Is Google's hardware support any better than their software support? Because their software support truly sucks.
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With Android 5.0 Lollipop looking so good, where does iOS go from here?
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Is Google's hardware support any better than their software support? Because their software support truly sucks.
Proving your point by linking a video of a year old Android phone with the newest Android OS compared to a new iPhone running the newest iOS isn't exactly unbiased.
Android doesn't just fill up and get slow any more. It fully supports TRIM. So you can scratch that one off the list.
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Not for Nexus devices it doesn't.
Even Google apps on iOS embarrass Apple in what they are trying to do lately.
Google Maps > Maps
Google Now > Siri
I have an iPhone 6 but under no illusions as to who is putting out better software right now.
No its just pointing out the same symptoms. We are looking for the same old signs of response latency in the programming and I'm sure the difference wouldn't be made by throwing more specs at the problem.
Its not a horsepower issue, that phone has enough power to have a smooth pinch zoom, its just not designed in the code.
Even the 3GS iPhone was powerful enough to make smooth animations on a raw graphics processing level. But thats because the OS was and is designed smarter with a priority on a low latency, high resolution OS navigation system.
On Android its just not enough of a priority and it STILL hasn't caught up. The symptoms persist even in Lollipop despite the fact they advertised that they did something new and built it from the ground up. Maybe its just impossible to make a smooth open source navigation system!
Either you have open compatibility with any and all garbage or you have smooth OS behavior.
As of 2014 no engineers have been able to make both happen at the same time.
Apple can do it, but only by keeping a closed system.
Android has an open system, but can't control what happens enough to keep it smooth and tight with the proper priority given to CPU cycles that run the navigation system of the OS vs everything else that happens.
Id be curious if Apple created feature parity and openness that was as open as Android but could still maintain priority to GUI and make it solid battery life as well.
Like is it a lack of know how by anyone other than Apple? Or is it an actually logistical barrier of programming principles and the limits of CPU instructions and the balance of that priority in an open system vs a closed one.
Are Google engineers just stupid, or do they have a real logistical limitation due to the open and sloppy fragmented nature of the system and sea of various hardware that they have to support which is why they haven't been able to overcome this issue for half a decade?
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Trim came out a long time ago. The symptom stands as of today in the post-trim era.
The problem isn't just re-writing cells. There are various factors that cause bloat.
The fact is, just like Windows, if you redo a fresh install after a year of using it, it will run faster for awhile as a brand new install. And then get sluggish as you install things. And it runs better if you don't install things.
With the iOS and Mac, as long as the hardware is not too outdated it will never change or benefit you to reinstall the OS.
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I agree with you about the optimisation and lag etc. iOS still runs better.
My point was that Android has caught up if not surpassed in *aesthetics* and looks in some cases.
Apple has full control over iOS and OSX, as well as the hardware they choose for their devices which they highly optimize. It's why the iPhone 6/6+ are running at ~ 1.4Ghz and still have 1GB of RAM, whereas flagship Android phones are running at much higher clock speeds with 3GB of RAM. Android needs that RAM because of how it manages memory.
So you're pretty much right, but the difference is much more marginal than it ever was before. Most users don't recognize it. Plus, we're biased to believe one is superior because we're just biased in general.
iOS UI = better than Android (my opinion). Android has been playing catchup to iOS in terms of UI. If you'd prefer to move to Android though then do so. iOS is doing fine and the far superior platform for me.
Also, Google voice search is NOT better than Siri. It's better at search based stuff but Siri is a virtual assistant. It has a completely different purpose. Also, Google Now is something completely different. It's that card based thing, not the voice search.
The only one I would agree with is Google Maps > Apple Maps but even then only by a small margin. Google Maps isn't always accurate either.
I recently came from Android to iOS when I got an iPhone 6 and I can assure you iOS isn't in any trouble. To the right market, it's the superior platform.
Also, Google voice search is NOT better than Siri. It's better at search based stuff but Siri is a virtual assistant. It has a completely different purpose. Also, Google Now is something completely different. It's that card based thing, not the voice search.
The only one I would agree with is Google Maps > Apple Maps but even then only by a small margin. Google Maps isn't always accurate either.
I recently came from Android to iOS when I got an iPhone 6 and I can assure you iOS isn't in any trouble. To the right market, it's the superior platform.
Yes Apple's is the superior platform. But do you feel Android has started to *look* better aesthetically with Lollipop?
dude, no matter what you say , iOS is still more consistent with frame rate and GPU performance, running developer Lollipop on my Nexus 5 and it has crashed the chrome browser on a few websites, and on some websites the pinch lag is pretty bad... Lollipop is quite close to UI frame rate and consistency as iOS though, its defitnetly better then KitKat but not 100% still
and dude, iPhones are notorious for not ever really slowing down over the course of the device lifespan (unless you have owned the device for a few years and its on its last software support then that is understandable) but in their first 2 years or so, iPhones dont get slowed down, the file system doesnt slow the phone down really at all, my old i5 laying around that is on iOS 8.1 is essentially just asfast as it was 2 years ago. (actually even faster in certain applications like Safari, etc) this is nonsense.
what does it matter if it is a year old phone? it has a Quad core processor clocked at 2.3 ghz , and also has double the RAM of the i6, and it still can't perform better?
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Finally Google gets it right after so many years of now what it means to have a consistent, very fluid OS, welcome to the party Google, your a few years late haha... no but Lollipop does look really nice too, best thing about iOS over Android too? Material Design is all coming to iOS too, and that Google actually releases updates first of their applications on iOS first over Android, and that some Google applications are actually superior on iOS then it is Android lol...you have Google's whole entire ecosystem on iOS aswell.
As a long time android user who has recently switched to iOS, all apps are far more polished on iOS vs their android counterpart. There are so many that I can't possibly list them all. One of the biggest examples is the Bleacher Report app. Compare those two and tell me that they look the same
Clock speed doesn't mean anything, everyone should know that. The A7 and A8 are impressive processors and can hold their own against quad core Arm chips from other manufacturers. I'm just pointing out that his comparison is flawed. It is akin to comparing the iPhone 5 to the 5s both running iOS 7 and pointing out that the 5s runs the OS better.
*edit* Beyond that, the iPhone 6 starts at $650 and goes to $850, while the Nexus 5 starts at $350 and goes to $400. iOS has had several updates, while Android lollipop isn't even officially available for the Nexus 5.
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i absolutely detest the ios 7/8 design.
i am happy i moved on to android when ios 7 came out. the whole "ecosystem" barrier is just in your head. Yes you may have to repurchase some apps but if you have a gmail account you can sync all your stuff with your Mac (contacts, calendar, notes, etc.) There are good apps to sync music with itunes without itunes telling you it will delete your stuff because the content wasn't in your Mac in the first place.
to me, whilst apple still makes the best PCs and notebooks, it has slipped behind Google in terms of cloud services, phone OS and apps; as well as with other OEMs in terms of phone design.
i am happy i moved on to android when ios 7 came out. the whole "ecosystem" barrier is just in your head. Yes you may have to repurchase some apps but if you have a gmail account you can sync all your stuff with your Mac (contacts, calendar, notes, etc.) There are good apps to sync music with itunes without itunes telling you it will delete your stuff because the content wasn't in your Mac in the first place.
to me, whilst apple still makes the best PCs and notebooks, it has slipped behind Google in terms of cloud services, phone OS and apps; as well as with other OEMs in terms of phone design.
I buy Apple for the ease of use and it's superior build quality
My iphone 6's build quality doesn't impress me
And lollipop looks like android is becoming easier and easier to use.
My next phone may not be an iPhone after all
We'll see in 2 years
My iphone 6's build quality doesn't impress me
And lollipop looks like android is becoming easier and easier to use.
My next phone may not be an iPhone after all
We'll see in 2 years
To those living in apple cocoon ios is god send. To those of us living in the real diverse world ios just CMI.
Ios can you please not be blinded loner sitting at one corner...
...fix the crippled email attachment support
...fix the lethargic and slow scrolling speed
...let us airdrop to non apple devices.
...don't cripple nfc so that we can program it to do useful stuff.
...fix imessage so those of us who don't want to be isolated from the world can get messages from non apple users.
...fix the crap global settings
...allow USB host/drive.
Ios can you please not be blinded loner sitting at one corner...
...fix the crippled email attachment support
...fix the lethargic and slow scrolling speed
...let us airdrop to non apple devices.
...don't cripple nfc so that we can program it to do useful stuff.
...fix imessage so those of us who don't want to be isolated from the world can get messages from non apple users.
...fix the crap global settings
...allow USB host/drive.
IOS does allow USB host. I use it all the time with my USB microphone and apps such as Audioshare and Wavepad.
That's what I was saying. Android's UI improved with KitKat and then improved even more vastly with Lollipop. However, I personally feel iOS has had it down with the aesthetics from day one. Many people didn't like the UI changes that came with iOS 7/8 but I still find it to be the more aesthetically pleasing platform. I do appreciate Android's theming capabilities though.
No it doesn't you moron.
Having both, they are not. Now **** and gtfo.
As long as Android allows entire OS skinning like TouchWIZ and bloatware, it will never be on the same level as iOS.
Please ask the one who said "uhhhh...no" to prove first since that started my response. You don't want to be hypocrite? Or do you?