Will the new macbook pros have usb 3.0?

[Max(IT)]

I don't think so.
Actually I hope that the crap USB will be soon replaced by something much more efficent (FW already is, and I would like to have Lightpeak as a standard)

 

[gfiz]

well, Apple has to be adding something to take the Mac "to the next level" in 2010...I've got to think USB 3.0/SATA 3 have to be two possibilities. It's not going to be LightPeak, forget it...that won't be commercially available for at least a year. what else is there? Or did he mean "take it to the next level" in the same capacity that the iPad is "magical and revolutionary"? If that's the case, then yea, no USB 3.0, and maybe no i5/i7's...maybe just a bigger C2D.

 

[apw100]

In my opinion, the most likely improvements that the MBP will receive are the following(listed from most likely to least). I would expect that Apple would add eSATA before USB 3.0 considering that it is a more mature technology.

Likely
1. i5/i7 processors
2. GPU upgrade, probably 330m
3. IPS display
4. eSATA
Unlikely...
4. SSD option
5. Blu-ray drive
6. USB 3.0

 

[mrsir2009]

I'm sorry, but that ain't gunna happen in the next MBP update.

 

[ARF900]

I cant wait for ipods to use USB 3.0, As ipods get more and more memory syncing takes forever.

 

[cube]

I won't be buying a new MBP until it has ExpressCard anyway (and at least 2.0)

 

[mrsir2009]

I cant wait for ipods to use USB 3.0, As ipods get more and more memory syncing takes forever.

When Apple brings USB3 out it will be for all their products hopefully!

 

[Thiol]

No because of Lightpeak...

 

[gfiz]

In my opinion, the most likely improvements that the MBP will receive are the following(listed from most likely to least). I would expect that Apple would add eSATA before USB 3.0 considering that it is a more mature technology.

Likely
1. i5/i7 processors
2. GPU upgrade, probably 330m
3. IPS display
4. eSATA
Unlikely...
4. SSD option
5. Blu-ray drive
6. USB 3.0

they already offer SSD's, so they're obviously going to continue to do so. And I think USB 3.0 is much more likely than IPS for the laptops or even eSATA connector.

 

[apw100]

they already offer SSD's, so they're obviously going to continue to do so. And I think USB 3.0 is much more likely than IPS for the laptops or even eSATA connector.

Sorry, I meant "SSD standard" not option.

Considering that the $500 ipad(which is a mainstream device, not "pro") will be using an IPS display, I'd say that there is a good chance that there will be one in the MBPs. They need it much more than the iPad since MBPs are used by the majority of photographers/graphics professionals.

 

[stefan15]

Which laptops are shipping wuth USB 3?

http://tinyurl.com/yk73r6p

 

[gfiz]

Sorry, I meant "SSD standard" not option.

Considering that the $500 ipad(which is a mainstream device, not "pro") will be using an IPS display, I'd say that there is a good chance that there will be one in the MBPs. They need it much more than the iPad since MBPs are used by the majority of photographers/graphics professionals.

yea, but the main advantage of IPS is viewing angles, and I dare say on a laptop it's really much less a concern than on the iPad or even on the iMac. And I don't see the additional cost (and it would be a pretty good bump over TN, would be worth it for most laptop use.

 

[gothamm]

yea, but the main advantage of IPS is viewing angles, and I dare say on a laptop it's really much less a concern than on the iPad or even on the iMac. And I don't see the additional cost (and it would be a pretty good bump over TN, would be worth it for most laptop use.

don't forget about far superior color accuracy, and deeper blacks.

 

[gfiz]

don't forget about far superior color accuracy, and deeper blacks.

this is true, but then you also have the tradeoff of response time as well. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer an IPS screen, but it really depends on the premium price, because it's value I think is considerably diminished on a laptop from a normal monitor. Maybe on the 17" I could see a bit more value.

 

[Bubba Satori]

It always amazes me how some Apple enthusiasts are completely unaware of the features already available on non-Apple laptops. It's as if they are in a bubble. The first PC laptops with USB 3.0 have already shipped and they have intel motherboards.

It's also funny to see that prior to a feature being released by Apple--its regarded by the enthusiasts as "unnecessary" or "buggy" but as soon as Apple decides to catch up and include it the same feature is "groundbreaking" and "changes the game".

It's not so much a bubble as this...

See post #9 for the quintessential example of "Apple doesn't have it, therefore you don't need it"
or what I like to call the Reality Distortion Field Missing Feature Psychosis.

 

[apw100]

this is true, but then you also have the tradeoff of response time as well. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer an IPS screen, but it really depends on the premium price, because it's value I think is considerably diminished on a laptop from a normal monitor. Maybe on the 17" I could see a bit more value.

IPS would be a major improvement for MacBooks displays. The newer IPS displays have 6ms response time and the color representation is much much better then TN. IPS panels are true 8-bit displays, TN panels are 6-bit and use dithering to fake the other colors.
Considering that the MBPs are "pro" products, they need to have a pro display. Virtually all monitors aimed at photographers, videographers and graphic designers are IPS or PVA, none are TN. Considering that a huge segment of MBP users are in one of those professions, an IPS screen would arguably be a more welcome upgrade than an Arrandale CPU.

 

[gfiz]

IPS would be a major improvement for MacBooks displays. The newer IPS displays have 6ms response time and the color representation is much much better then TN. IPS panels are true 8-bit displays, TN panels are 6-bit and use dithering to fake the other colors.
Considering that the MBPs are "pro" products, they need to have a pro display. Virtually all monitors aimed at photographers, videographers and graphic designers are IPS or PVA, none are TN. Considering that a huge segment of MBP users are in one of those professions, an IPS screen would arguably be a more welcome upgrade than an Arrandale CPU.

I'm sold. ...any other laptops with IPS displays currently? And any guess how much of a premium it would cost wise?

 

[SWC]

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Likely
1. i5/i7 processors
2. GPU upgrade, probably 330m
3. IPS display
4. eSATA
Unlikely...
4. SSD option
5. Blu-ray drive
6. USB 3.0

I think the list should read more like this...

Likely
1 SSD (already an option)
2 i5 maybe i7 proc
3 GPU
4 IPS panel (iMac has one and now even the iPad will have one)
Unlikely
5 usb 3.0 (apple used to be all about cutting edge now so much anymore but would be nice)
6 Blu-Ray
7 E-sata

 

[kim6ball]

When are the new ones coming out?

 

[mikem7522]

usb 3.0 just came out and there are already mutliple drives ive seen supporting it. Its not a big deal for them to put it in the new MBPs because its backwards compatible. It would be a huge disappointment for me if they didnt include it.

 

[Thiol]

usb 3.0 just came out and there are already mutliple drives ive seen supporting it. Its not a big deal for them to put it in the new MBPs because its backwards compatible. It would be a huge disappointment for me if they didnt include it.

I'm guessing it would cost more. Not a huge deal, but not necessary.

And short of SSD to SSD transfers (and some RAID setups), most combinations of internal and external hard drives don't even saturate the FW800 port.

 

[Spock]

As long we have Intel MOtherboards in our MacBooks we wont see USB 3.0 before 2nd Quarter 2011 Intel stated (a long time ago). I can live with that decision.

Intel does not make the MacBook logic-board, Nvidia does.

 

[gfiz]

Intel does not make the MacBook logic-board, Nvidia does.

not if it's going to support arrandale

(edit: and I'm pretty sure nvidia didn't make the previous logic board, just the chipset. I'm not sure what oem supplies for Apple, but wouldn't be surprised if it's Foxconn or Asus or someone of the ilk.)

 

[simonshek]

I'm thinking how do they put lightpeak, firewire, and usb 3.0 together on a 13" mb/mbp

 

[iketeru]

Intel does not make the MacBook logic-board, Nvidia does.

Apple certainly does design the motherboard (or logic board), but Nvidia does not "make" or produce the board, they just make the chipset on the board.