Very funny and may be true of the Apple Watch. Really wouldn't bet on it though. Let's wait a little and see what the reality is when it goes on sale.
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Will Jony Ive get demoted now that the watch is a flop?
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Very funny and may be true of the Apple Watch. Really wouldn't bet on it though. Let's wait a little and see what the reality is when it goes on sale.
yep. clear trolling. I just watched all of the reviews and they did not sound like bad reviews to me. No big surprises except for the box.
I just wish so many of them had not had the SS Link. Now EVERYONE is going to want one and compete with me. It looks GREAT.
I just wish so many of them had not had the SS Link. Now EVERYONE is going to want one and compete with me. It looks GREAT.
I'm a "watch guy," and I respectfully disagree. I've also pointed out before, but on all the watch forums that I regularly spend time on, these disagreements aren't happening. You know why? Because nobody is talking about the Apple watch. It is literally not on the radar of watch people, or more specifically, WIS's, as they like to be called.
Just because Apple hired a woman who used to run Burberry (and they paid her 70 some million dollars, I'm quite sure she would have accepted whether she believes in the watch as fashion or not), doesn't make it fashion. It's big and it's bulky, and it lacks personality and charm. I'd wear my Rolex or Panerai any day of the week over the Apple Watch if I was trying to look good.
Just because Apple hired a woman who used to run Burberry (and they paid her 70 some million dollars, I'm quite sure she would have accepted whether she believes in the watch as fashion or not), doesn't make it fashion. It's big and it's bulky, and it lacks personality and charm. I'd wear my Rolex or Panerai any day of the week over the Apple Watch if I was trying to look good.
Where's the "+100500" button?
Nilay Patel nailed it calling it "unfocused". If Steve Jobs watched his review, Cook, Ive, Lynch, and Ahrendts would be flying out of their offices feet first, faster than their pink slips.
You're spot on about the 3 models. My analogy: #⌚️ models are like the same Neon Dodges with aluminum, steel, and gold body. It's still Neon Dodge, no matter how much you pay!
I think you are in correct in your assessment that this watch isn't made for the typical watch wearer crowd to begin with. I think they are way too conservative to begin with. This new piece of technology is not appealing to them.
That's not surprising. Its tech in watch form. Apple may be "trying", using that term very loosely, to enter the high end fashion world with this watch, But its still tech.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I was thinking for awhile now that Apple makes it sound like there are several "models" but basically it's the same watch with different superficial variations. Not that I have a problem with that, but the reviewers seem to, a bit. And I think a lot of customers might, too. Those wanting the Sport would have wanted it primed for fitness functions. As it is now, a lot of people are getting it because they see it as the cheapest entry level model.
Another thing that concerned me was that the Apple Watch seems the least ready for its debut than most other of their products that I've read about in awhile. It sounds a bit rushed. I didn't have the very first IPhone so this may not be a big deal. I'm just used to a more flawless "it just works" user experience that the reviewers were noting was not so there yet.
But the reviewers were in the end just people like myself. They weren't quite as thorough as I'd hoped and as some of the people on this forum are likely to be, given the same opportunity.
I was really put off by that so-called fashion discussion in The Verge review. For starters, I was surprised that most of those presumably educated professional adults seemed incapable of expressing a clear thought without prefacing a sentence with "like". That entire segment was a sloppy mess and I'll stop now before my snarky side comes out.
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It DOES look sharp. But I think it was unfortunate that Apple gave out the same watch choices to every reviewer and apparently has not sent the sport model out yet, at least not that I've seen.
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How can a product that they haven't even began taking preorders for be declared a flop?
It could be getting an average review score of 1/10 and still sell in the tens of millions. Similarly, a product being scored 10/10 can fail to sell at all. The fact is, most people have probably made up their mind about buying one long before any reviews came out, and it's unlikely that those reviews will change their mind either way.
It could be getting an average review score of 1/10 and still sell in the tens of millions. Similarly, a product being scored 10/10 can fail to sell at all. The fact is, most people have probably made up their mind about buying one long before any reviews came out, and it's unlikely that those reviews will change their mind either way.
I didn't say he succeeded with the watch guys. John Gruber's review says that much. I wear a watch but am not a "watch person." It's just something I've gotten used to wearing. I'm not sure how I'll react to the Apple Watch, but for about the price of a "mall watch" it's worth a shot for me.
I wouldn't say "rushed" so much as that they were very aggressive in putting in features, perhaps too much so. I usually don't play the "what would Steve have done" game, but I do think that he'd have likely let Ive indulge his fantasy but tempered the feature set or called it a "hobby" like the Apple TV. Cook has more pressure to be seen "innovating" (or at least not stagnating), and particularly back in late 2012 and 2013 when Samsung was at its peak, so he probably gave Ive freer reign.
I still think I'll get one. The original iPhone "worked" but was VERY feature constrained. Actually, as a phone, it wasn't that good. It lacked 3G (which was better for voice as well as data) and dropped calls a lot (though arguable some of that was AT&T). It was a great wi-fi Internet device, and decent on the go if you didn't mind the piddly EDGE speeds, a decent iPod, and had a passable phone. It's a far cry from where it is now. It didn't support Exchange e-mail (so it was tough to get companies to support it), have real apps (Steve Jobs seriously suggested web apps for a time), and didn't support common phone features like MMS.
I didnt say that, i said "its fair to say the watch is a little limp, no big USP and is bettered by most of its rivals who have been out for a while." I agree most of the existing ones are have better features and battery life.
Every review of a new iPhone for the past seven years has said "It's nice and an improvement over what you have now, but you don't need one." That hasn't stopped people from buying millions of them.
The fact that this is a brand-new product category for Apple seems to be lost on many people. Remember the first iPhone? I bought one on launch day. It was great, but it was severely limited - no third-party apps, no copy and paste, no 3G internet, no support for business email, only available on a sucky network (AT&T), etc. Not to mention it cost $800.
I'd say these reviews are great.
The fact that this is a brand-new product category for Apple seems to be lost on many people. Remember the first iPhone? I bought one on launch day. It was great, but it was severely limited - no third-party apps, no copy and paste, no 3G internet, no support for business email, only available on a sucky network (AT&T), etc. Not to mention it cost $800.
I'd say these reviews are great.
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I REALLY hope there isn't a demand for the Apple Watch......so I can get my order in nice and quickly and know I won't have to wait to get this beast on my wrist haha!!
OP no matter what you try and say, you are simply trolling. Nothing more. The general consensus is that its the best smartwatch ever made, but not everyone needs or wants a smartwatch which is exactly true. Some people don't even like wearing watches.
I must admit though you've tried your best to turn around what the reviews actually said and make it sound like the Apple Watch is a flop, which quite simply isn't true. Oh and it will sell millions. Bye
OP no matter what you try and say, you are simply trolling. Nothing more. The general consensus is that its the best smartwatch ever made, but not everyone needs or wants a smartwatch which is exactly true. Some people don't even like wearing watches.
I must admit though you've tried your best to turn around what the reviews actually said and make it sound like the Apple Watch is a flop, which quite simply isn't true. Oh and it will sell millions. Bye
Ok what I meant is, no "normal" people will want it. I'm a geek. I will buy one. I love apple products so I buy them no matter what.
Uh if you're intelligent it's pretty simple.. As I said in my comment you simply discuss what it does. And how well it does that. In other words is it slow? Is it fast? Are there glitches?
The I don't think so.
OP, you released a terrible post and you're still in the forum. I think it will be much the same for Jony even if the watch does not succeed.
OP, you released a terrible post and you're still in the forum. I think it will be much the same for Jony even if the watch does not succeed.
"How well" is subjective and therefore a matter of opinion. What may be unacceptable to one person, may be perfectly acceptable to another. Same with slow vs. fast.
That's because it was Nilay Patel - he isn't the best writer or content producer. Overall his review was pretty objective I felt.
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