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If users have to buy new hardware to get typing, or the other "old thing", as smoothly as it did, I would call it BS.

Forgetting the fact that it's a BETA, let me ask you a question. If you continue to use the phone you have for 10 years, do you expect that the 2024 iOS should still make your 10+ year old phone work just as good as it did originally? I hope your answer is no (it probably won't work at all) and I hope you would say no because it would be ridiculous to think a 10 year old phone could handle the freaky new software we'll one day have.

Software is getting more and more powerful and I DON'T expect it to be held back for any reason because it's trying to keep old phones working at 100%. So, yes, I expect it won't be as smooth. If it was my phone and it bothered me that much I will a) not upgrade or b) buy a new phone.

Simple solutions to a not unexpected technology issue.
 
Please explain exactly how that's true and or possible.
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3GS and 4 share the same GPU(SGX535) but the 4 has 4x of pixel for GPU to handle. In graphic test, 4 is far behind than 3GS.
 
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Forgetting the fact that it's a BETA, let me ask you a question. If you continue to use the phone you have for 10 years, do you expect that the 2024 iOS should still make your 10+ year old phone work just as good as it did originally? I hope your answer is no (it probably won't work at all) and I hope you would say no because it would be ridiculous to think a 10 year old phone could handle the freaky new software we'll one day have.

Software is getting more and more powerful and I DON'T expect it to be held back for any reason because it's trying to keep old phones working at 100%. So, yes, I expect it won't be as smooth. If it was my phone and it bothered me that much I will a) not upgrade or b) buy a new phone.

Simple solutions to a not unexpected technology issue.
If the OS can support the hardware then at least the essential basic things (like typing that was used as an example) should be working the same as they did before.
 
Forgetting the fact that it's a BETA, let me ask you a question. If you continue to use the phone you have for 10 years, do you expect that the 2024 iOS should still make your 10+ year old phone work just as good as it did originally? I hope your answer is no (it probably won't work at all) and I hope you would say no because it would be ridiculous to think a 10 year old phone could handle the freaky new software we'll one day have.

Software is getting more and more powerful and I DON'T expect it to be held back for any reason because it's trying to keep old phones working at 100%. So, yes, I expect it won't be as smooth. If it was my phone and it bothered me that much I will a) not upgrade or b) buy a new phone.

Simple solutions to a not unexpected technology issue.

You are so unlucky, I had a PC bought 11 years ago running windows XP and typing on it is absolutely fine.
 
When security is seen as recommended or is based on how people like or feel about something...that's a fail on all accounts. The fact that people might be ignorant on purpose or without knowing isn't even an excuse of any kind.

So how long should a phone be supported and should it be supported to the detriment of future technology? (which I believe would happen)

As for apps, with the redesign of the OS you can only expect more and more apps to update quicker to fit in and thus often lose support for older OS versions.

Yes they will, because they are looking forward, not behind. They don't want their software to be held back because people have old phones. Updates are not mandatory most of the time so people who don't upgrade hardware and don't upgrade their iOS can just NOT upgrade the apps.

I think technology would move much faster if it didn't have to look back at all. However, realty forces it to look back to some extent and I think there are consequences of that to both sides.

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You are so unlucky, I had a PC bought 11 years ago running windows XP and typing on it is absolutely fine.

What are you even talking about? Why am I unlucky? You have no idea what i have (certainly not Windows XP though).

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If the OS can support the hardware then at least the essential basic things (like typing that was used as an example) should be working the same as they did before.

Let's agree to disagree. I think to some extent you're right but there is a point where that becomes untrue in my opinion.
 
What are you even talking about? Why am I unlucky? You have no idea what i have (certainly not Windows XP though).

Function like typing is so basic, if it worked 10 years ago. It should work now even after some software update.

I'm sorry but it really like you make something ridiculous to defend Apple.
 
Went back to iOS 6 today. Instantly noticeable was how much faster the animations are. It makes the whole experience much better. Let's hope they fix it by the GM!
 
So how long should a phone be supported and should it be supported to the detriment of future technology? (which I believe would happen)



Yes they will, because they are looking forward, not behind. They don't want their software to be held back because people have old phones. Updates are not mandatory most of the time so people who don't upgrade hardware and don't upgrade their iOS can just NOT upgrade the apps.

I think technology would move much faster if it didn't have to look back at all. However, realty forces it to look back to some extent and I think there are consequences of that to both sides.

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What are you even talking about? Why am I unlucky? You have no idea what i have (certainly not Windows XP though).

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Let's agree to disagree. I think to some extent you're right but there is a point where that becomes untrue in my opinion.
Apple stops support for hardware they feel that can't really use a new OS well. If Apple is still supporting the hardware with a new OS then clearly even they themselves are saying that it should be fine and not detrimentally affected by it (at least most certainly not when it comes to essential basics like just plain typing, as in the example that was brought up and discussed).
 
Yikes, this isn't acceptable... hopefully people are submitting this as a bug to Apple...

From what I've heard about iOS 7 laggy animations for older devices like iPhone 4S (when compared to iOS 6), I can't see myself upgrading to 7... especially since GM is just around the corner. Maybe I'll wait for a point release.
 
Yikes, this isn't acceptable... hopefully people are submitting this as a bug to Apple...

From what I've heard about iOS 7 laggy animations for older devices like iPhone 4S (when compared to iOS 6), I can't see myself upgrading to 7... especially since GM is just around the corner. Maybe I'll wait for a point release.

Again, it's not that the animation is laggy, it's that you have to wait for it to finish completely before you can interact with your phone. I doubt it will still be that way in the GM.
 
Again: IT'S A BETA!
And that means that design decisions are likely to change? And that also means that things of this nature can't be discussed?

How many times has "it's a beta" already been dealt with and addressed in this thread? Yet simply repeating that (without anything else at all) makes a useful post of some sort? :rolleyes:

Again: IT'S A DISCUSSION! ;)
 
Now that I've stuck with iOS 7 for a couple weeks I am starting to notice the animations less and less. They are definitely there, and I feel like I can navigate around faster than they'll allow, but it doesn't feel as annoying anymore. Someone using iOS 7 as for their first iOS experience probably wouldn't think twice about it.
 
And it's OUT.

However slow animations is still a huge problem. Don't be too hopeful, iPhone 5s won't be any different. It's a software issue, not hardware.

And Apple did absolutely nothing to fix it.
 
And it's OUT.

However slow animations is still a huge problem. Don't be too hopeful, iPhone 5s won't be any different. It's a software issue, not hardware.

And Apple did absolutely nothing to fix it.

Purely subjective.

The animations do not bother me in the least.
 
Who really swipes like that?

I swipe like that when I'm trying to flick through photos fast. Or through the app switcher. In those scenarios, waiting for each animation to finish before I can swipe again would be annoying for me.

I hope this doesn't also affect up/down swiping on long pages What about when you have a really long page and you want sort of 'flick' the page up to zoom past a whole load of text. You're going to have to wait until the page slows down, slows down, slower, down to a crawl, and finally stops before you can start to move it around again. Or hope that you managed to execute the perfect swipe and land exactly where you wanted it to. Which I'm sure you will because these things aren't a problem for you.
 
And it's OUT.

However slow animations is still a huge problem. Don't be too hopeful, iPhone 5s won't be any different. It's a software issue, not hardware.

And Apple did absolutely nothing to fix it.
Don't think there's anything to fix in their eyes--it's like that by design (form over function).
 
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