Will the new macbook pros have usb 3.0?

[apw100]

I'm sold. ...any other laptops with IPS displays currently? And any guess how much of a premium it would cost wise?

There have been a few, but they are rare. The IBM T60p had an IPS screen from what I've read, but I have never seen one.

Here is a short article about the iPad's use of IPS tech...

http://www.macworld.com/article/146028/2010/02/inplaneswitching.html

 

[gfiz]

There have been a few, but they are rare. The IBM T60p had an IPS screen from what I've read, but I have never seen one.

Here is a short article about the iPad's use of IPS tech...

http://www.macworld.com/article/146028/2010/02/inplaneswitching.html

I know Asus announced one about 5 years ago, but don't know what ever came of it, and they're not still making them to the best of my knowledge, so I wonder what they found out and the rest of the industry found out that they either very sparse, or completely absent. Is it purely cost?

 

[Max(IT)]

When are the new ones coming out?

this is a good question

 

[m85476585]

Doubtful. Do you have many USB 3.0 devices?

No, but I would buy one (or two or three) in an instant if my MBP had USB3.
http://usb.brando.com/usb-3-0-2-5-sata-hdd-enclosure_p01341c044d15.html

My 640Gb (80-100Mb/sec max) and 1Tb (120Mb/sec sustained) disks are limited by Firewire 800 (70-77Mb/sec), and eSATA expresscards are unreliable (see the eSATA expresscard thread), and the current 15" MBPs don't have expresscard slots.

 

[mrsir2009]

It's not so much a bubble as this...

See post #9 for the quintessential example of "Apple doesn't have it, therefore you don't need it"
or what I like to call the Reality Distortion Field Missing Feature Psychosis.

Yeahya bro, nice one

 

[kernkraft]

How about some processors fit for this decade? Or some optional Blu Ray drives? Or matte screen options?

USB 3?! In 2015! This is Apple.

 

[Hemingray]

USB succeeded thanks to Apple.

Yes, but if I remember correctly they dragged their heels a bit on USB 2.0. For this reason I sincerely doubt they'll put USB 3.0 in the next revisions. And if they do... hey, I'll be pleasantly surprised. I haven't really seen USB 3.0 become commonplace enough yet for them to jump on board.

 

[Max(IT)]

No, but I would buy one (or two or three) in an instant if my MBP had USB3.
http://usb.brando.com/usb-3-0-2-5-sata-hdd-enclosure_p01341c044d15.html

My 640Gb (80-100Mb/sec max) and 1Tb (120Mb/sec sustained) disks are limited by Firewire 800 (70-77Mb/sec), and eSATA expresscards are unreliable (see the eSATA expresscard thread), and the current 15" MBPs don't have expresscard slots.

Fw800 can reach 85-90 Mb/s, so I don't see it as a limit for your hard drives.
Are you sure that USB3.0 will be reliable enough ?
I'm really hoping for FW3200 or LightPeak

 

[Max(IT)]

How about some processors fit for this decade? Or some optional Blu Ray drives? Or matte screen options?

USB 3?! In 2015! This is Apple.

No, it's INTEL. as far as I know Intel is not really supporting it

 

[Tyrion]

No USB 3.0
No Blu-Ray either

Apple does not need to "get with the program"
Those are your expectations, not their direction

USB 3.0 will come eventually, when there are devices to warrant it
Blu-Ray may never be an option, and frankly, I don't lose any sleep over it

Woof, Woof - Dawg

This is just hilarious. What's their direction, then? Selling "professional" machines with long outdated ports and an optical drive that only reads a dead medium?
Come on, it's 2010. I'd love to get a new MBP, but I do expect Apple to at least offer similar features to its competitors. I mean, have you looked at the Thinkpad W510 or the Elitebook 8450 lately? They absolutely spank the current MBPs in every respect (and they do have USB 3.0, as befits a "professional" Laptop in the year 2010).

 

[Max(IT)]

This is just hilarious. What's their direction, then? Selling "professional" machines with long outdated ports and an optical drive that only reads a dead medium?
Come on, it's 2010. I'd love to get a new MBP, but I do expect Apple to at least offer similar features to its competitors. I mean, have you looked at the Thinkpad W510 or the Elitebook 8450 lately? They absolutely spank the current MBPs in every respect (and they do have USB 3.0, as befits a "professional" Laptop in the year 2010).

Firewire 800 is by no means an "outdated" port

 

[Tyrion]

Firewire 800 is by no means an "outdated" port

Yeah, FW is awesome, you're preaching to the choir. But it's simply not as ubiquitous as USB, so having the latest iteration of USB is a must.
Things might be different today if Apple had really pushed FW in the past ten years, but they haven't - they got on board with USB like everyone else, and now I expect them to stay on top of things.

 

[Spandexman]

This is just hilarious. What's their direction, then? Selling "professional" machines with long outdated ports and an optical drive that only reads a dead medium?
Come on, it's 2010. I'd love to get a new MBP, but I do expect Apple to at least offer similar features to its competitors. I mean, have you looked at the Thinkpad W510 or the Elitebook 8450 lately? They absolutely spank the current MBPs in every respect (and they do have USB 3.0, as befits a "professional" Laptop in the year 2010).

In what respect is DVD a dead medium?

 

[DocNYz]

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Seriously I'm not buying another computer or drive without it

 

[cube]

I haven't really seen USB 3.0 become commonplace enough yet for them to jump on board.

It doesn't need to be commonplace to be added. It just needs a good chance of becoming commonplace within the next 3 years.

 

[Dozerrox]

It doesn't need to be commonplace to be added. It just needs a good chance of becoming commonplace within the next 3 years.

It would definitely make sense to add it, but my thinking is that Apple might leave it out, so that they have another feature that they add to the next refresh, maybe make people upgrade their laptops from the ones coming up...

 

[SecretAsianMan]

If the new MBPs do not have USB 3, then I probably will wait for a later refresh that does.

 

[Max(IT)]

It doesn't need to be commonplace to be added. It just needs a good chance of becoming commonplace within the next 3 years.

if so, you will see it in a MBP within the next 3 years.
But not now ...

 

[Tyrion]

In what respect is DVD a dead medium?

Uh, it's been superseded by Blu-Ray? I mean, are you seriously still buying DVDs? I sometimes get one when they're like five to ten bucks, but still, they're basically a last-gen medium. Which can have a certain charm, no doubt - I still buy records on Vinyl, for example. But unlike DVDs they have some advantages over CDs, and also look cool, and I know they're basically just nice curiosities. DVDs on the other hand? Please. The sooner they go away, the better. I want FullHD, baby, and I sure as hell expect it in a high-end laptop.

 

[Tyrion]

if so, you will see it in a MBP within the next 3 years.
But not now ...

That's not how this works. If I buy an expensive machine like the MBP, I expect to be able to use it with modern technology for at least a few years. A new laptop without USB 3.0 is pretty much outdated out of the box in terms of dealing with cutting-edge peripherals.

 

[Max(IT)]

Uh, it's been superseded by Blu-Ray? I mean, are you seriously still buying DVDs? I sometimes get one when they're like five to ten bucks, but still, they're basically a last-gen medium. Which can have a certain charm, no doubt - I still buy records on Vinyl, for example. But unlike DVDs they have some advantages over CDs, and also look cool, and I know they're basically just nice curiosities. DVDs on the other hand? Please. The sooner they go away, the better. I want FullHD, baby, and I sure as hell expect it in a high-end laptop.

there are MILLIONS of people buying DVDs right now ...
And the future is digital delivery, not BD, in my opinion .... (I have a BD player, BTW).

That's not how this works. If I buy an expensive machine like the MBP, I expect to be able to use it with modern technology for at least a few years. A new laptop without USB 3.0 is pretty much outdated out of the box in terms of dealing with cutting-edge peripherals.

And who decided this ? You ?
USB 3.0 is not yet a standard with a clear future, and Intel it's not directly supporting it so far. May be, and maybe not. We are goingo to see in the next year.

So it's not so mandatory right now to have an USB 3.0 port.

 

[Tyrion]

It's pretty simple: if I pay 2'500-3'000 for a computer, I'd expect it support the latest standards in optical media and connectivity so that it will remain a viable "professional" machine for a bit longer than a few months.
Sheesh, why are your expectations so low? Why should I pay to see a movie in crappy standard def when I can get it in HD? What happened to the Apple that killed the Floppy drive? If I get an MBP, I'll keep it for a few years. During this time, I would like to be able to watch movies on my expensive computer in an adequate quality. DVD does not provide that. Ergo, give us Blu-Ray! It's getting embarrassing; even cheap sub-1000 laptops now have BR as a stock feature.

BTW, I'd agree that digital distribution is the future, but do you honestly see this happening in the next few years? The iTunes store is not even selling movies outside of the US right now, for Christ's sake. Also, it does not offer media at a quality that even remotely approaches that of BR. It's just not a viable alternative to BR yet; this will take a few more years. When we all have 1Gbps internet connections, 2 TB harddrives and 1080p-media in the iTunes store all over the world I'll gladly get rid of my BR drive.

And you must be kidding about USB 3.0! USB 2.0 is the de facto standard for connectivity and USB 3.0 is set to replace it within the year, with the first computers supporting it already available RIGHT NOW. What, do you think that FW800/3200 or Light Peak will magically rise to the top in the next few months, negating any need for USB 3.0?

 

[mikem7522]

And you must be kidding about USB 3.0! USB 2.0 is the de facto standard for connectivity and USB 3.0 is set to replace it within the year, with the first computers supporting it already available RIGHT NOW. What, do you think that FW800/3200 or Light Peak will magically rise to the top in the next few months, negating any need for USB 3.0?

Exactly. I don't understand why so many people are against usb 3.0. Were all of you guys against 2.0 when 1.1 was still around? It's all the same sh*t just faster.

 

[dagamer34]

I'd rather they drop the optical drive all together, make the battery larger, and sell a Blu-ray drive as an external USB drive like the USB SuperDrive for the MacBook Air.

Because let's face it, unless you watch movies all the time on your computer, the DVD drive is the least used thing in a laptop, and it takes up quite a bit of board space.

 

[Tyrion]

I'd rather they drop the optical drive all together, make the battery larger, and sell a Blu-ray drive as an external USB drive like the USB SuperDrive for the MacBook Air.

Because let's face it, unless you watch movies all the time on your computer, the DVD drive is the least used thing in a laptop, and it takes up quite a bit of board space.

Well, I don't own a TV (and neither do most people I know, we're all students living in stuffed rooms anyway ), so my MBP is basically my main media hub. That said, I could live with an external BR-drive if they make it affordable and give me the possibility to configure an MBP with dual SSDs or a large HDD combined with a smaller SSD. Anything's better than a Superdrive, basically.