Why would anyone buy a iPhone 7 (aka 6SII) when we know about iPhone 8?

[LovingTeddy]

Old but very relevant. You can't wipe the past clean because you choose to ignore the reality of it.
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I don't know how "most of use" any mobile device, but the sales of 6s seem to indicate people wanted to buy one for whatever the reasons.

As far as the camera, if you value camera you won't use a cell phone camera, no matter what the make. You'll buy a top of the Canon, Hassellblad or Nikon. Right? With the requisite 20 to 30 thousand in top of the line lenses. Right? With another $30K in specialized lighting equipment.

Now granted the right tool for the right job, but most of us have our cell phones in our pockets, where we can use it to take videos or photos and they are pretty darn good. Those who have some background in photography can basically tell the difference as long as the photos aren't jury rigged in some manner.

We had group tour a month ago. We tried to use iPhone for group photo (40+ people), there is no way for iPhone to do without squeeze everyone. The group just won't fit into the frame.

Even if iPhone can take large group photo, quality will be very bad.

The we take out Cannon camera with wide len attached to the camera, taking large group photo is easy. You can easily see everyone's photo when 100% crop, where there are lots of noises from photo taken by iPhone.

One thing is for sure. If you want take good photo, iPhone is enough. If you want take decent photo, iPhone is not ahold tool.

 

[I7guy]

We had group tour a month ago. We tried to use iPhone for group photo (40+ people), there is no way for iPhone to do without squeeze everyone. The group just won't fit into the frame.

Even if iPhone can take large group photo, quality will be very bad.

The we take out Cannon camera with wide len attached to the camera, taking large group photo is easy. You can easily see everyone's photo when 100% crop, where there are lots of noises from photo taken by iPhone.

One thing is for sure. If you want take good photo, iPhone is enough. If you want take decent photo, iPhone is not ahold tool.

I would post photos where I took a beautiful group photo of 50 people with good quality, but I would have ask them first. So I'm not sure why you had problems. Sure taking a group photo with a wide angle lens and a decent dslr with a good flash makes the job easy, and I'm with you on that.

But the iPhone takes more than good enough photos for people.

 

[ralpha1961]

Apple may have a dual cameras because they are gearing up for compressive light field display. In other words 3D without glasses. Apple has been toying with 3D with the home screen. Moving it around allowed a simulation of 3D. Now with this new technology, not only can you move pictures up, down, left and right but there will be a field of depth. Allowing focus near and far. Requirements for this would be cameras for different focal lengths. I believe the two cameras will take a near and far view focus and a possible third shot. Both cameras at once. Now to get depth there needs to be a software algorithm To make this happen, it will have to viewed with a special screen. A multilayered screen. OLED makes this possible. This a variant of light field display called Tensor.
Personally I do not think Apple will have a fully functioning 3D if they use LCD. This may come next year. One has to ask, what is the purpose for a gimmick like this? Uses may include reading text and seeing images without reading glasses.
Theaters can benefit from this with large screens where half the audience on one side will see the villain before the other half. Creating an atmosphere of anxiety while the other side is wondering what is happening because they can not see the villain yet.
Will this be the "OMG!" factor to stimulate iPhone sales and dump the older phones?

Tensor Display

Compressive light field display

 

[erayser]

But have you dropped your phone in years?

Not from my hands to the ground. Bad case of OCD. Any imperfections on my phone would bother me. For as how delicate our phones are these days, I'm constantly aware when it's in my hands. Never broke a screen and all my iPhones were all in great condition till the day I stop using them. Like I said... death grip in my hands. . or in my pocket. If I can't put it in my pocket to do a task... I place on a stable surface first.

 

[Radon87000]

Old but very relevant. You can't wipe the past clean because you choose to ignore the reality of it.
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I don't know how "most of use" any mobile device, but the sales of 6s seem to indicate people wanted to buy one for whatever the reasons.

As far as the camera, if you value camera you won't use a cell phone camera, no matter what the make. You'll buy a top of the Canon, Hassellblad or Nikon. Right? With the requisite 20 to 30 thousand in top of the line lenses. Right? With another $30K in specialized lighting equipment.

Now granted the right tool for the right job, but most of us have our cell phones in our pockets, where we can use it to take videos or photos and they are pretty darn good. Those who have some background in photography can basically tell the difference as long as the photos aren't jury rigged in some manner.

 

[DNichter]

The 6+ had the best loudspeaker audio of any iPhone to date and yet the 6S+ although better in every other regard, has much inferior loudspeaker audio. So 'upgrading' is sometimes a downgrade...or in the case of the jump from i5 to 6+, a massive downgrade (screen size aside).

I don't see any of these as a massive downgrade, but to each their own. I am assuming you returned the phone right away.

 

[I7guy]

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We can do this until the thread gets locked.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Let's drop (excuse the pun) the bickering about drop tests lol. This thread isn't even about the S7. To be honest we don't really know anything concrete about next years iPhone so the decision making for this year is difficult to really compare.

 

[Radon87000]

We can do this until the thread gets locked.

Point was the 6S is rendered in a non working condition as the home button completely smashed.The back of the Samsung was smashed but the phone survived
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I have seen improvement year after year on each iPhone. Major improvement? No, but very steady incremental improvements to each model. The software, in my eyes, is only going to keep getting better. People who prefer the Apple ecosystem will remain and continue to upgrade. I think people are taking the fact that the case changes are minor as they aren't making any improvements to the iPhone 7. I said in my other post, but improved audio, screen technology, camera technology, and software improvements are a big deal to a lot of people. More so than just a redesigned case, when everything you do with your phone is primarily interacting with the same size screen.

The speaker holes have been confirmed empty.Improved audio isnt much as I dont use my phone for listening to music all day
Camera technology is exclusive to the larger Pro variant.The 7 4.7 is getting the usual camera

Software improvements are already incorporated into the 6S

Also your point about the home button is false as the interior of the phone leaked and it was a normal home button not the 3D Touch home button

 

[I7guy]

Point was the 6S is rendered in a non working condition as the home button completely smashed.The back of the Samsung was smashed but the phone survived
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The speaker holes have been confirmed empty.Improved audio isnt much as I dont use my phone for listening to music all day
Camera technology is exclusive to the larger Pro variant.The 7 4.7 is getting the usual camera

Software improvements are already incorporated into the 6S

Also your point about the home button is false as the interior of the phone leaked and it was a normal home button not the 3D Touch home button

The point was the s7 was rendered into a non-functional state was the iphone 6s ran merrily along. Ah the horror, who to believe.

 

[Radon87000]

The point was the s7 was rendered into a non-functional state was the iphone 6s ran merrily along. Ah the horror, who to believe.

A reputed UNBIASED website?Phonearena
Newer is better?Which one was newer

 

[jweinraub]

Well maybe because they have a iPhone 6 and never upgraded to the 6s.

I recently paid to have an out of warranty repair on my iPhone 6. Had the iPhone 7 rumours been any different I would have held out and got the 7. But since the 7 looks mediocre, I will stick with my 6 until the 8 arrives. I am content with my 6. Why wouldn't I?

 

[I7guy]

A reputed UNBIASED website?Phonearena
Newer is better?Which one was newer

Is that Samsung phone still being sold? Why even bring up bias as there is bias galore with subjectivity being confused with objectivity, etc.

 

[DNichter]

The speaker holes have been confirmed empty.Improved audio isnt much as I dont use my phone for listening to music all day
Camera technology is exclusive to the larger Pro variant.The 7 4.7 is getting the usual camera

Software improvements are already incorporated into the 6S

Also your point about the home button is false as the interior of the phone leaked and it was a normal home button not the 3D Touch home button[/QUOTE]

We really know nothing at this point. I may be wrong, but I don't think Apple will remove the 3.5mm jack and replace it with nothing. Or release a new phone without any new features. I guess we'll see. On the plus though, you don't have any reason to buy a new phone.

 

[Dave245]

The speaker holes have been confirmed empty.Improved audio isnt much as I dont use my phone for listening to music all day
Camera technology is exclusive to the larger Pro variant.The 7 4.7 is getting the usual camera

Software improvements are already incorporated into the 6S

Also your point about the home button is false as the interior of the phone leaked and it was a normal home button not the 3D Touch home button

Nothing has been CONFIRMED yet, also the 7 Plus is rumoured to be getting a dual camera and the 7 will also be getting a camera improvement from the leaks we have seen so far. Obviously this is all based on the rumours and leaks being accurate. Other rumoured features include 3D Home button, which was also mentioned by a couple of reliable people who leak stuff. Hopefully we will see soon. As for the removal of the headphone jack, Apple won't remove it unless there is a reason and or another feature in its place.

 

[The Game 161]

camera should be great on the 7 and 7 plus. Might be the main selling feature.

 

[comptr]

I recently paid to have an out of warranty repair on my iPhone 6. Had the iPhone 7 rumours been any different I would have held out and got the 7. But since the 7 looks mediocre, I will stick with my 6 until the 8 arrives. I am content with my 6. Why wouldn't I?

I guess but most people upgrade every 2 years. Also as long as your carrier is still offering device subsidiary based on your plan or your with Verizon or Sprint then you can get a discount on the seven and if they sell their 6 or 6 +.

 

[Radon87000]

Is that Samsung phone still being sold? Why even bring up bias as there is bias galore with subjectivity being confused with objectivity, etc.

Yes it is and it survived while the iPhone didn't

I bring it up because that YouTube video you posted is not a credible source as Phonearena.He could have softened the phone up using torture tests prior to the drop tests

 

[I7guy]

Yes it is and it survived while the iPhone didn't

I bring it up because that YouTube video you posted is not a credible source as Phonearena.He could have softened the phone up using torture tests prior to the drop tests

I also showed a video where a samsung product was smashed to smithereens and actually stopped working compared to the iphone 6s, which was still working. So it's clear glass backs stink if you are going to use the phone naked and are a klutz. Of course youtube videos is not a credible source, especially when they invalidate your whole internet talking point.

 

[Radon87000]

I also showed a video where a samsung product was smashed to smithereens and actually stopped working compared to the iphone 6s, which was still working.

I also a showed a video where the iPhone died while the Samsung survived

So it's clear glass backs stink if you are going to use the phone naked and are a klutz.

Too bad Apple agrees with Samsung and me on this.iPhone 2018 Glass Back incoming

Of course youtube videos is not a credible source, especially when they invalidate your whole internet talking point.

I meant the one who made the video.PhoneArena Youtube Channel>Some random Youtuber

 

[akash.nu]

I also a showed a video where the iPhone died while the Samsung survived


Too bad Apple agrees with Samsung and me on this.iPhone 2018 Glass Back incoming



I meant the one who made the video.PhoneArena Youtube Channel>Some random Youtuber

PhoneArena is crap. Just putting it out there.

 

[I7guy]

I also a showed a video where the iPhone died while the Samsung survived


Too bad Apple agrees with Samsung and me on this.iPhone 2018 Glass Back incoming



I meant the one who made the video.PhoneArena Youtube Channel>Some random Youtuber

You don't know what's even in the phone being released in two weeks much less the phone being released next year. Too bad Samsung phones are so delicate.

 

[Radon87000]

PhoneArena is crap. Just putting it out there.

How so?I find their reviews one of the best

You don't know what's even in the phone being released in two weeks much less the phone being released next year.

You can keep grasping at technicalities as much as you want.The major changes in the iPhone 7 are

1)No headphone jack
2)No Antenna bands

Then the usual specs bump and a Jony Ive video with his snobbish voice declaring the usual yada yada about the materials used which 90% of people put in a $30 case

Too bad Samsung phones are so delicate.

iPhones are about to join em in 2018 with OLED and a glass back?You ready for another round of this?Considering Apple copied their old iPod design for iPhone 6 it makes sense they would revert to their iPhone 4 design too

I sure am.Bring it on

 

[erayser]

iPhones are about to join em in 2018 with OLED and a glass back?You ready for another round of this?

I sure am.Bring it on

If going with glass front and back gives us fast wireless charging, I have no issues if Apple does this. Might suck for phone droppers... I've been lucky... haven't dropped my since stopped using bulky cases. Ever since I changed to minimalist cases, I'm more away of my phone when it's in my hands.

I'm looking forward to the 2018 iPhone. I'm currently only using my 6 plus (shelved my S7 Edge for a few days), and iOS is so smooth and some of my apps I use on my S7 are smoother. Kodi is working great on my 6+ right now... video streaming is so smooth. Watching a movie I watched on my S7 on the same server, and it didn't look this smooth. Doesn't mean I hate my S7 Edge. I appreciate both... but I miss the always on display, wireless charging, Gear VR, and amoled display. Water resistance and expandable storage isn't important to me. Hopefully we get some of these features in 2018. My 6+ feels huge and it's the same screen size... but I kind of like the black bezels while watching movies.

 

[I7guy]

How so?I find their reviews one of the best



You can keep grasping at technicalities as much as you want.The major visible changes in the iPhone 7 are

1)No headphone jack
2)No Antenna bands

Then the usual specs bump and a Jony Ive video with his snobbish voice declaring the usual yada yada about the materials used which 90% of people put in a $30 case



iPhones are about to join em in 2018 with OLED and a glass back?You ready for another round of this?Considering Apple copied their old iPod design for iPhone 6 it makes sense they would revert to their iPhone 4 design too

I sure am.Bring it on

Corrected It for you. I would rather listen to sir Jony Ive any day than some others.