It is sad. I am really missing Steve Jobs and that magical "One more thing"...
...who else feels the same and missing the "one note thing"?
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Why I'm switching to PC after 17 years of being on a Mac
- Thread starter 67952
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
It is sad. I am really missing Steve Jobs and that magical "One more thing"...
...who else feels the same and missing the "one note thing"?
Boy, it's like people leaving Twitter or Facebook. They just can't seem to do it without a whole speech about what their reasoning is.
Of course, these orations come from self-professed professionals, where 5% more CPU power or more RAM makes all the difference with their air-tight schedule. Just five minutes of extra time spent exporting a project is a lost client, though they've somehow got time to write a sermon about their choice on a public forum.
Goodbye and enjoy the world of Windows. However if your decision really makes such a significant difference, you wouldn't need to publicly assure everybody of that. You'd just be sat down, actually doing something productive.
Of course, these orations come from self-professed professionals, where 5% more CPU power or more RAM makes all the difference with their air-tight schedule. Just five minutes of extra time spent exporting a project is a lost client, though they've somehow got time to write a sermon about their choice on a public forum.
Goodbye and enjoy the world of Windows. However if your decision really makes such a significant difference, you wouldn't need to publicly assure everybody of that. You'd just be sat down, actually doing something productive.
What's even better is the people who come to be passive aggressive and act like they don't care they are leaving, yet make a post saying, I don't care, good bye have fun with windows.
Actually I find these pronouncements sort of useful myself. While it might be a bit melodramatic and the debate could be brought up in a different way, it's interesting to find out what people like and don't like about the computers they are using and the back and forth discussions. A lot of the posts are pretty informative.
Is this a joke? The base 2016 15" starts at $2399 and can go all the way up to $4299. Also, the original base price for the 15" was $1699, not $1999. The 2008 did start at $1999 ... which is still several hundred dollars less than the base config now. Macs haven't been this starting price since 2007. So for a decade they have been much less than they are now ... so there is very much a reason to complain, I'm sorry.Cool story Bro. I guess you forgot about the old days when the 15" MacBook Pros cost over $2K.
Last edited:
Are you using Windows on a piece of crap? Windows 10 on a fast PC is not slow at all. These comparisons are ridiculous. You guys compare OS X running on a 2000 dollar machine with 3 GB/sec SSDs and quad i7's versus Windows running on a steaming garbage pile. If you want to actually compare the Windows experience then compare it after running it on a comparable machine.
True... older Macbook Pros could get above $2,000.
But today's 15" Macbook Pro now starts at $2,400.
Aren't prices supposed to go down with each generation?
The Macbook Air, for instance, started life at $1,800. And it was over $3,000 with the SSD.
But subsequent Macbook Airs with SSD eventually fell to around $1,000. That's the way it should be. Technology gets cheaper over time.
The point is... these new Macbook Pros are more expensive than previous generation Macbook Pros. And some people don't think the rise in price is worth it.
Macs always carried a high pricetag... but this getting ridiculous.
If you're too broke to afford a mac then go ahead and get a windows. No need to announce it every time
The 2012 15" retina MacBook Pro started at $2199, with way less capability than this 2016 model.
True... older Macbook Pros could get above $2,000.
But today's 15" Macbook Pro now starts at $2,400.
Aren't prices supposed to go down with each generation?
The Macbook Air, for instance, started life at $1,800. And it was over $3,000 with the SSD.
But subsequent Macbook Airs with SSD eventually fell to around $1,000. That's the way it should be. Technology gets cheaper over time.
The point is... these new Macbook Pros are more expensive than previous generation Macbook Pros. And some people don't think the rise in price is worth it.
Macs always carried a high pricetag... but this getting ridiculous.
The MacBook Air fell drastically in price because they basically never updated it in any meaningful way after the first generation or so. Everyone is complaining that these MacBook Pros aren't 'Pro' enough despite having absolutely cutting edge components. Yet you think you should be able to get both cutting edge and cheap?
I miss Steve Jobs too and his magical presentations and his loss was tragic. However that does not keep me from appreciating Apple products today and I love my new 2016 15" MacBook Pro as much as any new Apple product I have purchased in the past.
The Macbook Air changed quite a bit when they introduced the 2nd generation model. It eventually got a very fast PCIe SSD as standard equipment.
And it was also available with full-wattage CPUs... not power-sipping CPUs. It ended up being a powerful capable machine despite it being the lowest price Mac laptop.
Value for dollar ratio was very high.
If I'm to believe the reviews... all this "cutting edge" tech has resulted in it actually being slower in some benchmarks... with lower battery life... while experiencing some fatal GPU glitches.
And of top of all that... it's cost more than the previous model.
That's the issue people are having.
If the price was the same... it probably wouldn't be as big of a problem.
But Apple charges more money... while delivering somewhat of a worse experience. That's courageous
Windows 10 is a lot smoother than Mac OS, the animations are crisp unlike even the top end Macs which still suffer from UI lag.
Who says that?
The base 15" now contains a dgpu and a touchbar. Besides normal upgrades like faster SSD, better screen, smaller size, new design, bigger trackpad.
They clearly deliver more value. Question is, is that worth the costs for you?
Damn it I forgot to create a thread last year when I built a desktop PC with Windows 10. But then again I use both as they aren't mutually exclusive.
No, I don't have a choice. If I want butterfly keyboard (I actually love the keyboard), newer tech, better screen, etc., the choice is laptop with gimmick only. Buying older gen with the same price tag as before is not really an option.
I'll probably be switching myself eventually as well if I need to go mobile, but for now, my Hackintosh build with Windows for gaming runs circles around almost every Mac on the market for about 1/4th the price (literally).
Apple's really hitting rock bottom by selling overpriced junk. OS X is getting pretty damn awful too with that System Integrity Protection garbage, I can't use TotalFinder or XtraFinder anymore.
Apple's really hitting rock bottom by selling overpriced junk. OS X is getting pretty damn awful too with that System Integrity Protection garbage, I can't use TotalFinder or XtraFinder anymore.
Damn. This post should be a sticky on MR. It applies to 90 percent of posters here...and eviscerates their arguments and phony "experiences".
BTW, Didn't I pay well over $2000 for my 15" 2010 back then? Yeah it had a couple upgrades but this one wasn't that much more for 6+ years of newer tech and inflation.
Last edited:
Your post was intended to make it sound like the 'usual' price for the 15" has been $1699 with a 'high' of $1999. Far from it.
Back to pricing again. What is the point of comparing prices from 5 or 10 years ago. These are priced for the free market. Macs are always a poor value, spec-wise compared to PC's. Nothing new. Who are you to say that the price gap is too much or not. These are not priced for you but for the larger market. Companies raise prices as much as they can for what the market will bear. If the prices are too high, people won't buy them. First year redesign likely has some R&D costs factored in and it's well known prices will drop next year. They also raise prices simply due to increasing costs or for bigger profits. If the value is not there, don't buy it. I don't get what the point is. Yes they are expensive. Apple is not out to get you. I don't think the $300 or whatever it is, is making or breaking the decision for you. If it is, wait until next year.
I don't think any $2,500 laptop is priced for the "larger market"
Also... the people complaining about the prices here are MacRumors forum members.
If they are having a problem with the prices... lord help everyone else
Last edited: