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Why is Apple selling a cheap phone and not a larger screen phone? Apple is regressing

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atlatnesiti said:
Yet another "finger goes from here to here" advocate... LOL
BTW; iPhone 5 have enough room to implement 4.7" screen. There is so much wasted space that can be utilised to fit a larger screen size in current form factor.
Notice that the back plates align perfectly to the front screen size.
Tech to implement is/(was 10 moths ago) here today, only Apple can make it happen and since we did not see any snapshots of front of upcoming 5S, maybe, just maybe this will be the big surprise announcement of upcoming September Keynote, I hope so anyway...
PS; Apparently Apple didn't implement this screen format in iPhone 5 was due to Sharp unable to provide low voltage screens at the time of iPhone 5 release, they are now... Go and figure...
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That was the most unwarranted attack of MY personal preference I've ever seen. It's not a matter of any of the crap in your rant. I simply like the current iPhone size. Period. No more to the matter. When they replace the current iPhone with a bigger one, I'll buy it. But currently, I'm happy. I wasn't speaking for you.
 
JackieInCo said:
My Boss sold his iPhone 5 after just a few months because he needed a larger screen because, well, he's a big guy with big fingers. He's used a Note ever since.
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AND....

“Study finds 20% of Apple iPhone users switched away from Android in past year”

“Apple, though, has been particularly successful in luring users away from the Android mobile operating system to its own iOS platform.”


http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...hone-users-switched-from-android-in-past-year
 
atlatnesiti said:
Yet another "finger goes from here to here" advocate... LOL
BTW; iPhone 5 have enough room to implement 4.7" screen. There is so much wasted space that can be utilised to fit a larger screen size in current form factor.
Notice that the back plates align perfectly to the front screen size.
Tech to implement is/(was 10 moths ago) here today, only Apple can make it happen and since we did not see any snapshots of front of upcoming 5S, maybe, just maybe this will be the big surprise announcement of upcoming September Keynote, I hope so anyway...
PS; Apparently Apple didn't implement this screen format in iPhone 5 was due to Sharp unable to provide low voltage screens at the time of iPhone 5 release, they are now... Go and figure...
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I agree with you 99%. The 1% that i don't agree is the possible size of the screen: keeping the same dimensions of the iphone 5, the possible screen size would be 4.5''. and that, imho, would be perfect.

heck, i would be happy even if the screen is 4.3'' like this:

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Motherload0211 said:
AND....

“Study finds 20% of Apple iPhone users switched away from Android in past year”

“Apple, though, has been particularly successful in luring users away from the Android mobile operating system to its own iOS platform.”


http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...hone-users-switched-from-android-in-past-year
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Enjoy your statistics ;) Relevant to US only which means nothing I'm afraid...

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tazuki said:
I agree with you 99%. The 1% that i don't agree is the possible size of the screen: keeping the same dimensions of the iphone 5, the possible screen size would be 4.5''. and that, imho, would be perfect.

heck, i would be happy even if the screen is 4.3'' like this:

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Didn't see that one b4, looks cool :)
 
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NT1440 said:
How can you say that their hardware is subpar and then focus only on a friggin screen? Do you have any idea what is in the pipeline with apple's own silicon? They are moving rapidly towards designing chips entirely in house, you'll probably be eating your own words in just a few years time. The entire rest of the industry is just relying on what samsung and others are selling (again, talking SoC's here). All that means is that one competitor can say that they have chip X this month, then next month theres a new flagship with the same chip everyone has been expecting for months.

Apple is investing away from the off the shelf component market and designing entirely in house. That. Is. Huge.
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Yes, designing components entirely in house is a pretty big deal, more QC, lower cost.

However, the majority of iPhone users who don't browse forums like these do not care much about what chip is in their handset, all they know is that its fast and its getting faster with each iteration.

What are the features that GENERAL users care about the most: imho Battery life, processing speed, graphics, and finally screen size.

I am going to reiterate my point. For those who don't care for a bigger screen, stay with the iP 5 and its successors. Apple has all to gain to provide MORE options to its users. It hasn't because they've grown too comfortable with there current market leader position and again this is solely due to its OS and ecosystem.
 
I've never had an Apple product I didn't love. (And... Counting on fingers and toes... That's about every product they have made.) I would be extremely disappointed in a company who just did what everyone else was doing. Please, to anyone who wants a bigger screen... Please go get one. I like my originality. Oh, and pick up a surface and a PC while you're at it, because the usability is the same across all three. As for me, I will be a little bit smarter, using my beloved iPad for iPad purposes, and my future iPhone (I currently have an Android device and can't stand it) for PHONE purposes, and my Mac to get lots of work done. Oh, and all three of these products function together and independently seamlessly. Seriously though, go buy your plastic phone. Or even your aluminum phone with a slightly bigger screen that disappoints in overall functionality (like I said, I currently own...).
 
atlatnesiti said:
I just wonder, what would be the reaction to Apple releasing bigger screen iPhone from all of you defending the current iPhone 5 screen format?
Would you readily embrace it, or would you criticise Apple''s decision to do so?
I think I know the answer already ;)
Bigger iPhone will come eventually, it will NOT stay 4" forever...
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I have never had an iPhone because of screen size, I have really big hands so it would be really nice and give me a chance to really try out iOS
 
suprakc said:
I've never had an Apple product I didn't love. (And... Counting on fingers and toes... That's about every product they have made.) I would be extremely disappointed in a company who just did what everyone else was doing. Please, to anyone who wants a bigger screen... Please go get one. I like my originality. Oh, and pick up a surface and a PC while you're at it, because the usability is the same across all three. As for me, I will be a little bit smarter, using my beloved iPad for iPad purposes, and my future iPhone (I currently have an Android device and can't stand it) for PHONE purposes, and my Mac to get lots of work done. Oh, and all three of these products function together and independently seamlessly. Seriously though, go buy your plastic phone. Or even your aluminum phone with a slightly bigger screen that disappoints in overall functionality (like I said, I currently own...).
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yeah..no.
 
I'd also like a bigger iPhone, or at least the option of buying one. It's not about Apple regressing, as they aren't shrinking the screen. I just think they are sticking with their release model which means a "5S" and I think next year we'll see a 6 with a larger screen. It's nothing personal.
 
andrew8404 said:
I don't get the whole cheap phone from apple. They already sell the older gens for cheap. What's the difference? And yes Apple needs to make a bigger screen. I switched to Android years ago and haven't looked back. And those that say a 4.7 or 5 is too big obviously have girl hands or haven't used one for an extended period of time.
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The difference is so obvious. It is surprising that people still don't get it.

Would you rather have, at the same price, an iPhone 4S with a smaller screen, outdated internals, outdated charger port, OR brand new, better internals, bigger screen, and updated port, camera, etc. etc.

Really? Do I even have to ask? It will be obvious to the public. People will gobble it up.
 
mtnbikerva1 said:
The competition gives us choice.
Apple seems to want to get rid of it of its customers.
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The reason Apple is releasing a cheaper iphone is exactly what you mentioned; to give the customers choice. So far, we've only had to deal with price range extremes, the iphone 5 at the high end of the price range, and the 4/4s in the bottom. For people who buy phones outright but do not quite have the funds to shell out for an iphone 5, they're forced to settle with an old and somewhat irrelevant model, the 4s.

Although I have to agree with you in that I would like to see a larger screen iphone as well. Like that one really good mockup of the iphone 6 that was posted here, same dimensions, but no bezel at all, maximizing all the space. I am absolutely sure that the iphone 6 will have a larger screen, since the iphone just cant remain at that screen size for too long.

andrew8404 said:
I don't get the whole cheap phone from apple. They already sell the older gens for cheap. What's the difference? And yes Apple needs to make a bigger screen. I switched to Android years ago and haven't looked back. And those that say a 4.7 or 5 is too big obviously have girl hands or haven't used one for an extended period of time.
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Because they need a model that is both cheap AND relevant. Like I just mentioned earlier in this post, they need to place more products across the price range, since more products = more choice = more market share. The 5s at the top, 5c in the middle, and all older models at the bottom.
 
Anyone wonder why the 5C is the "cheap iPhone," but an iPhone with a larger screen would be an iPhone with the larger screen? Anyone wonder why so many people call the mini the "cheap iPad" but not the small iPad, when a phablet iPhone would be the one with the bigger screen? To be consistent shouldn't people call a larger screened iPhone the expensive iPhone (assuming a larger screen would cost more)? :confused:
 
CTHarrryH said:
Many of us don't want a larger phone - it's a phone not a tablet.
Why cheaper because many can't afford - especially in other parts of the world the current iPhone prices. You serve the market you want to serve. Apple already has a cheaper phone - they still sell the iPhone 4 and just continuing that tradition.

If they made the iPhone the size of the current Android - I'd find another phone to buy.
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That's understandable but at least offer options. The reason Samsung is making so much money is they make many different models that offer something for almost everyone. Apple could certainly do the same. They just arrogantly refuse to do so. Eventually it will negatively impact sales.

And as so many posters have mentioned, we do have choices and many have started to seriously look elsewhere for some of their mobile devices. Choice is a good thing and while it can be nice to live in the warm embrace of apple's closed ecosystem, at some point folks want to see what's outside the walled garden.

I dare say it's nice out here.

Cheers,
 
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panzer06 said:
That's understandable but at least offer options. The reason Samsung is making so much money is they make many different models that offer something for almost everyone. Apple could certainly do the same. They just arrogantly refuse to do so. Eventually it will negatively impact sales.

And as so many posters have mentioned, we do have choices and many have started to seriously look elsewhere for some of their mobile devices. Choice is a good thing and while it can be nice to live in the warm embrace of apple's closed ecosystem, at some point folks want to see what's outside the walled garden.

I dare say it nice out here.

Cheers,
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Well said. So many here see it as a black or white issue (nothing in between), so either love the iPhone as it is because it's perfect, or go away.

Everything comes in different sizes and flavors, but those of us that want a larger iPhone are somehow idiots that should just go buy the lastest crap hardware (Surface, PC, etc..) and be happy?

I dare say many people here should try a different flavor Kool-Aid...the Apple flavor isn't the only one.
 
We don't know the price of the iphone 5C, and why not there are people who want to use iphone/ios but not spending a lot of money for it. If you need larger screen you can get ipad mini, for me the max screen size could be 4.7 inches like the HTC one.
 
R.Stoychev said:
We don't know the price of the iphone 5C, and why not there are people who want to use iphone/ios but not spending a lot of money for it. If you need larger screen you can get ipad mini, for me the max screen size could be 4.7 inches like the HTC one.
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So you support people wanting a cheaper iPhone, but not people wanting an iPhone with a larger screen?

Your logic makes NO SENSE. If I want a larger screen, I should get an iPad mini? News flash!!...the iPad mini doesn't have a phone in it.
 
dmylrea said:
So you support people wanting a cheaper iPhone, but not people wanting an iPhone with a larger screen?

Your logic makes NO SENSE. If I want a larger screen, I should get an iPad mini? News flash!!...the iPad mini doesn't have a phone in it.
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Yeah, some people don't have the luxury of being able to spend $600 on a phone.
 
R.Stoychev said:
Yeah, some people don't have the luxury of being able to spend $600 on a phone.
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The majority of people don't spend $600 on an iPhone. They get it under contract for $199 (or less) just like every other phone.

And since when did owning an iPhone become a Right and not a Privilege? :rolleyes: I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a new Bentley either, but I don't expect them to produce a Bentley for the masses.

The point isn't that Apple shouldn't come out with a cheaper iPhone...it's the argument by some that those that want a larger screen iPhone should pound sand and go buy something inferior.
 
dmylrea said:
The majority of people don't spend $600 on an iPhone. They get it under contract for $199 (or less) just like every other phone.

And since when did owning an iPhone become a Right and not a Privilege? :rolleyes: I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a new Bentley either, but I don't expect them to produce a Bentley for the masses.

The point isn't that Apple shouldn't come out with a cheaper iPhone...it's the argument by some that those that want a larger screen iPhone should pound sand and go buy something inferior.
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Apple will keep the larger screen for the iphone 6 :D
 
The competition gives us choice.
Apple seems to want to get rid of it of its customers.
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Simply because the bulk of Android sales are not the larger GSIV or HTC ONE. The bulk of sales are the cheaper small screen models. Apple is just trying to compete with that large market segment, specially in countries like China and India.

That's if the rumored 5c is true. And currently we don't know for sure.
 
why no iphone with larger screen

Apple doesn't have the know-how to accomplish this. Perhaps if they steal from every major smartphone company that has seen the light and created phones with 4.7-5+ screens then they might be able to produce one. Innovation has left Apple. Boredom has set in.:(
 
dvoros said:
Apple doesn't have the know-how to accomplish this. Perhaps if they steal from every major smartphone company that has seen the light and created phones with 4.7-5+ screens then they might be able to produce one. Innovation has left Apple. Boredom has set in.:(
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Apple has never been on the bleeding edge of technology. They are a concept and design company. It's usually at least a year before Apple adopts what, in the PC world, is commonplace next-gen hardware features, but then they do it artistically and in a container that is (r)evolutionary.

I think they have the know-how, but just choose not to use it. What can they actually do with a smartphone that hasn't already been done? They're already ultra thin. The screens already have eye-popping resolutions and quality. They're already chock full of features and super-megapixel cameras. There isn't much left, except (with regards to Android competition) battery life. If they could somehow come out with a beautiful 5" phone with all the hardware everyone wants, and (somehow) make it last a couple days with normal usage on iOS then they would have something!

But for now, they choose to rehash existing technology, make it cheap, and call it a year. I guess we'll see next month.
 
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