Most cameras use sd cards, so I agree it was idiotic to remove the slot. I'd much rather have a slot than connect a camera directly, or use wireless for transfer. Wireless doesn't always work well.
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Most cameras use sd cards, so I agree it was idiotic to remove the slot. I'd much rather have a slot than connect a camera directly, or use wireless for transfer. Wireless doesn't always work well.
It makes you wonder how pro Canon users with CF and CFast get around this problem.
I was interest and puzzled when Schiller was being interviewed defending dropping the ports. That he basically said Apple couldn't go a very good job implementing a SDcard reader and the third party ones that connected through a usb port were much better.
"One, it’s a bit of a cumbersome slot. You've got this thing sticking halfway out." Translation: ruins the esthetics.
"Then there are very fine and fast USB card readers, and then you can use CompactFlash as well as SD" Translation: We can make the macbook pro .5 cubic centimeters smaller in volume and save $0.21 on the cost of the port. Also by buying more usb-c ports our volume discount is greater.
"And then more and more cameras are starting to build wireless transfer into the camera. That’s proving very useful." Translation: The only important cameras are on iPhones and it drive people to spend money subscribing to iCloud storage which adds to our bottom line.
"One, it’s a bit of a cumbersome slot. You've got this thing sticking halfway out." Translation: ruins the esthetics.
"Then there are very fine and fast USB card readers, and then you can use CompactFlash as well as SD" Translation: We can make the macbook pro .5 cubic centimeters smaller in volume and save $0.21 on the cost of the port. Also by buying more usb-c ports our volume discount is greater.
"And then more and more cameras are starting to build wireless transfer into the camera. That’s proving very useful." Translation: The only important cameras are on iPhones and it drive people to spend money subscribing to iCloud storage which adds to our bottom line.
Precisely how I feel about USB-C. Don't have a single USB-C device - why would I want USB-C ports?
Difference of course being that the SD-card slot is only good for one thing while USB-C can do basically everything every other port could ever do ... But sure, people who like to live in the past can always buy last year's model with all of the antiquated ports
Need to pull out my original S100 and Xt350 so I can be a "Pro photographer" too.
But sure, people who like to live in the past can always buy last year's model with all of the antiquated ports
I'm staying in 2013 mode for now - I can see why the CD is antiquated but SD cards have not been replaced by something else and are still in wide usage. Even the iPhone 7 comes with antiquated ports instead of USB-C!
1) Yes, my 2012 rMBP has two FW800 ports. I'm looking at them right now.
2) I'm not sure how you can say the 2012 rMBP doesn't have a diverse selection of ports when I listed all of them in a previous post. (Diverse means different by the way).
3) I don't know what you mean when you say "several ports that could be used for only one type of device." USB is prevalent on many devices for many purposes, as is HDMI and FireWire.
And the annoyance at the lack of diverse ports isn't just me. Here is well respected Marco Arment on his blog at Marco.org:
Having four USB-C ports is awesome.
Having only four USB-C ports is going to hurt the versatility requirement of pro gear, because there’s a very real chance that you won’t have the right dongle when you need it.
Then you have MacWord -- MacWorld! -- basically admitting the MBP really isn't a Pro machine and is Apple's first step moving away from true pro hardware:
Macworld:
...the new MacBook Pro isn’t your standard professional notebook. Rather, the latest flagship portables from Cupertino are more in line with the iPad Pro than the MacBook Pros they replace, and it could signal major changes ahead for the rest of the lineup.... That’s why it seems like there’s a little less pro in this year’s MacBook. With the Air on life support, the MacBook Pro needs to pull double-duty, appealing to both its namesake professionals and millions of people who want a new Mac at home....
Then there is this nugget from Andy Ihnatko via his Twitter account on the keyboard:
Nobody has ever said "I'd gladly trade real-keyboard sensation and my SD slot for a luxurious extra 3mm of space in my laptop bag"
I could go on -- like Alex Lindsay, a usually huge Mac fan -- his company buys them like .10 candy -- had some choice words on this weeks MacBreak, but I'm not going to waste more time here because you've proven to be a true Kool Aid drinker happy to devour whatever Apple pushes out rather than to demand the type of "insanely great" hardware Apple use to make. Enjoy your new MBP, clearly it works for you. Personally, I can't spend $2400 on something so incomplete that I'd have to spend another $200+ on other dongles to make it usable -- and then have to schelp them around. Not to mention all the other things missing is a so-called premium "pro" laptop.
Last I checked, Canon was one of the most popular cameras for Pros. The 5D Mark III and Mark IV have both a CF and SD slot, but the CF cards are faster (especially on the Mark III) so that is typically the default choice. Apple apparently never cared about these pros, so they have always needed a card reader. Personally, I have a Mark III and used the SD slot with an Eyefi card so I can transfer jpegs to my iPad wirelessly. The card reader comes out when I wanted to dump the RAW files from the CF to any of my computers. It isn't a big deal to be honest.
Good for you
Of course people will have different needs. I'm just stating my opinion and that is that it was very nice of Apple to remove all other useless (to me) ports and just keep the essentials 1. most "professional" photographers not only have SD cards as a backup, but primarily use CF or XQD. a fast card reader should always be a part of your setup.
2. speaking of card reader, the the onboard sd card slot is slow and is inferior to dedicated memory card readers that are in the market today for a low price (less than $50).
Let's be real. Apple is not stupid. Their do their research when it comes to the Pro community, even having them test out their products for their market videos or keynotes. It's obvious having one dedicated slot for one specific format was not worth it, when it can be replaced by a port that is universal in its capabilities.
Schiller just seems to be digging a big hole for himself and there seems to be some odd decision making going on.
I don't know what parallel universe you're from, but no Retina MBP, including the one from 2012, has FW800 ports.
https://support.apple.com/kb/sp653?locale=en_US
Are you reffering to a non-retina MacBook Pro from 2012? Why write the 'r' in rMBP then? Or did you confuse Thunderbolt 2 with FW800?
If you'd listen to ATP podcast, you'd find out that well respected Marco Arment likes the new MBPs. He's certainly not saying they are not pro or that anyone who gets one is drinking Kool Aid. He just dislikes the situation with ports - which is fine. I disagree, but I respect his views.
And since you're into what other people say, I'll do that too - here's John Gruber's reply:
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/02/design-for-the-future
He explains it quite nicely. Either way, I think Apple did a great thing with the ports. A lot of people disagree, but generally think this new MacBook Pro is great.
Only if you read that article the way you want to. Jason Snell is generally very pleased with the new MBPs. He's gripe is with the lack of desktop updates - and he's right. Wait for his review of the Touch Bar MacBook Pros. I can guarantee you'll see a very positive review.
It's not about 3mm, it's about weight, so I think he's wrong. Either way, you missed his tweet where he says:
"I like everything about the new MacBook Pro except how much better it could've been if it weren't stupid-thin. Very many things to love."
Yeah, sounds like a guy who really hates the new MBPs. Perhaps he's drinking that Kool Aid you're so fond of?
A huge Mac fan who thinks touch screens on a Mac would be a good idea. Nuff said.
Since you didn't really have anything, you resorted to name-calling.
I think new MacBooks are insanely great.
Thank you, I'm certain I will. Enjoy whatever it is you're getting and enjoy quoting other people's opinions on it.
So I guess the cat's finally out of the bag. It's too expensive for you, so you're angry. Fair enough, but that doesn't mean the product is bad.
It depends what you call 'pro'. I do all my photography for the design projects I earn money off, and only use an SD card. The reader in the old machines was more than fine for my use, and I had no complaints. Yes, a little slow but no big deal.
Its dongles for me for a while until I get a camera with solid wireless.
That uses wifi between you iPhone and other devices, think 'fancy speakerphone'. You need a compatible device but it has hee-haw to do with the carrier.
Dropping the card reader and moving everything to USB C was not some random, reluctant decision - it was a calculated decision. Think about it - dropping the card reader reduces their costs. Switching to USB C not only is future proof, but guarantees a ton of add on cable sales.
No, you're wrong. Don't you read MacRumors forums? Apple people are, basically, evil morons. Screw the facts and truth - use emotion instead: the thing is - Apple is just bad now. So, please, don't use logic and common sense like you did in your post - because that makes you a Kool Aid drinking fanboy. Instead, just repeat the same few lines about how Apple lost it and how they should've made the same laptop they made in 2009. but with Kaby Lake. That isn't, um, out yet. That's the way to go! Thank you.
Well, I am a photographer too (www.dylikowski.com) and I indeed use the CF, but not wireless. But, I constantly need USB 3.0 and I absolutely hate dongles and adapters.
No real photographer uses wireless transfer. It's laughable. Apple just doesn't care about their core users anymore, instead they are making devices that "wow" the common person. Apple has become a company that sells marketing not functions and features. Sad.
I use CF cards and use a highspeed reader. To connect it to a USB-C port all I need is a USB-A to USB-C cable. Which is cheap compared to the $3500 for the camera body.
BTW, love the stuff on your site. Are you in Oregon or Washington? Some of the landscapes look like that area.
Because putting the blame on the camera companies that produces ****** wireless transfers in their products 2016 would be .. unfair, eh? Let's blame Apple for removing legacy ports!
Alex Lindsay is a true professional in a fast moving traveling roadshow worldwide, most here, likely you too are really prosumers with cool business cards, there is quite a difference. Professionals always have the right equipment and adaptors, cause they are professionals. It's like saying a pro photographer doesn't have the right lens with him because of poor planning. Well respected blogger? who cares really.
Panasonic GX-7 User here.
Big advertising that the camera can be accessed with apps / wireless when it came out. it's just slow and unreliable. Physical connection ( SD-card ) it the way to go - it might be different in the future - but not now.
Big advertising that the camera can be accessed with apps / wireless when it came out. it's just slow and unreliable. Physical connection ( SD-card ) it the way to go - it might be different in the future - but not now.
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I assume you've seen my later post by now. Also see here:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203032
"If your carrier supports Wi-Fi Calling on iCloud-connected devices, you can also make and receive Wi-Fi calls on other devices. You can use Wi-Fi Calling on these devices, even if your iPhone isn't on the same Wi-Fi Network or turned on"