Why I can never switch from an iPhone

[DodgeV83]

Cost doesn't equal better. I had a house for sale in South Carolina for 6 months. I increased the cost and near instantly got two bids. In the end I settled at 5k above my initial value. This is a real estate technique to make people interested, then make them think they got a good deal. It was a nice place on the beach and in the end was still a good price, however it wasn't better due to the cost.

Apple will sell iPhones for as high as they can as long as people are willing to pay for it.

Besides, with contracts the 3GS is nearly free and the 4 is less then 100 bucks? I highly doubt too many people are overly worried about the cost of a phone nearly every high schooler owns.

And before you say, well the non subsidized price.....think of the people that would be buying them? Financially smart people ie people that can afford that.

Yes, I agree, you cannot use price to determine quality. You may have misinterpreted my post

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Just want to say the OP's post is informative and helpful. Its sad to see how this thread degenerated into a tit for tat. OP explained his reasoning for liking the ecosystem, no need to intervene and ruin it by saying Android this or Android that. Its a preference, don't push your opinion on others.

Now back on Topic, a few other apps I came across and really love are Wunderlist(very polished), Waze(per recommendation here, fantastic app), Bill Tracker, Google Search(yes I know, didnt think it would be that great but it is), and Wikipanion.

Waze and Bill Tracker are tops, Wunderlist is up there too! Never would have found em without this thread and members suggestions in other posts.

I agree. Bill Tracker is great! Will definitely be including it in my next update

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By the same token, it's presumptuous to claim that iOS is of higher quality than Android.

If you're basing it purely on price, sure, but I fail to see how having a preference of one platform over another is inherently presumptuous.

 

[Bentroxell]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

 

[surjavarman]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

I dont believe you. I think you never had a One X and are just lying. I think you just played with a demo model for 5 minutes.

 

[toothpaste]

STOP feeding this "toothpaste" troll. We all know IOS is better.

people are just hard headed sometimes

How am I a troll? I've been here longer than you and I have said I own Apple products. I just prefer Android.

Why are you and other people here so crazy about iOS that you can't have a discussion without personal attacks? I haven't criticized at all. This is what I despise the most. On linkedin, in the android group we had someone start a thread why android is better. I debated that person as well for making a "fanboy" statement. Why are people as you put it so "hard headed" all the time?

 

[Sedrick]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

I also call BS. You could have figured this much out playing with it at AT&T. Sounds like you were really disappointed it wasn't an exact clone of your iPhone.

 

[DroidConvert]

I'll make this simple...I can use my Android phone at LTE speeds and browse the web while on a call. Your iPhone can't, see you in Oct

/thread

I have to toggle my LTE on and off to save battery. LTE phones aren't quite yet ready for prime time because of the horrendous battery drain.

I have this wonderful phone but I'm constantly weighing using LTE vs preserving the battery.

 

[Vegastouch]

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

I found this to be quite funny. Really,... No click? I know some people have weird quirks about phones but this one is a first ive seen.

You know, if you spend some time with something, you will know exactly where a simple thing like the power button is with no problem. I never lose track of mine and it is on the top half where my right thumb would normally be. Pretty convenient i think.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

iTunes blows. Slow and a pain in the keester. Once you get your stuff loaded on your Android, after that it is a piece of cake to add things to it. I never heard of isyncer. I loaded all mine from iTunes the first time with Doubletwist and it wasnt real fast but i only had to use it once and havent used it since. Drag and drop since then.

Sounds like somone needs to spend more time learning their device....if you in fact even bought it.

 

[toothpaste]

I don't think he/she is trolling. While many of the points are incorrect, he/she seems to be genuinely making an argument he/she believes to be true.

toothpaste be a he.

brian taylor thinks bbc and the other news sites are rumor mills. How can I argue with that logic? I don't even want to. Sorry I even engaged in that conversation with him.

Only person in this thread to have a conversation with was you. Even though you are much calmer than the rest, you really don't want to hear alternatives it seems to me. This is to rile up the masses, that will inevitably end as a flame war. Which it clearly is turning out to be. Narrow minded and condescending.

I wanted to have a conversation with someone, not argue about nonsense, but it's better if I just go look at the setup thread pictures.

 

[DodgeV83]

toothpaste be a he.

brian taylor thinks bbc and the other news sites are rumor mills. How can I argue with that logic? I don't even want to. Sorry I even engaged in that conversation with him.

Only person in this thread to have a conversation with was you. Even though you are much calmer than the rest, you really don't want to hear alternatives it seems to me. This is to rile up the masses, that will inevitably end as a flame war. Which it clearly is turning out to be. Narrow minded and condescending.

I wanted to have a conversation with someone, not argue about nonsense, but it's better if I just go look at the setup thread pictures.

What makes you believe I don't want to hear alternatives? The only negative feedback you got from me, is regarding your point on Security, which I don't understand.

You started it with:

This is where the power of an open system truly shines.

Talked about Carrier IQ, which you believe is in both iOS and Android, then finished it with:

This area of complaint you have about Android is unfounded and you have been misinformed great.

Toothpaste, nowhere in your argument did you address why you believe Android is better than iOS on Security.

 

[DodgeV83]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

Wow Bentroxell, I'm shocked at the personal attacks you've received from this post! Honestly, this is why I made this thread, there's so much misinformation and hate on this forum.

This is an example of the Ad Hominem logical fallacy, an argument that attempts to counter another's claims or conclusions by attacking the person, rather than addressing the argument itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

 

[surjavarman]

I am going to ask this again. Since I still did not get an answer. But what exactly does ios do better than android?

So far I have heard

1) More Apps - I agree but that is not enough reason for most android users to migrate. They can just buy an ipod touch or an ipad if they want to play games.
2) Updates - does it matter when the current of android is already ahead of ios and you'll have to wait until the next iteration of ios to get the features that android has NOW? Think about the features android gingerbread had that ios 4 didn't have. Such as OTA updates and syncing, notifications and that sort of stuff. Most users are using custom roms anyway so they don't give a flying about manufacturers updates

Well what are specific core features of ios that makes it trump android? I am not just talking about third party support or after-sales services from apple.

 

[\-V-/]

I am going to ask this again. Since I still did not get an answer. But what exactly does ios do better than android?

So far I have heard

1) More Apps - I agree but that is not enough reason for most android users to migrate. They can just buy an ipod touch or an ipad if they want to play games.
2) Updates - does it matter when the current of android is already ahead of ios and you'll have to wait until the next iteration of ios to get the features that android has NOW? Think about the features android gingerbread had that ios 4 didn't have. Such as OTA updates and syncing, notifications and that sort of stuff. Most users are using custom roms anyway so they don't give a flying about manufacturers updates

Well what are specific core features of ios that makes it trump android? I am not just talking about third party support or after-sales services from apple.

It's a matter of preference and nothing more. People want to validate their purchase, but it really isn't relevant. Nobody needs to try and convince anyone of anything and nobody is going to change anyone's opinions about anything. It's just an endless circle. You already have your thoughts/feelings about Android, so why are you so desperately seeking an answer to your question? It's better for some and worse for others. We have choices for a reason. Pick whatever works for you and stop caring what other people think of your electronics purchases. It's a topic that will never have a concise conclusion. Pick which works best for your needs.

 

[MonkeySee....]

I am going to ask this again. Since I still did not get an answer. But what exactly does ios do better than android?

So far I have heard

1) More Apps - I agree but that is not enough reason for most android users to migrate. They can just buy an ipod touch or an ipad if they want to play games.
2) Updates - does it matter when the current of android is already ahead of ios and you'll have to wait until the next iteration of ios to get the features that android has NOW? Think about the features android gingerbread had that ios 4 didn't have. Such as OTA updates and syncing, notifications and that sort of stuff. Most users are using custom roms anyway so they don't give a flying about manufacturers updates

Well what are specific core features of ios that makes it trump android? I am not just talking about third party support or after-sales services from apple.

I like the way iOS works with iCloud across my AppleTV and iMac. Doesn't make it a better OS but i wouldn't get that with android.

 

[Jedii]

I found this to be quite funny. Really,... No click? I know some people have weird quirks about phones but this one is a first ive seen.

You know, if you spend some time with something, you will know exactly where a simple thing like the power button is with no problem. I never lose track of mine and it is on the top half where my right thumb would normally be. Pretty convenient i think.



iTunes blows. Slow and a pain in the keester. Once you get your stuff loaded on your Android, after that it is a piece of cake to add things to it. I never heard of isyncer. I loaded all mine from iTunes the first time with Doubletwist and it wasnt real fast but i only had to use it once and havent used it since. Drag and drop since then.

Sounds like somone needs to spend more time learning their device....if you in fact even bought it.

Agreed, Itunes is a disgraceful product, full of bloatware and is almost unusable on anything but OSX

 

[MonkeySee....]

Agreed, Itunes is a disgraceful product, full of bloatware and is almost unusable on anything but OSX

Full of bloatware??

iTunes for me is a great product. I have all my media running through it. I agree its not great on Windows but it is an Apple product which was designed for OSX.

Thankfully I don't use windows.

 

[Jedii]

Full of bloatware??

iTunes for me is a great product. I have all my media running through it. I agree its not great on Windows but it is an Apple product which was designed for OSX.

Thankfully I don't use windows.

Itunes comes with Quicktime, and a number of services like Bonjour.. = bloatware.

 

[DodgeV83]

I am going to ask this again. Since I still did not get an answer. But what exactly does ios do better than android?

So far I have heard

1) More Apps - I agree but that is not enough reason for most android users to migrate. They can just buy an ipod touch or an ipad if they want to play games.
2) Updates - does it matter when the current of android is already ahead of ios and you'll have to wait until the next iteration of ios to get the features that android has NOW? Think about the features android gingerbread had that ios 4 didn't have. Such as OTA updates and syncing, notifications and that sort of stuff. Most users are using custom roms anyway so they don't give a flying about manufacturers updates

Well what are specific core features of ios that makes it trump android? I am not just talking about third party support or after-sales services from apple.

There are three main reasons people choose an OS, software, security and stability.

Ask a Windows user why he uses Windows over OSX, and he'll probably mention the software he wants that isn't compatible. Ask an OSX user why he chooses OSX over Windows, and he'll probably mention something about viruses and stability. Same for a Linux user, viruses and stability.

Gamers don't choose Windows for Solitaire.

It doesn't make sense to ask people why they think one OS is better than the other, while excluding everything people look for in an OS.

 

[nefan65]

I am going to ask this again. Since I still did not get an answer. But what exactly does ios do better than android?

So far I have heard

1) More Apps - I agree but that is not enough reason for most android users to migrate. They can just buy an ipod touch or an ipad if they want to play games.
2) Updates - does it matter when the current of android is already ahead of ios and you'll have to wait until the next iteration of ios to get the features that android has NOW? Think about the features android gingerbread had that ios 4 didn't have. Such as OTA updates and syncing, notifications and that sort of stuff. Most users are using custom roms anyway so they don't give a flying about manufacturers updates

Well what are specific core features of ios that makes it trump android? I am not just talking about third party support or after-sales services from apple.

For me:

- Quality/Build of both the software/hardware
- Because of the 2 items above, I believe that makes for a more quality, and solid ecosystem. One of the reasons I chose the platform. Syncs with all of my devices easily. I've also invested into that ecosystem, and don't want to lose it for some features I don't need/want.
- Support is incredible. I've only had to use the Genius Bar twice. In both instances they did not hesitate, or make me jump through hoops. They either fixed the issue immediately, or just outright replaced the unit without hesitation.

My 2 cents

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Itunes comes with Quicktime, and a number of services like Bonjour.. = bloatware.

I use, and have used both of those often. Not bloatware for me.

 

[Lindenhurst]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:

The Camera - While the camera is capable of producing beautiful photos in moderate to good lighting, it lacks elsewhere. Low light performance is terrible. Photos are extremely noisy. Image stabilization is also pretty bad, which is very noticeable in videos. Also, videos are shot at about 24 frames per second. The iPhone 4(S) shoots at a buttery smooth 30fps.

I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

The power butten - It's tiny, doesn't make a click, and is located on the front half of the top of the device. The iPhone power button is way easier to find and makes a satisfying click.

No home button - I still miss not being able to turn my phone on with the home button as I have smaller/average sized hands and it's a little difficult to reach the home button with one hand.

Media control - Sucks on android. Double click the home button on iOS and any media you have playing you can, pause, play, or go next or back. It's so easy, quick, and useful.

Multitasking - absolutely blows on the One X. It keeps killing my apps that I just used. On iOS it will take me right back to where I left off. The One X keeps reloading whatever app I was in. I also hate the way you have to swipe through apps to select/kill them. Stock ICS would be much preferred.

Volume rocker - Pretty difficult to press, or at least tell if your pressing volume up vs down. It barely sticks out of the side of the device. The volume buttons on the iPhone are much easier to use.

Syncing - iTunes synces absolutely perfectly with the iphone. Even using iSyncr for android, it wouldn't sync "checked songs only" even though I had it selected, and most of my album artwork was not correct.

Overall polish - iOS is just insanely more polished than android. This is due to the fact that there are 23409183041 android phones. And it's impossible for all apps to be optimized for just one phone. I would come across so many random problems with android apps, where almost all my iOS apps worked perfectly.

In conclusion, the HTC One X, or android in general, is the better choice for some people, but I feel like it takes too much tweaking to make it work "right". If you just want your phone to just work, and to work very, very well go with the iPhone. I'm excited to see what the next gen iPhone has to offer.

If it really "just works", then why are there so many threads on this forum about various iPhone problems?

 

[omgitswes]

I've had the HTC One X on AT&T for almost a week now and I'm definitely going to return it soon. Things I don't like:



I hate the mail app - Yes you can add attachments but all my messages have a ton of just code in them where on my iphone there are pictures. Also, the messages are zoomed in and way too big to be viewed on the screen. Also, iOS seems to push email to me faster than my One X, even though I have the One X set to push mail at all times.

Didn't read any further after this. Just download an email app

 

[DodgeV83]

If it really "just works", then why are there so many threads on this forum about various iPhone problems?

The feeling that something "just works" is relative.

After using Android for a bit, he picks up his iPhone and everything seems to "just work". However, had Android been easier to use, didn't have give him constant bugs where he can't multitask, read his email, easily control his media, sync with iTunes, take photos that aren't noisy, and change the volume...he probably wouldn't have said anything.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Itunes comes with Quicktime, and a number of services like Bonjour.. = bloatware.

You can't be serious. Bonjour works very well. Most people have no idea what it is or it's use, so they just assume bloatware. QuickTime is not really needed for the average user, but for those who use the pro version, it work very well.

Besides, You can uninstall/delete Bonjour & QuickTime very easily.

 

[DodgeV83]

Didn't read any further after this. Just download an email app

My biggest gripe with Android email apps, both the default ones, and the ones in the Google store, is the lack of conversation view. Last I checked, email on Android looked like this:

The left side is the iPhone, all related emails are grouped together. The middle is the Droid Bionic, where it tries to group them like the iPhone, but doesn't get them all. The right is the Galaxy Nexus, where all emails are in one flat list.

Is this still an accurate depiction of email apps on Android?

 

[JerseyDoug]

The feeling that something "just works" is relative.

After using Android for a bit, he picks up his iPhone and everything seems to "just work". However, had Android been easier to use, didn't have give him constant bugs where he can't multitask, read his email, easily control his media, sync with iTunes, take photos that aren't noisy, and change the volume...he probably wouldn't have said anything.

I agree.

I am one of the "it just works" folks. My first computer was an Apple IIe, then pcs, a sun workstation for kicks and now a MacBook pro. Used to own a Motorola Droid Pro and now own an iPhone 4s and new iPad. So much for background.

Why do I love my iPhone? Because it doesn't cause ME any problems. It just works. if someone's Android "just works" for them. Great. Wasn't my personal experience.

To the OP, good thread, overall.

 

[mrbutters]

I have to toggle my LTE on and off to save battery. LTE phones aren't quite yet ready for prime time because of the horrendous battery drain.

I have this wonderful phone but I'm constantly weighing using LTE vs preserving the battery.

Sucks for you I guess. I have a Razr Maxx and it lasts about 3 times longer than my 4s and its running LTE

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So as long as you have LTE in your area. Again, this is a small percentage of folks.

See you in October 2020.

200 million is a small percentage? There are roughly 311,591,917 in the US. I am no math expert but that would appear to be MOST, not a "small" percentage. Don't hate just because you live in BFE