boss.king
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It's probably booting off an SSD though, which would greatly improve boot time on its own. Windows 7 boots off an SSD in little over 20 seconds. 8 Seconds is still very impressive though
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It's probably booting off an SSD though, which would greatly improve boot time on its own. Windows 7 boots off an SSD in little over 20 seconds. 8 Seconds is still very impressive though
ct2k7
macrumors G3
It is booting off an SSD, however, I expect it only to be a few seconds longer. Either way, they're looking to reduce the number of reboots that we have to do.
I don't think they're using an OCZ one somehow 😛
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
I'd settle for window-based controls in OSX. Multiple monitors in OSX is just HORRIBLE because the menu bar is only available on ONE of the monitors. This is why some pro-tools type programs like Logic Pro have their own "ribbon-like" control buttons on them so you can use the thing on a 2nd monitor without having to go to the task bar. It's sad Apple simply couldn't offer a task bar on BOTH monitors (or even a smart one that functions for programs on the monitor you're on or the mouse is on). No no. That's probably a feature for OSX 10.9 or maybe 10.10 or something....
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ct2k7
macrumors G3
I have used many of the various Windows incarnation, and I like Windows 7 the best. It has a clean simple look. Its the easy to use and configure. I hope they don't depart from this by adding too many "enhancements" that over-complicates the OS and ruins it.
SactoGuy18
macrumors 603
I still think the "Professional" edition will lack the "Metro" UI--corporate managers prefer it that way. Corporate installations are designed for machines without touchpad screens, so the familiar UI we've seen with Windows 7 makes sense here.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
What you're seeing from MS in key markets today (mobile, "PC operating system", etc.) is a reaction to changing market forces that they were unprepared for and that others had already taken by the horns, mastered, and now dictate.
Unfortunately, in the current market conditions, no one has a great deal of time to eventually "get it." MS doesn't have years to see projects through anymore.
The degree to which all this will impact the next version of Windows - its reception, relevance and role in the market - remains to be seen.
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jaw04005
macrumors 601
People forget, but Microsoft really tried to pull the Web experience into the OS with Windows 95 + Internet Explorer 4/Windows 98. You could take snippets of web pages and put them on your desktop as widgets. I remember creating a crazy animated GIF desktop and an HTML-based bookmark widget. They were really ahead of their time, one might even call them innovative during the browser wars.
Of course, the HTML-based explorer end up being a security nightmare but it was still cool.
ct2k7
macrumors G3
It may be a reaction, but it's a bloody great one.
The market was always changing. Turning to metro, a more simplistic design, has been on the cards for a very long time.
Windows is still very relevant in the world, even more so than OS X and Linux, combined. Microsoft knows and it can control what we are heading towards in terms of desktop, and we're only approaching it with a versatile operating system that is becoming more streamlined per release.
TeamRetic
macrumors newbie
Windows 8 is terrible, but I will have to test the beta and RC to see if it got better. The Windows 8 developer version came out the other day and I installed it. It is very confusing to me and it is way different then Windows 7. It needs a lot of fixes or no one is going to buy it. It does not have a start menu and I have to tweak it to make it have one.
So here's what you do. Instead of saying "its not like x", try using it how its meant to be used and see if you like it. Plus its not even beta yet so obviously it needs a lot of fixes.
After initial set up of the computer there is not much need for a start menu anymore. Just search from the start page on 8. I agree that it was annoying, when I was initially trying to figure out drivers for my switchable graphics, how I had to search and then to to settings and find the device manager there.
After that its pretty much used to search for something like an application or to access a certain part of the file system (Documents for example). All can be done just as easily from the start screen on 8 and various apps and contracts that have the ability to do what you are trying to accomplish.
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ct2k7
macrumors G3
So... it's pre-beta, and meant for developers. I don't find it confusing. It's not "way different" to Windows 7, it's still NT 6.x, so they are on the same main branch.
Again, it's pre-beta, so I don't know why you are complaining about fixes.
You obviously don't understand Windows 8 changes to state that it does not have a start menu. The Start view replaces the start menu. It gives an overall simple view of things.
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I'm not sure UNIX allows this.
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MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
His English you quoted is grammatically correct so I assume you have problem with the mental imagery invoked or something? 😕
Honestly, I think it looks really bad for someone to whine about something that is grammatically correct, particularly when your own post is not as such. 😕
'It' belongs next to the three periods, not spaced since it's part of the same sentence, not starting a new one. A space would be correct if you used four periods, which indicates a new sentence starting after a pause. The comma after pre-beta is wrong and shouldn't be there at all. Finally, you have a run-on sentence after "Windows 7".
Have a nice day. 😛
ct2k7
macrumors G3
Given that you want to start an argument, I am obliged to post a response.
I advise you to re-read what I had quoted, then conclude. There are a few grammatical errors and inaccuracies.
In your penultimate paragraph, you stated, "'It' belongs next to the three periods, not spaced since it's part of the same sentence, not starting a new one.". Would I be correct in assuming that you were referring to the first occurrence within that section quoted? You appear to have a fragmented sentence.
Given that no text was removed since said text was not a member of a source text, the requirement for the removal of the space is not compulsory.
The comma after "pre-beta", yes that needs to be in quotation marks, is not compulsory but is also not incorrect. Read the sentence aloud to yourself - without the quote, the sentence does not flow yet it is coherent. Finally, the two sentences are not independent. Allow me to rephrase it, though both are formally correct:
"It is not "way different" to Windows 7, it is in fact part of the NT 6.x family and on the same branch as Windows 7."
I would like to thank you for time in accosting me pertinent to this matter.
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
I don't want to start an argument. I wanted to point out the hypocrisy in chastising someone for their "terrible" English when your own post contained grammatical errors.
mrsir2009
macrumors 604
What? Win7 boots up on a SSD in 20 secs? The netbooks at my school have SSDs (fairly modern ones) and they take over a minute just to get to the login screen on Win7.
So you think that Windows doesnt boot up on a machine in 20 seconds because your school machines dont? There's a ton of behind the scenes stuff going on with work and school computers that need to run so they can be on the network and be maintained by the school.
On my computer I am browsing in 30 seconds. Login screen at 27. Thats with my AMD/Intel switchable graphics slowing boot a lot though. 20 is easy without.
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
Try loading those 20 second machines down with a lot of software and fill that Windows registry up and see how fast they boot then.... 😉
MSFT still hasn't learned it's lesson. Windows 8 is still bloated to the gills with Registry!
Agreed, and what I hate about Windows is that it comes preloaded with all this bull crap unless you buy through a special means (like online or whatever). I like my new computer coming fresh, with no stuff loaded onto it.
Of course, if you upgrade it doesn't come with all that stuff. Just if you buy it with a new computer.
boss.king
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And they're probably loaded to the brim with crap that runs at startup. My laptop boots Windows 7 in about a minute without an SSD. If you manage a computer properly it will work properly.
EDIT: Just checked, 1:07 from powered off to fully usable.
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