple/iPhone fanboys. You would think somebody shot this guy's mother the way he reacted.

Go on Xda and talk about the iPhone and you will get the same type of response.

The iPhone is no longer the best device, deal with it.

Now ^ THIS is an objective opinion you can trust!

 

[cardinalryan]

Go on Xda and talk about the iPhone and you will get the same type of response.



Now ^ THIS is an objective opinion you can trust!

So you can honestly say the the iPhone 4s is the best smartphone on the market? If you say yes, then I would have to question your knowledge of these types of things.

 

[briantaylor619]

So you can honestly say the the iPhone 4s is the best smartphone on the market? If you say yes, then I would have to question your knowledge of these types of things.

Back at you on your OneX bias

 

[cardinalryan]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

I'm not going to call you a liar, you may well have experienced all of these things, but let me just say that I have experienced none of them.

The HTC One X sings like Sinatra.

I like having the best device, right now the HOX is the best device. If the iPhone surpasses it with their next unit, I will own it...it's that simple.

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Back at you on your OneX bias

I really don't think I am biased. I can have any phone I want and I have owned every iPhone since day one of the first iPhone.

I even bought the One X just to have a device to play around with until the new iPhone comes out. To my surprise, the device is amazing and it is now hard for me to see myself going back to iOS.

If the new iPhone is better, then I will go back. It's a wait and see for me right now, but at this moment in time, the HOX, in my opinion, is clearly better.

 

[briantaylor619]

The HTC One X sings like Sinatra.

I like having the best device, right now the HOX is the best device.

I really don't think I am biased. I can have any phone I want and I have owned every iPhone since day one of the first iPhone.

To my surprise, the device is amazing and it is now hard for me to see myself going back to iOS.

If the new iPhone is better, then I will go back. It's a wait and see for me right now, but at this moment in time, the HOX, in my opinion, is clearly better.

You really don't think your biased? I would assume anyone that says "my xyz phone sings like sinatra" would understand they are quite biased indeed.

And yes, your opinion that the OneX is the best phone is just that: Your personal opinion. No one elses. So while you might feel this way I could feel different and who is right? Nobody... that's why you should always say "in my opinion" "for me" etc with any claim you make about a phone being best phone.

There is no best phone... simply personal opinion pissing contests

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

So you can honestly say the the iPhone 4s is the best smartphone on the market? If you say yes, then I would have to question your knowledge of these types of things.

Knowledge of what type of things? Specs, design, size, OS, features, benchmarks? All of that can only go so far as a deciding factor of what an individual feels is suited for them.

 

[DodgeV83]

So you can honestly say the the iPhone 4s is the best smartphone on the market? If you say yes, then I would have to question your knowledge of these types of things.

That depends on how you define "best". Of all smartphones released to date, no other phone beats the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, but that's besides the point.

I want the best phone at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

Unless you disagree with my statement that the iPhone is the best in all of those categories, and can substantiate why my claims are incorrect, then you are in-effect agreeing that the iPhone is "best" for me.

 

[nefan65]

So you can honestly say the the iPhone 4s is the best smartphone on the market? If you say yes, then I would have to question your knowledge of these types of things.

Define "Best"? If you want to sit and compare physical screen size and raw specs; fine. You win. You can now leave.

Best is different for everyone. I consider the "Best Overall Experience" the most important thing. Something that has solid battery life, runs all the apps I need efficiently, takes good pictures, and allows me to be efficient.

Your argument is that the biggest, shiniest is best for everyone, and if they disagree, they're fanboys, sheep, or stupid. Keep thinking that way, and very few will take anything you post seriously.

Oh, forgot to add! The iPhone has the best customer satisfaction of any smartphone out there. It's been on a few different reports. There has also been a number of reports stating that Android devices have the highest return rates for smartphones. For a device that's "The Best", why wouldn't their satisfaction ratings, and return rates be "The Best" ?

 

[cardinalryan]

Define "Best"? If you want to sit and compare physical screen size and raw specs; fine. You win. You can now leave.

Best is different for everyone. I consider the "Best Overall Experience" the most important thing. Something that has solid battery life, runs all the apps I need efficiently, takes good pictures, and allows me to be efficient.

Your argument is that the biggest, shiniest is best for everyone, and if they disagree, they're fanboys, sheep, or stupid. Keep thinking that way, and very few will take anything you post seriously.

Oh, forgot to add! The iPhone has the best customer satisfaction of any smartphone out there. It's been on a few different reports. There has also been a number of reports stating that Android devices have the highest return rates for smartphones. For a device that's "The Best", why wouldn't their satisfaction ratings, and return rates be "The Best" ?

Android is not the device, it is the OS. The device that I think is best today is the HTC One X. My opinion is derived after 5 years of exclusively using the iPhone. Do I think that the LG "whatevertheheck" running Android is better than the 4s? Of course not. Just so we are clear, it's the One X device that I think is fantastic.

 

[Vegastouch]

Quote:briantaylor619;14914468
Originally Posted by cardinalryan View Post
The iPhone is no longer the best device, deal with it.

Now ^ THIS is an objective opinion you can trust!

It is true whether you like it or not. Apple will be falling more behind each year.

 

[Phone Junky]

I want the best phone at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

Unless you disagree with my statement that the iPhone is the best in all of those categories, and can substantiate why my claims are incorrect, then you are in-effect agreeing that the iPhone is "best" for me.

I find it laughable that there are 14 pages of replies and arguing as to what phone is better. You say the iPhone is best "for you" and that is all well and good. The bigger question is "who cares what's best for you?". You think the iPhone is the end all-be all, good for you. Why the need to "tell the world"? Not happy enough just enjoying your device?

 

[blackhand1001]

That depends on how you define "best". Of all smartphones released to date, no other phone beats the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, but that's besides the point.

I want the best phone at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

Unless you disagree with my statement that the iPhone is the best in all of those categories, and can substantiate why my claims are incorrect, then you are in-effect agreeing that the iPhone is "best" for me.

The snapdragon s4 and the exynos in the GSIII both beat the iphone 4s's gpu. Also they both obliterate the a5 in cpu performance which matter for how fast the web functions and how fast tasks are completed.


RightWare Basemark ES 2.0 V1 Comparison (Native Resolution)
Taiji Hoverjet RAW
Apple iPhone 4S (960 x 640) 16.623 fps 30.178 fps 6.4 GFLOPS
Qualcomm MSM8960 (1024 x 600) 40.576 fps 59.586 fps 19.2 GFLOPS

This is the adreno 225. The newer adreno 300 series that will soon be used is a huge performance boost. You don't wanna see the cpu numbers its even worse there we're talking 4-5 times faster and it has less power consumption because its made on a 28nm process vs 40nm for the a5.

 

[Vegastouch]

That depends on how you define "best". Of all smartphones released to date, no other phone beats the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, but that's besides the point.

I want the best phone at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories.

Unless you disagree with my statement that the iPhone is the best in all of those categories, and can substantiate why my claims are incorrect, then you are in-effect agreeing that the iPhone is "best" for me.

That is false and i believe it was already proved to you and you continue to choose to ignore it. Though benchmarks dont mean much but bragging rights....and you seem to like to use them often. The Galaxy S3 benchmark for instance blew the 4S away ...so did the One X...but really , so what?

Look at what the GS3 and One X can do that the 4S cant and it is clearly way ahead of the game. We'll see about what Apple does. No matter what they do it will be hailed as genius in here.
Just remember, ...last time Jobs left Apple, they went downhill. This time regretably, he wont be back to save them which is too bad. I hope they continue to prosper but he was clearly the pioneer of the company.
Just a simple thing like a bigger screen will either have them lose millions of customers or gain millions.

 

[briantaylor619]

It is true whether you like it or not. Apple will be falling more behind each year.

Yeah right, because you said this it must be true

 

[DodgeV83]

That is false and i believe it was already proved to you and you continue to choose to ignore it. Though benchmarks dont mean much but bragging rights....and you seem to like to use them often. The Galaxy S3 benchmark for instance blew the 4S away ...so did the One X...but really , so what?

Look at what the GS3 and One X can do that the 4S cant and it is clearly way ahead of the game. We'll see about what Apple does. No matter what they do it will be hailed as genius in here.
Just remember, ...last time Jobs left Apple, they went downhill. This time regretably, he wont be back to save them which is too bad. I hope they continue to prosper but he was clearly the pioneer of the company.
Just a simple thing like a bigger screen will either have them lose millions of customers or gain millions.

Based on my google searches, the Galaxy S3 has not been released yet. The One X does not beat the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, CPU benchmarks only. Look it up.

In any case, I repeat, the iPhone 4S is the best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have filled this thread with the things the iPhone 4S can do that the One X and Galaxy S3 do not.

Show me your argument of how the aforementioned phones beat the iPhone 4S in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. This is my main statement with this thread, yet the majority of responses resort to logical fallacies.

You say to look at what the G3 and One X can do that the iPhone cannot, but whenever I challenge anyone to show me how these phones beat the iPhone 4S in these categories, I either get nothing, or the person admits that I'm right, but says it doesn't matter.

 

[Lindenhurst]

Based on my google searches, the Galaxy S3 has not been released yet. The One X does not beat the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, CPU benchmarks only. Look it up.

In any case, I repeat, the iPhone 4S is the best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have filled this thread with the things the iPhone 4S can do that the One X and Galaxy S3 do not.

Show me your argument of how the aforementioned phones beat the iPhone 4S in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. This is my main statement with this thread, yet the majority of responses resort to logical fallacies.

You say to look at what the G3 and One X can do that the iPhone cannot, but whenever I challenge anyone to show me how these phones beat the iPhone 4S in these categories, I either get nothing, or the person admits that I'm right, but says it doesn't matter.

Give it a rest please. Just because you love your iPhone, do not assume it is better than other devices out there. Many former iPhone users have switched to other devices and aren't looking back.
I was one of those blind followers for a couple of years until I tried out the Galaxy Note. Couldn't be happier now and couldn't ever go back to something with the screen size of the current iPhone.
And yes....the Apple ecosystem argument is bogus. My Note fits nicely into my home and plays well with all the other Apple devices I own.

 

[Vegastouch]

Yeah right, because you said this it must be true

Clearly you dont want to hear anything except possitive Apple feedback so why are you even discussion this? If your happy with your iPhone, then great. Apple has fallin behind whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[Vegastouch]

Based on my google searches, the Galaxy S3 has not been released yet. The One X does not beat the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, CPU benchmarks only. Look it up.

In any case, I repeat, the iPhone 4S is the best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have filled this thread with the things the iPhone 4S can do that the One X and Galaxy S3 do not.

Show me your argument of how the aforementioned phones beat the iPhone 4S in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. This is my main statement with this thread, yet the majority of responses resort to logical fallacies.

You say to look at what the G3 and One X can do that the iPhone cannot, but whenever I challenge anyone to show me how these phones beat the iPhone 4S in these categories, I either get nothing, or the person admits that I'm right, but says it doesn't matter.

Dude, you have been shown tests scores and there are a handful of video's here you can see that shows what the new phones can do that the iPhone cant. Pretty petty to say the GS3 hasnt been released when it is only a formality. It is coming and it has been tested and reviewed with glowing reports. You want to see something, the reviews are in this thread. Find them yourself.

As for you showing things the iPhone can do that Android cannot...you have also been shown that Android does many of those same things and again, you choose to ignore it. And i dont want to spend money($49 for TomTom) using apps to make navigation better because it is already good out of the box. Getting IQ routes isnt anything near worth spending $49 on and it isnt that great.
Just how much has it cost you to get those 29 photo apps anyways?

 

[blackhand1001]

Based on my google searches, the Galaxy S3 has not been released yet. The One X does not beat the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, CPU benchmarks only. Look it up.

In any case, I repeat, the iPhone 4S is the best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have filled this thread with the things the iPhone 4S can do that the One X and Galaxy S3 do not.

Show me your argument of how the aforementioned phones beat the iPhone 4S in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. This is my main statement with this thread, yet the majority of responses resort to logical fallacies.

You say to look at what the G3 and One X can do that the iPhone cannot, but whenever I challenge anyone to show me how these phones beat the iPhone 4S in these categories, I either get nothing, or the person admits that I'm right, but says it doesn't matter.

You seriously said the iPhone is better at navigation with a straight face. Come on Dude.

 

[matttye]

Based on my google searches, the Galaxy S3 has not been released yet. The One X does not beat the iPhone 4S in GPU benchmarks, CPU benchmarks only. Look it up.

In any case, I repeat, the iPhone 4S is the best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have filled this thread with the things the iPhone 4S can do that the One X and Galaxy S3 do not.

Show me your argument of how the aforementioned phones beat the iPhone 4S in photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. This is my main statement with this thread, yet the majority of responses resort to logical fallacies.

You say to look at what the G3 and One X can do that the iPhone cannot, but whenever I challenge anyone to show me how these phones beat the iPhone 4S in these categories, I either get nothing, or the person admits that I'm right, but says it doesn't matter.

iPhone 4S is not better than the GS3 at videos, what are you talking about?

GS3 has a bigger, brighter HD screen, supports a plethora of video codecs, has the popout video feature, the ability to download videos from the web and do what you want with them, etc.

 

[briantaylor619]

Clearly you dont want to hear anything except possitive Apple feedback so why are you even discussion this? If your happy with your iPhone, then great. Apple has fallin behind whether you want to admit it or not.

Clearly you dont want to say anything besides anti-apple bashing, so why are you even discussing this? If you are happy with your random android phone, then great. Trying to shove your personal biases and views across as the truth for everyone is tacky and low whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[-aggie-]

You seriously said the iPhone is better at navigation with a straight face. Come on Dude.

Or games or movies.. Time for this thread to close.

 

[lordofthereef]

Really?

http://blog.trendmicro.com/17-bad-mobile-apps-still-up-700000-downloads-so-far/ - March 2012 - 17 Malware apps removed from play store with 700,000 downloads already

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2381252,00.asp - March 2011 - 21 Malware apps removed from play store with 50,000 downloads already

http://venturebeat.com/2011/06/13/g...ted-android-apps-targeting-angry-birds-users/ - June 2011 10 malware apps removed from play store

Yes, really. Until now I honestly hadn't heard, which I believe is exactly the statement I made. Thanks for the links. I have learned something.

That said... look at the apps. The vast majority are Chinese in name (read: people in America/Europe, etc. likely aren't even downloading them). I think common sense goes a long way here still. Also, and this is not meant to defend anyone or either side of the argument really, I know number of downloads are often inflated (even in Apple's AppStore) in an attempt to make apps look popular and legit. The articles cite download stats, but I would be inclined to think it's not nearly as bad as the statistics show. Does this make it a non-issue? Absolutely not. Likely just less of one.