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Wow. People are still talking about the X being larger than the Plus?

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Look at that nice 6.5mm gap in the width between the Plus (bottom) and X screen protector. (top)

What was it? 12.9 vs 12.3 when adding in the X's notch space and gesture area?
The way that screen protector is positioned is wrong. There is a lot of height available above the Safari address bar on the X but the photo is taken in a dark environment which means you can't see it.
 
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I know right! Great post! It's just a phone.

Me? I could give a rats... I survived the last year with the 6s Plus and not the flagship 7. Now I've got the 8 Plus... soon to be overtaken by the X as the flagship iPhone.

I really wanna be one of those guys to run out and buy the X and yell "I just got the iPhone X, my epeen is THIS BIG!" but that's just not how I roll...

You're the one repeating yourself more than anyone, forcing your view on others.

How many times do you need to pat yourself on the back for your purchase decision.

Pipe down...
 
i too think the X will feel larger than the Plus.. however, i'm not quite sure i'd say it's because of 'trickery'.. it's just smarter and/or more efficient&optimized space planning.

a few examples to illustrate:

say you're faced with choosing one of the following two bedrooms:

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..they're both the same size.. the one on the left is a rectangle and the one on the right is the same rectangle except 1' has been removed from the length and this area was reshaped/relocated to form a nook or closet.

which one do you pick?
which one is the better use of space?

with the rectangle, all of your objects will need to be contained within a single active space.. the other one is more functional as there's now a dedicated area for less active but still necessary elements (clothes/shoes/book shelf/etc)

with the iPhone X, something similar is happening as there are now nooks to contain things like time/signal strength/battery/etc.. they no longer need to share space with the otherwise active area.. in this regard, the X is more organized than the rectangular screen..

further, on a rectangular screen (plus), the whole top of the screen is dedicated as a 'closet' which houses the status info.. then there is another section above that (the top bezel) which contains the speaker and camera.. on the X, these two stagnant areas have been condensed into one row.. time/battery/signal status/camera/speaker/microphone/trueDepth sensors... all of that.. has been condensed into a thin strip along the top of the phone.. on the plus, it's taking about 6or7 of those strips to do the same (well, less) functions..

the top of the X (ie- the part with the notch), is superior* use of space over the plus in regards to space efficiency and organization.. again, not 'trickery'.. just smart planning

(* and yes, it's soo much better in these regards that i'll be so bold as to call it 'superior'.. it's a fact and not arguable)



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also, i feel like many people look at the X layout and think this is what happened:

they feel Apple started with a rectangle:
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....then they chopped off the corners:

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... then they cut a notch out of the display.. which leaves us with a hacked up version of what should of stayed as the original rectangle:

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..but what they really did is more like this:
started with a smaller rectangle then appended more screen.. something like:

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in regards to iPhone8+ comparison and/or an evolution of iPhone design (meaning, it's still roughly an iPhone-- thin slab of glass and metal with a rounded rectangular shape).. it would look something like:

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turning into this:

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and further, it's less of a 'dumb' rectangle and more of functional layout (in the context of the bedroom example)

Great explanations. This is a pleasure to read posts like this one.
 
I certainly don't.

So I bought the Challenger.

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I did the same thing when considering the 8 Plus and the X.

I'm sure the Camaro and Mustang owners will disagree... and that's fine. :cool:

Haha, I don't think you and I will ever agree. At least you have good taste in cars.

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You both are wrong! This is the way to go!
Untitled by Garry Metcalfe, on Flickr

Nice cars.

Shot on iPhone: Twin Turbo SHO(Sorry to derail thread, had to do it. )

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I don’t know if this video has been posted already


I just don’t think the X will be big enough for me. Coupled with the notch and lack of Touch ID I’m leaning towards the 8 plus. Will decided by the time the X pre-orders go live.

The video states that X has SAME display width as 6/7/8. If it's true, then X's side bezels should be even thicker - the X's body is wider than 6/7/8...
 
So is the notch.
maybe even more..

They could have prevented it just like Samsung’s approach.
there is a concept picture showing how it could look in page 1 or 2..
The notch will be seen as iconic which is part of apple’s plan..more companies will copy the notch. It’s the route Samsung are moving to next year

Give me notch over bezels any day
 
The notch will be seen as iconic which is part of apple’s plan..more companies will copy the notch. It’s the route Samsung are moving to next year

Give me notch over bezels any day
Apple went with the notch to house their FaceID tech. Kuo today said while other manufacturers will copy FaceID, Samsung will continue to work on under the screen fps
 
I did fine on a 3.5” phone. Then a 4” phone. Then a 5.6” phone. I’ve used my girlfriend’s S8 and didn’t have any issues whatsoever. I think I’ll be just fine.

I did fine with dialup internet too. Would be hard to go back to that now.
 
It will be like the iPhone 8. But it won’t do stuff that the Plus models can do, like Mail (list of mails + show current mail), Notes (list of notes + current note), Messages (list of conversations + current conversation), etc
Im a bit confused.
What else won’t work in landscape?
Even the rotation is gone?
Is there a list?
 
I know there's been loads of pictures, videos etc but does anyone have the actual physical, in mm, dimensions of the X please. Total inc notch and then one with a notch straight line? I want to compare with 7+ screen on top try get an idea.
 
I thought I was buying a phone, not getting a trig/geometry lesson:(

Bottom line is folks who are getting X like the screen, size be what it is. Those who aren't want to rationalize by arguing about screen size.

I don't care if yours is bigger than mine, mine will be more fun than yours.
 
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Wrong, the Plus has the bigger screen. Look at the active usable space. The X is the same as the 8..

Sure, the notch potentially makes "usable" space 5% less than a Plus model. The notch is obviously what people don't like or are unsure about with the X.

Me, I am not concerned if there's a small difference in screen space. Going from the huge Plus model to this smaller form is going to be a big enough change that I won't notice the difference much, if at all, in usable screen space. Of course, that's pending real-world use. I'm not concerned.

If Apple would have trimmed down the top and bottom bezels of the 8 Plus, I may have already bought one instead of waiting for an X. However, the OLED, 2436x1125 resolution, and 458 ppi specs sound like a nice, noticeable upgrade from the 8 Plus. Plus, the X cameras are slightly better in the back and significantly better on the front and will be needed for advanced AR stuff down the line. Screen size is only one aspect of the phone.

iPhone X Specs -> https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/specs/
iPhone 8 Plus Specs -> https://www.apple.com/iphone-8/specs/
 
I know right! Great post! It's just a phone.

I could care less what phone you get! You could care less what phone I get!

You think the bezels are horrendous, and I think the notch is horrendous. What's cool though is you don't have to look at my 8 Plus and I don't have to look at your X.

What I think is hilarious is how far people will go to have the current flagship phone. They'll bypass bills, sell jewelry, be late on the rent, pawn the car title... max out the CC... etc... just so they can have the iPhone X. It's a status symbol.

Me? I could give a rats... I survived the last year with the 6s Plus and not the flagship 7. Now I've got the 8 Plus... soon to be overtaken by the X as the flagship iPhone.

I really wanna be one of those guys to run out and buy the X and yell "I just got the iPhone X, my epeen is THIS BIG!" but that's just not how I roll...
So what are you gonna do once all iPhones have the Notch?
 
So what are you gonna do once all iPhones have the Notch?

Definitely won't be humping Apple's leg while chugging the kool-aid like you.
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You're the one repeating yourself more than anyone, forcing your view on others.

How many times do you need to pat yourself on the back for your purchase decision.

Pipe down...

Nobody here is patting himself on the back needing reassurance from internet strangers. Nice comeback though!
 
Definitely won't be humping Apple's leg while chugging the kool-aid like you.
Then good luck on Android because it's obvious that the Notch is coming to all iPhones once oled yields stabilise. Look I don't like the notch either but it's that or the huge bezels or in Apple's case Galaxy S8 bezels. Which is preferable?
 
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Even if we pretend the iPhone Plus and X have the same display area, the X loses a 1/4" of display height due to the gesture area. The status bar is also taller to accommodate the notch and ears.

Psychologically, the notch will compress the height of the display. The dedicated gesture area and taller status bar reduces the usability of the display.

Those top and bottom areas aren’t always there. They are on the Plus also.
 
Then good luck on Android because it's obvious that the Notch is coming to all iPhones once oled yields stabilise. Look I don't like the notch either but it's that or the huge bezels or in Apple's case Galaxy S8 bezels. Which is preferable?
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For me the phone on the right is MUCH more preferable.

So you get a small bezel... still looks a lot better than the notch and for me isn't nearly as annoying.

What was that? Apple wants to give the X uniqueness?

Uniqueness is like animojis... something nobody gives a $*#* about.
 
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i too think the X will feel larger than the Plus.. however, i'm not quite sure i'd say it's because of 'trickery'.. it's just smarter and/or more efficient&optimized space planning.

a few examples to illustrate:

say you're faced with choosing one of the following two bedrooms:

View attachment 724052


..they're both the same size.. the one on the left is a rectangle and the one on the right is the same rectangle except 1' has been removed from the length and this area was reshaped/relocated to form a nook or closet.

which one do you pick?
which one is the better use of space?

with the rectangle, all of your objects will need to be contained within a single active space.. the other one is more functional as there's now a dedicated area for less active but still necessary elements (clothes/shoes/book shelf/etc)

with the iPhone X, something similar is happening as there are now nooks to contain things like time/signal strength/battery/etc.. they no longer need to share space with the otherwise active area.. in this regard, the X is more organized than the rectangular screen..

further, on a rectangular screen (plus), the whole top of the screen is dedicated as a 'closet' which houses the status info.. then there is another section above that (the top bezel) which contains the speaker and camera.. on the X, these two stagnant areas have been condensed into one row.. time/battery/signal status/camera/speaker/microphone/trueDepth sensors... all of that.. has been condensed into a thin strip along the top of the phone.. on the plus, it's taking about 6or7 of those strips to do the same (well, less) functions..

the top of the X (ie- the part with the notch), is superior* use of space over the plus in regards to space efficiency and organization.. again, not 'trickery'.. just smart planning

(* and yes, it's soo much better in these regards that i'll be so bold as to call it 'superior'.. it's a fact and not arguable)



-----------------
also, i feel like many people look at the X layout and think this is what happened:

they feel Apple started with a rectangle:
View attachment 724053

....then they chopped off the corners:

View attachment 724054

... then they cut a notch out of the display.. which leaves us with a hacked up version of what should of stayed as the original rectangle:

View attachment 724055

-----------------------

..but what they really did is more like this:
started with a smaller rectangle then appended more screen.. something like:

View attachment 724049

in regards to iPhone8+ comparison and/or an evolution of iPhone design (meaning, it's still roughly an iPhone-- thin slab of glass and metal with a rounded rectangular shape).. it would look something like:

View attachment 724050

turning into this:

View attachment 724051

and further, it's less of a 'dumb' rectangle and more of functional layout (in the context of the bedroom example)

Great explanation! Thanks. I was trying to put into words why the X as a package works better, but couldn’t articulate it as well.
 
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For me the phone on the right is MUCH more preferable.

iphone-8-embrace-the-notch.jpg
how is the one on the right displaying the signal status? (wi-fi/bluetooth/etc)

that's surely a screen up there to display those, right?
to me, those two pictures are of the same phone with the same notch.. the one on the right just has black background with white type in the ears/notched area.. the one on the left is white background with black type in the ears.

idk, to me, it seems like you're saying you prefer the hypothetical design on the right.. and that the mocked up design would look like this:

ct-iphone-x-hands-on-20170913.jpg



.... except-- that's not a mocked up design.. it's the actual iPhone X.
i'm not really following your point or noticing what difference is being attempted with the comparison you posted.. if anything, it's the same exact phone except the software is slightly different on the two.


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