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Tough choice. Having to decide between 70% of something and 100% of nothing.
It's not everyone's solution, and even if you get in the habit of using it it may not solve some other issue. I get it. I am sure there are people out there that love launchpad, but I am not one of them.
I am not really sure how one expects to learn the app preferences of the locals when they travel. Is that a conversation you find yourself having with strangers... ever? Why would that ever come up?
Also, if it's not considered a basic service outside of the US, does that make it a premium service? Are picture messages like the HBO of phone service? Is group texting the equivalent of making it rain?
Yo, dawg, I totally sent 20 people a text last night. It got crazy in the hizzouse!
OneNote is so bad Microsoft should be reimbursing the tuition for students who purchased a surface.
Because perhaps you're wrong about that like 85%? 🙄. Also Apple is very popular and they have a lot of devices that dominate such as the iPhone, the iPad and the Apple Watch. The Mac is a very popular machine and Microsoft has only an OS that they have to license to every other PC manufacturer and much of them make junk which makes people want to buy Macs. If you step out from that "85%" bubble you would realize that an OS alone does not make a company successful.
If you think dominating an enterprise market wins them any applause then that's just laughable. Enterprise/Gov entities are the least financially beneficial to Microsoft because this is not the market that keeps buying new products. Enterprise customers to tend to make one big purchase and hold on to the same stuff for many years, especially when it's just Windows.
Simple: it's just not that bloody expensive.
Apple did run an App Store when the iPhone was new, iPads weren't a thing - and most apps were free or 1 USD - and 5 USD was considered "expensive" for an that. They're basically still running that same App Store today. With Millions of Apps, billions of revenue, and professional apps can run into dozens or hundreds of Dollars. Or subscriptions.
Don't believe all those fanboys in the weekly "anticompetitive conduct" threads justifying Apple's 0% with their claims of the "how expensive it is to run that App Store" (It's not. Whether you find them entirely justified or not, Apple's profit margins on the App Store are likely sky-high).
Let's just wait and see if and how Microsoft's thing will (finally) take off.
Considering MS’s multiple failures at a legitimate AppStore, and the fact that they are just letting Amazon do most of the work of maintaining and curating the apps, how could they possibly charge 30%? I don’t know what the commissions were in the Stores before this, but whatever it was, developers still said no-thanks. ”Jack of all trades is a master of none,” which describes the Windows experience perfectly. Oversized (ie. screen wasting) UI elements to accommodate touch, 2 messy control panels, half-baked new features coming and going, and now partnering with Amazon to bring apps to your PC, most of which were never designed for a tablet, much less a desktop.
I have a non-Mac system in my house, and it runs Linux. That’s how bad things have gotten with Windows in my eyes. I was an all-in MS user about 10 years ago, but the appeal is all gone now. Windows is a mess. I still get to experience it everyday, but it’s at work and I get paid while I’m doing it.
I have a non-Mac system in my house, and it runs Linux. That’s how bad things have gotten with Windows in my eyes. I was an all-in MS user about 10 years ago, but the appeal is all gone now. Windows is a mess. I still get to experience it everyday, but it’s at work and I get paid while I’m doing it.
Windows tablets and others are just dead meat now. The iPad dominates this market and will continue to do so. Forums who hate Apple can criticize this "Toy" OS but it sells and forums certainly aren't even 1/10th of Apple customer base so their opinions are unimportant.
Apple gives their OS updates away as well. But that's because they are in the printer ink market. Only it's apps, not ink. Their margins are only sky-high if you look at that component in isolation. That's not how Apple operates. They subsidize other parts of the business with app sales. Else they would likely need to charge twice as much for hardware in order to make the same margins.
Yes it is. All OS platform data: Windows slowly going downward in terms of percent of all OS in use. Android going upward.
interesting data: iOS and MacOS combined, in the not too-ish near future will run almost as many devices as Windows.
It speaks to how many people are and will be using mobile devices, versus PCs, for online tasks. Windows isn’t going anywhere but their previous massive dominance is relegated to history.
Some don’t or choose not to realize your important point. Upfront hardware, services, apps is virtually all of Apple’s revenue. Their post sale hardware revenue is virtually none. For some other tech companies, they have huge post hardware sale revenue via data mining advertising or to a lesser extent software upgrades.
Apple’s revenue model absolutely relies on those post sale services and apps.
Microsoft is still still a pathetic and non-innovative company, they are getting better now that idiot Balmer is gone. Not only did they copy so much from MacOS to put into Windows 10 and 11 but there presentation style, clothing, different settings are 100% stolen from Apple's annual events. The main guy who is so excited was comical and he seemed kinda down and out.
Best part is MacOS always beat Windows in features, usability, style, etc. but the Apple hardware was always little behind Wintel but with the transition to Apple Silicon the WinTel market will soon be left in the dust.
Best part is MacOS always beat Windows in features, usability, style, etc. but the Apple hardware was always little behind Wintel but with the transition to Apple Silicon the WinTel market will soon be left in the dust.
Windows 11 support for Android apps seems to be the remnant of Microsoft's work in trying to develop a version of Windows to compete with Chrome OS. Bringing that functionality to the full desktop version of Windows is a great move, IMO.
Microsoft is positioning Windows 11 to be the logical "step up" from chromebooks. People who are chromebook-centric rely on the desktop version of the Chrome browser and Android apps. When they need to move beyond that to something a bit more full-function, they can move up to Win 11.
With Edge and Android app support, many workflows can transition near seamlessly to Win 11.
The computers I use on a daily basis are, a 21" iMac, Lenovo Yoga 6, and Google Pixelbook. There's quite a bit of cross-platform work already, Win 11 will significantly improve that.
Microsoft is positioning Windows 11 to be the logical "step up" from chromebooks. People who are chromebook-centric rely on the desktop version of the Chrome browser and Android apps. When they need to move beyond that to something a bit more full-function, they can move up to Win 11.
With Edge and Android app support, many workflows can transition near seamlessly to Win 11.
The computers I use on a daily basis are, a 21" iMac, Lenovo Yoga 6, and Google Pixelbook. There's quite a bit of cross-platform work already, Win 11 will significantly improve that.
You don't have a clue. Large enterprises and even not so large are spending a fortune on Microsoft licenses. They don't have iPhones, iPads, Stores revenue, almost no hardware and yet have almost the same market cap as Apple.
I don’t think people are fully appreciating what a big deal the android thing could potentially be. One of the reasons iPads have been so much better than other tablets is because iPad has been so much better at having the compatibility with both computers and phones. It’s not perfect, but android tablets fall way short of replacing a windows computer and Microsoft tablets don’t have the App Library. With this change, I think a Microsoft tablet running windows 11 is a much more viable competitor to iPad. Total speculation, could be wrong, but this might end up being the push apple needs to finally do stuff with the iPad to make it better as a computer
Maybe. Weird to name it 11 just a few months before macOS 12 though. And unless they start doing yearly releases with new numbers, they’ll very quickly be way behind.
The aesthetics and partnering with Amazon for apps imo shows the trajectory Microsoft is heading. It's to pre-populate the Windows on ARM App Store with compatible apps (via Amazon App Store).
The native vs pwa battle is heating up. Seeing as Flutter apps are cross platform, this is huge news.
Makes me wonder if native really is the future. As science fiction is usually a reliable gauge, it only seems logical that an app should and eventually will run on all operating systems/platforms. A single code-base for all platforms. Next best thing to a crystal ball I guess.
Makes me wonder if native really is the future. As science fiction is usually a reliable gauge, it only seems logical that an app should and eventually will run on all operating systems/platforms. A single code-base for all platforms. Next best thing to a crystal ball I guess.
I agree. If Apple would just bring MacOS to the M1 iPad Pros. iPadOS 15 was a joke.
Maybe for Windows, but not for iOS/iPadOS.
I have yet to see a PWA/Electron/Flutter app that feels as platform native as a native app. There may one, I just have not seen it.
You mean like Flying Cars, Holograms, AI-based avatars that are indistinguishable from real humans?
We already achieved that with Java, and before that MainSAIL, Forth, the UCSD p-machine, and so many others!
I know one Windows-phile otherwise (purely in my own experience) there are only people who need to use Windows., not anyone who wants to use Windows.Say what you want about Android or iOS (nothing is perfect) but I know people who genuinely like using both.
Windows isn't going anywhere but Windows is largely a default for users. Work or specific app requires their usage of Windows. Microsoft themselves are a massively burgeoning cloud business. Their recent market cap reaching above 2 trillion (Microsoft and Apple the only 2 companies with 2 trillion caps) is much more a cloud thing not a Windows thing. They do have well established office and collaboration software like cloud 365 and others that they want on the cloud! and they have a flagship OS that provides steady recurring revenue from new PC purchase installs as well as the relatively lucrative upgrade revenue. But that is in slow but steady decline of the overall OS market. Listen to the regular public you know and think how many speak of 'can't wait to upgrade Windows). There will be a few but not many.
If Google ever releases a thick Android version (assuming its architecture allows this) we may just see Windows share decline quicker. How much that hurts Microsoft in the longer run is very iffy. Their cloud business is that! big and growing. 4 new Data Centers opening in China in the next (I believe?) 2 years. From that perspective the exec management at Microsoft knocked it out of the park. Mobile OS barged in on their revenue stream growth. So they went elsewhere and scored big time.
Windows isn't going anywhere but Windows is largely a default for users. Work or specific app requires their usage of Windows. Microsoft themselves are a massively burgeoning cloud business. Their recent market cap reaching above 2 trillion (Microsoft and Apple the only 2 companies with 2 trillion caps) is much more a cloud thing not a Windows thing. They do have well established office and collaboration software like cloud 365 and others that they want on the cloud! and they have a flagship OS that provides steady recurring revenue from new PC purchase installs as well as the relatively lucrative upgrade revenue. But that is in slow but steady decline of the overall OS market. Listen to the regular public you know and think how many speak of 'can't wait to upgrade Windows). There will be a few but not many.
If Google ever releases a thick Android version (assuming its architecture allows this) we may just see Windows share decline quicker. How much that hurts Microsoft in the longer run is very iffy. Their cloud business is that! big and growing. 4 new Data Centers opening in China in the next (I believe?) 2 years. From that perspective the exec management at Microsoft knocked it out of the park. Mobile OS barged in on their revenue stream growth. So they went elsewhere and scored big time.
Microsoft always has been and likely always will be a me-too company. Normally they always end up f..king that up too.
Wishful thinking indeed -- unless everyone is going to run the same architecture. But we largely did that 2 decades ago with almost the whole world running on X architecture for Windows. Anyone old enough that lived through that would probably argue that wasn't, overall, a good thing.
Competing platforms, on the whole, has proven a boon for users/consumers. Only one way has proven, on the whole, to not be good for consumers/users.
It's funny IMHO the belief that if we make huge companies all interop together it will be good for consumers/users. Nope, actually what your making is a quasi-cartel. It's pie in the sky thinking that that is good for anyone except the big companies that gatekeep a single interop world.
Not a fan of government intervention (generally they make bad worse) yet, regardless, the potential M&A legislation will be interesting for Microsoft. Microsoft and Cisco are two companies that come to mind that made their way through M&A(I don't believe the potential legislation applies to Cisco?). Without M&A Microsoft, previously, would have been much more interesting to watch. But now their cloud business has moved the ground quite a bit for Microsoft.
In terms of 'tech', Microsoft is likely the least 'excitement generating' company out there. But their many years of sustained revenue/profit generating prowess is almost peerless.
Nightmare on cross platform react native last time. now just do pure swiftui /java only. Some small company thinking it was cheap enough using flutter. No 3x time and cost.