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Windows 10 is outright spyware
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Over 30 MINUTES disabling all that BS. Yeah sure it isn't like spyware at all. People just want to play TEH GAMEZZZZZZZ. Anyone in here is plain out delusional defending that win10 is great and all those horrible talking points. If Macs did the exact same thing then everyone of these people in here would be saying the exact opposite.
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Amazing. You single handily owned all the W10 defenders.
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I dont see it as an issue, 30seconds sorted.
MS id, no different to apple id, location services same as, diagnostic info same as... drama queens will always moan.
MS id, no different to apple id, location services same as, diagnostic info same as... drama queens will always moan.
We all have our things, it would take me far more than 30 seconds to 'sort it out' with Windows 10. People have little choice but to accept it of course since it is on everything. I don't count Apple since they are a certain niche of the market which works well for them. I also get what MS is doing, data mining = cash and selling an OS every 3 years in today's world where no one wants to pay for anything is especially hard. As well as PC buyers do it far less than they use to.
When I looked through the video above and looked into other things it would take me at least 15-20 mins just turning off privacy and certain other settings, perhaps longer. A MS ID is like an Apple ID, but I have seen no reason (yet) why apple would whore out your anonymous info for profit. Most I have ever seen is iTunes recommendations, I certainly won't accept it at an OS level though. App Stores make sense to have some data collection. The 2008 XBOX dashboard upset still makes me vomit a little. It was for netflix? No it was for dem ads and gamerzzz showed their intelligence and continue to do so as that industry is the trashiest one on the planet.
Diagnostic info from what I have seen has always asked me or informed me it was sending data to Apple. Usually it does say "will be sent automatically" which I don't mind, but ALL the telemetry data on Windows 10 by default sucks for folks like me that would gladly PAY to have all that turned off. All these claims it will help this and help that, well I have seen this song and dance many times and those words don't mean anything to me. I agree they have the same stuff to a degree but it is being used far differently. I don't find it nefarious or evil, I find it a product of a society in its current form.
I am not getting into Apple does it too convo, if that's where were are heading then let's agree to disagree. Google does it but I will give them that they are more upfront about what they are taking, they don't seem to hide it. MS is hiding something IMO, and we shall see if it is more adverts for Doritos and Energizer in the actual OS. I could be wrong of course and parts of what MS is trying to do seems nice, but talk is one thing actions are another.
If you are going to defend it then I would like these points answered in you don't mind. Just asking.
1. How is swept under the rug that win10 is being downloaded and using malware like tactics to annoy users. (Yes iOS7, we are not talking about Apple here)
2. What is it with the botnet to seed other peoples updates for people with low caps? Metered connections don't work since 90% don't know what that is.
3. Why are privacy settings that were turned off, turned back on with updates?
Just curious, I have more that other companies would be getting rammed for. MS does get the hate just not here. The same people in this thread defending it would rail other companies for the same thing. That makes no sense and is disgraceful IMO.
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I will say MS is pushing harder at adding and updating its OS, then OS X right now. We have Anniversary due out in the summer and I'm looking forward to what MS adds in. So far I'm hearing a lot of good things.
I'm not wanting to be on the fast ring, as I tend to need a stable system, the same with OS X and its beta program.
OS X does some things better then windows, and Windows does some things better.
I'm not wanting to be on the fast ring, as I tend to need a stable system, the same with OS X and its beta program.
OS X does some things better then windows, and Windows does some things better.
I'm about 50-50 myself. I find a lot of things I like in Win10, but I do miss the integration I get with OS X, i.e., messages. Another downside for me is the scaling on my iMac works better with OS X. I have it tuned nicely in windows 10 now, but OS X does a better more consistent job.
You are absolutely right about the scaling. I could not stand my Surface Pro 3. Anything that was not a UWP was blurry and difficult to read with 150% and 200% scaling. I got rid of that system.
I bought a Windows 10 PC for gaming, the first program I ran on it was ShutUp10. This might help you come to terms with the OS. I'm not a fan of them tracking every little thing I do, but for a gaming PC, I don't need any of the functionality that these things disable. I also didn't disable everything, that could have adverse affects, such as submitting virus detections back to Microsoft which has been going on since the release of Windows Defender. If you are really that adamant that you'd rather not install Windows on your computer, there are plenty of free Linux alternatives that you can use instead of blasting your frustration out on a forum.
I'm ok with it, what I find more problematic is running gotomypc on my iMac. Given the high resolution, that app has issues, I usually boost the magnification of that app by 150 to 200% but for some reason my remote cursor is still too tiny.
So basically the scaling is not as good as OSX but its manageable on my SP3, but on my iMac the higher resolution amplifies that issue.
I've seen that (youtube) and read that (numerous places) I find that to be pretty crappy. I haven't ran Windows since Vista. I didn't have any issues with Vista actually, I liked the interface in all honesty. I get that they can't sell an OS for 100-200 every 3 years in this current climate, so basically it looks to be the google strategy. Not a fan of it personally but as Flynn said, Linux is out there if needed. IMO if one buys a Surface or Surfacebook, or pays for Windows OEM or retail then all of that data collection should be opt in. Issue there is they have to pick one strategy I guess.
I don't in any way think any nefarious is going on with the data, I just like my OS out of the way as much as possible. The background stuff can be annoying and the auto updates have caused some havoc as well from what I read. MS having that 95% monopoly (Basically) was never a good thing. Kind of worried about Android in the future for the same type of stuff. Apple will only get so much with their strategy, so it would be nice if we have a legit 3rd option on desktops/laptops. I will call it, ads are coming into win10. Energizer, Budwesier etc.. one day I firmly belie it will happen. Way of the future.
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How's it any different to Apples update policy? iOS bugs the crap out of you until you succumb to upgrade and now they have taken that one step further still. If you say "later" to upgrade it comes back and says what time tonight do you want me to run the upgrade. wtf!
What part of no is not understood in Cupertino?
What part of no is not understood in Cupertino?
You can say not to Apple as long as you want you can only delay updates on non-enterpise W10 for so long before it will update without your approval.
Like people red the eula......
Then once you update on iOS you'll never be able to go back.....
Developer: Updates will patch the software and future version will be more stable.
User: Why you want me to update? Current state is really stable.
Such conversation happens frequently in our modern tech life. However, everyone all need to repair their cars, buildings etc periodically to let them last a little bit longer. I guess, this theory applies to software development too.
User: Why you want me to update? Current state is really stable.
Such conversation happens frequently in our modern tech life. However, everyone all need to repair their cars, buildings etc periodically to let them last a little bit longer. I guess, this theory applies to software development too.
You miss the point.. i said no to the upgrade.. that should be enough.
I dont need a "are you sure", "are you sure you are sure", every time i login. plus the way they jump you to a second screen to run it over night is kinda sneaky. And as pointed out above, with MS i can restore to any point.. with Apple i can restore to any point they want you to be at only..
For me, that's the biggest negative in W10. Even if/when you set up your machine the way you want, whether it be to address privacy concerns or general operation, because of the forced updates regimen, you're potentially 1 forced update away from it being modified not to your liking, and of course of it being bricked.
To avoid updates, you can still shut off WUS or use (or pretend to use) a metered connection. Other experimentation -- http://www.infoworld.com/article/30...tes-without-breaking-your-machine-part-2.html
All the efforts might end up being a cat and mouse game. But it's worth a try if one has to, or wants to, run W10.
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Where are these comments about MS patches or updates making changes or modifications to your settings coming from?
Certainly no patches or updates have reset or changed my settings since i started with it in Sept/Oct time. This is like bad game of Chinese whispers and comments have suddenly become true..
Certainly no patches or updates have reset or changed my settings since i started with it in Sept/Oct time. This is like bad game of Chinese whispers and comments have suddenly become true..
It's the past history of Windows. I'm glad your settings haven't changed. But you're right, I should've said -- because of the forced updates regimen, you're potentially 1 update away from.... I'll edit.
But that's history, done and gone. That doesn't mean its going to happen in the future.. Look at some of the mistakes apple have made - i bet they don't intentional makes those mistakes again either.
All seems like mass hysteria and OS basing over nothing to me..
All seems like mass hysteria and OS basing over nothing to me..