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i'm not really following your point or noticing what difference is being attempted with the comparison you posted..

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Ok... I'll try again.

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Nothing else to say really. Whether or not they are the same phone doesn't matter. One has a notch with ears, one doesn't. The one that doesn't is preferable to me. If you prefer the other, that's fine too.
 
Ok... I'll try again.

Nothing else to say really. Whether or not they are the same phone doesn't matter. One has a notch with ears, one doesn't. The one that doesn't is preferable to me. If you prefer the other, that's fine too.
just answer this one question from my original post to you:

how is the one on the right displaying the signal status? (wi-fi/bluetooth/etc)

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i'm not trying to argue what i prefer vs what you prefer..

i'm just curious about the image you're posting which shows your preferences..
and it's confusing because if the status info on your preference isn't being shown on a notched display then, how is it being displayed?

i mean, really.. you can see that those two phones in the comparison are identical, right?
that they both have the same notched display ?
 
i mean, really.. you can see that those two phones in the comparison are identical, right?
that they both have the same notched display ?

Done debating this with you. I care about the notch about as much as I care about animojis.

The straight line across the top looks better... be it a bezel... a software fix... whatever. The notch looks utterly retarded.

Nothing else to say about it. Lets get back on the thread topic now. I'll start...

No, the X screen size wasn't suitable for me and that's why I went with the 8 Plus.

Have a great day :)
 
Done debating this with you. I care about the notch about as much as I care about animojis.

The straight line across the top looks better... be it a bezel... a software fix... whatever. The notch looks utterly retarded.

Nothing else to say about it. Lets get back on the thread topic now. I'll start...

No, the X screen size wasn't suitable for me and that's why I went with the 8 Plus.

Have a great day :)
wow.. are you really not understanding what i'm asking about?
not really sure why you're taking this attitude about ignoring me etc.. i mean, you're the one who posted the picture in the first place, right? o_O

anyway, that's fine.. i'll stop talking to you about it.. in the meantime, here's a picture that shows what i think you're trying to say as your preference..
when you show somebody else, you should probably use a version more like this because they are now different screens:

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there's no notch on the right's display anymore.. the status info drops into the main display area..
all the content is pushed down.


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there's no notch on the right's display anymore.. the status info drops into the main display area..
all the content is pushed down.


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That's right... and that's the one that I would buy. (Are you reading this Apple?)

All the content is pushed down because it's a.... bezel?

I'm laughing out loud right. Now sure why you think I'm confused... all I've pointed out the entire time is the one on the left is ugly af.

That's been my point and it hasn't changed. Nobody is ignoring you either... just really not much else to say. You should know by now which one I like.
 
Yes, it will for me. I would rather have a higher resolution OLED in a smaller form factor and no bezels than a lesser resolution LCD in a larger form factor with large bezels/chin. I would be interested in an X Plus potentially next year though. That can wait.

That is what's being left out of allot of discussions, its not just size, its also the different screen (OLED). The OLED screen will pop and make the other iPhone screens seem dated, IMHO.

I too thought it would be the same screen size of the plus and size of the 8. Nonetheless, I will order the X and exchange in 14 days if I'm not happy but I'm sure I will be. I'm tired of carrying a brick around!

I would choose S8 over S8Plus when I was comparing the two side by side.
 
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That is what's being left out of allot of discussions, its not just size, its also the different screen (OLED). The OLED screen will pop and make the other iPhone screens seem dated, IMHO.

I too thought it would be the same screen size of the plus and size of the 8. Nonetheless, I will order the X and exchange in 14 days if I'm not happy bt I'm sure I will be. I'm tired of carrying a brick around!

I would choose S8 over S8Plus when I was comparing the two side by side.

Agreed. There is a whole lot more the X has over the 8 or 8 Plus. I’m looking forward to something more compact and modern looking.
 
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That's right... and that's the one that I would buy. (Are you reading this Apple?)

All the content is pushed down because it's a.... bezel?
no, it's pushed down because the status info needs to be included in the main display area instead of having their own little designated zones.


You should know by now which one I like.
dude, i really don't care which one you like..

it'd be helpful for you to understand I'm not just saying this as some sort of flippant remark while inside, i secretly do care.. no, i actually don't care.

i'm interested in conversing about design.. that's it.. a more objective discussion and less of a subjective one.

but i don't think we're anywhere close to being on the same page about what we're interested in discussing.

adios.
 
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Yep... the X is more for non-Plus owners.

The only X I'd be interested in would be next year's X Plus... that is rid of that hideous notch.

Next year... X Plus, pretty likely. Getting rid of the notch... not going to happen for another two years at best. Getting rid of the notch will be a selling factor for people to upgrade all over again in a couple of years.
 
dude, i really don't care which one you like..

You really think I posted "you should know by now which one I like" because I was asking for your approval?

I would assume no... but in case you did... I posted it because after saying the same &#$&^#&# thing 14 times YOU SHOULD KNOW WHICH ONE I LIKE.

And nobody here gives a *#$& about "no, it's pushed down because the status info needs to be included in the main display area instead of having there own little designated zones."

It's still a bezeled look with a line straight across the top and not a notch with ears.

And you're right, we're OBVIOUSLY not on the same page. I need to up my fanboyism a whole lot.

"Adios."
 
The notch will be seen as iconic which is part of apple’s plan..more companies will copy the notch. It’s the route Samsung are moving to next year
no way Samsung copies a design flaw.they have already perfected the bezel-less display form factor.
if anything,Apple copied the whole bezel-less + OLED display.keep that in mind.
Give me notch over bezels any day
it shouldn't really be this or that.
bezel-less display without stupid notch is what we want.
and it's only matter of time..
remember those ugly antenna bars that were "necessary" of iPhone 6 series? and look how they managed to conceal them easily in 7 series..
Apple always gives away little by little nowadays..perfection is not their policy for some reason.
 
I expect there to be adjustments as developers and consumers get used to the new gestures.

- top safe margin shouldn’t be needed, let content go straight to the notch as the top of the usable space
- side margins look to be there to avoid pushing content down into the rounded corners. They could give those margins back with some careful guidance on usage near the bottom of the screen.
- bottom margin for the home bar seems entirely unnecessary. As soon as people get used to the swipe up gesture then let us hide that bar and use the full height of the screen. iOS 11 on iPad uses a swipe up for the dock in multitasking but doesn’t use an on-screen indicator for it.

Of course by then you’ll have waited a couple of months since September to get your X, then waited for WWDC18, then you’ll be hearing rumours of X2..
 
no way Samsung copies a design flaw.they have already perfected the bezel-less display form factor.
if anything,Apple copied the whole bezel-less + OLED display.keep that in mind.

it shouldn't really be this or that.
bezel-less display without stupid notch is what we want.
and it's only matter of time..
remember those ugly antenna bars that were "necessary" of iPhone 6 series? and look how they managed to conceal them easily in 7 series..
Apple always gives away little by little nowadays..perfection is not their policy for some reason.

You want your cake and eat it too. Assuming Apple stick with FaceID, they aren’t going fully bezelless - currently there is no way to hide cameras and the other elements behind a display.

The comments showing a preference for a 'software bezel' are just opinion but there are a lot of them. Maybe Apple will allow an option for that?
Personally I don’t mind - current status bar is usually translucent showing the app or home screen background behind it, and this follows the same approach. It also gives more of a sense of an edge to edge display.
 
Is the 'notch' copyrighted? Maybe Apple has a patent for the notch.

I think it's worth considering that notch may be big. I know, it sounds crazy, but think 'sheep'. Also, I think there's notch shock at first, but this will disappear if you start to see other phones with it.
 
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In landscape mode it will behave just like the iPhone 6/7/8.
So none of the two panes that you have in the Plus models.

Thanks. I got a + so dont know how it is on the regular.
So the home screen won”t rotate ?
and no two panes (which is no use to me.)
But the keyboard could be fit for landscape right?
Anything else?
 
I am confused by the renders on the previous page. So in portrait mode while running apps and web browsing is the X smaller than the Plus or not? Is there no answer?
 
I am confused by the renders on the previous page. So in portrait mode while running apps and web browsing is the X smaller than the Plus or not? Is there no answer?
there is a difference. however, it’s very slight and trying to describe it via text/pictures is going to be much less effective than trying the phones side by side in your own hands with your own eyes.

i know you wish you could have , today, a definitive comparison as to which one you will like to use better in the most amount of situations.. but it’s just not possible to do that right now.

if you’re on the fence and none of the text/pictures are aiding in clarity for you then you’re just going to have to find some patience inside ;)

it’s less than a month
 
there is a difference. however, it’s very slight and trying to describe it via text/pictures is going to be much less effective than trying the phones side by side in your own hands with your own eyes.

i know you wish you could have , today, a definitive comparison as to which one you will like to use better in the most amount of situations.. but it’s just not possible to do that right now.

if you’re on the fence and none of the text/pictures are aiding in clarity for you then you’re just going to have to find some patience inside ;)

it’s less than a month
The problem is that if I don't order on the 27th I have to wait till 2018 by which time I might as well get the Plus iPhone X releasing next year.
 
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The problem is that if I don't order on the 27th I have to wait till 2018 by which time I might as well get the Plus iPhone X releasing next year.
nah.. preorder the X immediately.
if you don’t like it, swap it for the 8 and get the difference in $ back.
(or just return the X for full refund)


(at least, that’s what i’d do in your situation;) )
 
wow.. are you really not understanding what i'm asking about?
not really sure why you're taking this attitude about ignoring me etc.. i mean, you're the one who posted the picture in the first place, right? o_O

anyway, that's fine.. i'll stop talking to you about it.. in the meantime, here's a picture that shows what i think you're trying to say as your preference..
when you show somebody else, you should probably use a version more like this because they are now different screens:

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there's no notch on the right's display anymore.. the status info drops into the main display area..
all the content is pushed down.


.
Yes
just answer this one question from my original post to you:

how is the one on the right displaying the signal status? (wi-fi/bluetooth/etc)

View attachment 724161


i'm not trying to argue what i prefer vs what you prefer..

i'm just curious about the image you're posting which shows your preferences..
and it's confusing because if the status info on your preference isn't being shown on a notched display then, how is it being displayed?

i mean, really.. you can see that those two phones in the comparison are identical, right?
that they both have the same notched display ?
ummm no they are not identical the one on the right has a straight bezel going across making it symetrical and the other is an eye sore.
 
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