Why is apple sooo greedy?

[latestmonkey]

Sure it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly

did you bother scrolling down at all?

"A monopoly is not merely the state of having control over a product; it also means that there is no real alternative to the monopolized product."

As much as I love my mac and ipod, to say there is no real alternative is a bit much.

 

[heatmiser]

As much as I love my mac and ipod, to say there is no real alternative is a bit much.

All right. Could you point out legal means to running OS X without Apple hardware?

 

[Apogee]

Look this thread is not about osx being better than XP. It is a given, but the whole greedy ways of apple. If I can buy a thinkpad for $1200 FULL loaded then why do I have to pay $2500 for the same computer with half the specs??? Apple is ripping everyone off plain and simple and they know they can do it because they have os x. Let apple license os x and watch their hardware business go out the freakin window OVERNIGHT.

Oh I also have a 15" thinkpad t61 and I paid the SAME amount. Just doesn't have a webcam or verizon.

Why are your prices so cheap? Something just doesn't add up, you cannot possibly get a 2.5ghz penryn laptop for $1100.

http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryId=4611686018425096207&seriesid=2056940

Even the webstore disagrees with you. People can buy millions of that laptop at that price, scrap it for parts, and make a profit.

 

[burningrave101]

Why are your prices so cheap? Something just doesn't add up, you cannot possibly get a 2.5ghz penryn laptop for $1100.

http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryId=4611686018425096207&seriesid=2056940

Even the webstore disagrees with you. People can buy millions of that laptop at that price, scrap it for parts, and make a profit.

Through the CPP discount site and using a coupon or through the main Lenovo site with a coupon and FatCash you can get one with that config for around $1100. You just have to wait for the sales.

 

[latestmonkey]

All right. Could you point out legal means to running OS X without Apple hardware?

So proprietary software is a monopoly? Holy crap. Someone call the Justice Department. Nintendo must be investigated!!! Come on man, don't be silly.

 

[macenforcer]

Why are your prices so cheap? Something just doesn't add up, you cannot possibly get a 2.5ghz penryn laptop for $1100.

http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryId=4611686018425096207&seriesid=2056940

Even the webstore disagrees with you. People can buy millions of that laptop at that price, scrap it for parts, and make a profit.

Check out slickdeals. Lenovo contantly offers 25% off with an additional 10% off. I got in on a deal that had 25% off and an additional 15% off. Apple never ever does that. Another reason why pcs are a better deal.

 

[heatmiser]

Why are your prices so cheap? Something just doesn't add up, you cannot possibly get a 2.5ghz penryn laptop for $1100.

http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryId=4611686018425096207&seriesid=2056940

Even the webstore disagrees with you. People can buy millions of that laptop at that price, scrap it for parts, and make a profit.

Here's how to do it:

1. Go to dealigg.com

2. Copy the weekly Lenovo e-coupon.

3. Go to Lenovo.

4. Configure laptop.

5. Enter e-coupon, save hundreds.

Lenovo has near-constant coupons available. I've monitored prices for the last few months, and there's hardly a day when you can't knock a few hundred off a Thinkpad if you use the coupons.

So proprietary software is a monopoly? Holy crap. Someone call the Justice Department. Nintendo must be investigated!!! Come on man, don't be silly.

Again, you're getting worked up over this because you keep interpreting monopoly as a bad word. It's simply a factual description of Apple's market control over OS X. Your exaggerations show how you associate the word, which keeps you from looking at the situation without prejudice when Apple is involved.

 

[latestmonkey]

Again, you're getting worked up over this because you keep interpreting monopoly as a bad word. It isn't. It's simply a factual description of Apple's market control over OS X.

No, I'm getting worked up because you have no idea what a monopoly really is.

 

[heatmiser]

No, I'm getting worked up because you have no idea what a monopoly really is.

Nope--you're interpreting "monopoly" as "illegal" which leads you to defend Apple in lockstep fanboy fashion.

 

[Apogee]

You can pick between WXGA and WXGA+ for the 14" and 15" models; that's one of the biggest advantages the Thinkpad has over the Macbook/Pro right off the bat. In fact, should I hop back to Windows, this is one of the primary reasons I'll get a Thinkpad. You can customize the heck out of their computers online.

But the Thinkpads do not offer the high quality LED screens that Apple is using. Apple uses innovative cutting edge technologies.

 

[latestmonkey]

Nope--you're interpreting "monopoly" as "illegal" which leads you to defend Apple in lockstep fanboy fashion.

Hahaha. Whether or not a certain type of monopoly is illegal (and there are both), yourr definition of a monopoly is just flat out wrong. No matter how you cut it, whether you're for apple or against apple or indifferent, apple is by no means a monopoly. Get a clue.

 

[jamie329]

Thats a great model for apple. But is it beneficial to the average joe like yourself? I could give a rats ass about apple's profit margins, as I don't own any apple stock. I care about competitive pricing. Like many posters have pointed out, apple's prices used to be competitive a few years back when component costs were high.

But since apple has developed such a blind following over the years, why lower prices? BRILLIANT!


Economics 101? Ok let me ask you this:

Can you be going into an apple store, and whip out your credit card and buy...lets say a $6000 laptop and rationalize to yourself "oh according to the law of economics, the demand of this product methodically follows its extremely high cost. so in accordance to the law of supply and demand, I am going to shamelessly ignore personal judgement on my behalf and shell out money from my son's college tuition account...he's a bum anyways"





the world's gone crazy man.

That funny, cause I can walk into Apple and buy a Macbook for $1049 (CAD). Or I could buy a Blackbook for $1459, or I could buy an entry level MBP for $1899, or I could buy a midlevel MBP for $2499, or I could buy an 24" iMac for $1799. You're right, no choice there!

You obviously haven't been following Apple for very long, because they have lowered prices. Just because they don't offer a $600 piece of junk laptop loaded with bloatware and covered with every possible sticker you could imagine, doesn't mean they aren't competitive.

You seriously need to get an education my friend.

 

[heatmiser]

Hahaha. Whether or not a certain type of monopoly is illegal (and there are both), yourr definition of a monopoly is just flat out wrong.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I can legally run OS X on non-Apple platforms.

 

[latestmonkey]

That funny, cause I can walk into Apple and buy a Macbook for $1049 (CAD). Or I could buy a Blackbook for $1459, or I could buy an entry level MBP for $1899, or I could buy a midlevel MBP for $2499, or I could buy an 24" iMac for $1799. You're right, no choice there!

You obviously haven't seen following Apple for very long, because they have lowered prices. Just because they don't offer a $600 piece of junk laptop loaded with bloatware and covered with every possible sticker you could imagine, doesn't mean they aren't competitive.

You seriously need to get an education my friend.

You better not tell him that PC manufacturers get a kickback from software developers to include a "trial version" to make money. That might blow his mind.

 

[latestmonkey]

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I can legally run OS X on non-Apple platforms.

And I'm waiting for you to read an Econ 101 book.

How you can run OSX on a non apple machine has NOTHING TO DO with a monopoly.

 

[heatmiser]

How you can run OSX on a non apple machine has NOTHING TO DO with a monopoly.

So basically, the only way to run Apple's operating system is to run it on Apple hardware only available through Apple?

 

[latestmonkey]

So basically, the only way to run Apple's operating system is to run it on Apple hardware only available through Apple?

Yes. Absolutely. And you're defining that as a monopoly. And maybe in Parker Brothers world, that's a monopoly. But when adults get together to discuss economics or business, this is not a monopoly. Run along.

 

[heatmiser]

Yes. Absolutely.

Point, set, match.

 

[latestmonkey]

Point, set, match.

Hahahah! I love the selecting quoting. If you think your argument was correct... wow. God bless. Going through life ignorant must be awesome.

Pssst... everyone else is just laughing at you.

 

[heatmiser]

But the Thinkpads do not offer the high quality LED screens that Apple is using. Apple uses innovative cutting edge technologies.

You're right there. As much as I like the customizability of Thinkpad screens, they don't seem to use the best ones when it comes to things like brightness, contrast, and angle viewing. I'm not in a hurry for LEDs, but if those improve the screen quality, I'd like to see them in Thinkpads.

 

[GimmeSlack12]

Nope--you're interpreting "monopoly" as "illegal" which leads you to defend Apple in lockstep fanboy fashion.

Apple is not a monopoly because consumers have a choice. With MS and the IE debacle people had no choice, you had to have IE installed for Windows to work. Its quite simple really.

 

[Apogee]

You're right there. As much as I like the customizability of Thinkpad screens, they don't seem to use the best ones when it comes to things like brightness, contrast, and angle viewing. I'm not in a hurry for LEDs, but if those improve the screen quality, I'd like to see them in Thinkpads.

The Thinkpad does look quite cheap... Hmm, and I like Thinkpads, but the things that the MBP offers, like 512MB graphics, backlit keyboards, ExpressCard slot, FW 800, Multitouch trackpad: all these costs money too. Then there is the fantastic software, and the "it just works" factor.

I'd say the Macbook Pro's keyboard is about as good as the Thinkpad's, though if they switch to that ridiculous "chicklet" keyboard that might be the end of that.

 

[shawmanus]

there are couple of silly things spoken always abt windows laptop. One its infested with virus and spyware/adware that it always crashes. I have bought 4 different windows laptops in last 8 yrs and I have not faced any issue. I just ensure I have firewall/virus/spyware software installed and every one of them is a freeware.

Other thing is that windows laptop is made up of cheap components(hyundai like) while macbook has lexus like components. That is another ********. Most of the components in the market are commoditized. We have intel proc/chipset/seagate/hitachi/corsair etc. Check review

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?article=T61andR61&newsID=3685

Most important is Thinkpad operates significantly cooler than macbook pro. I have seen all the generations of macbook/pro and every one of them gets too hot.

But mac looks cool plus osx is awesome. But apple need to either spec up macbook(more customizable options) or reduce price on macbook pro.

 

[macenforcer]

Hahahah! I love the selecting quoting. If you think your argument was correct... wow. God bless. Going through life ignorant must be awesome.

Pssst... everyone else is just laughing at you.

Nope, we are laughing at you.

 

[latestmonkey]

Nope, we are laughing at you.

I'm sure you are. But that's ok. The majority of people here understand you guys have no leg to stand on.

Oh well, I really am done in this thread. There's no point in wasting more of my time than I already have dealing with people who refuse to understand how business works. Good luck with your campaign against Apple. Good luck with your Thinkpad too. Hope it brings you many years of happiness.