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No its just pointing out the same symptoms. We are looking for the same old signs of response latency in the programming and I'm sure the difference wouldn't be made by throwing more specs at the problem.

Its not a horsepower issue, that phone has enough power to have a smooth pinch zoom, its just not designed in the code.

Even the 3GS iPhone was powerful enough to make smooth animations on a raw graphics processing level. But thats because the OS was and is designed smarter with a priority on a low latency, high resolution OS navigation system.

On Android its just not enough of a priority and it STILL hasn't caught up. The symptoms persist even in Lollipop despite the fact they advertised that they did something new and built it from the ground up. Maybe its just impossible to make a smooth open source navigation system!

Either you have open compatibility with any and all garbage or you have smooth OS behavior.

As of 2014 no engineers have been able to make both happen at the same time.

Apple can do it, but only by keeping a closed system.

Android has an open system, but can't control what happens enough to keep it smooth and tight with the proper priority given to CPU cycles that run the navigation system of the OS vs everything else that happens.

Id be curious if Apple created feature parity and openness that was as open as Android but could still maintain priority to GUI and make it solid battery life as well.

Like is it a lack of know how by anyone other than Apple? Or is it an actually logistical barrier of programming principles and the limits of CPU instructions and the balance of that priority in an open system vs a closed one.

Are Google engineers just stupid, or do they have a real logistical limitation due to the open and sloppy fragmented nature of the system and sea of various hardware that they have to support which is why they haven't been able to overcome this issue for half a decade?

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Trim came out a long time ago. The symptom stands as of today in the post-trim era.

The problem isn't just re-writing cells. There are various factors that cause bloat.

The fact is, just like Windows, if you redo a fresh install after a year of using it, it will run faster for awhile as a brand new install. And then get sluggish as you install things. And it runs better if you don't install things.

With the iOS and Mac, as long as the hardware is not too outdated it will never change or benefit you to reinstall the OS.

The fanboy is strong within this one...
 
I'm using lollipop on my 2014 Moto X. I can tell you the speed and fluidity of getting things done is much better than on my other phone. The iPhone 6 Plus. I personally feel that it looks better too.

On the other hand because I love lollipop so much I went out and bought a nexus 9 which I thought could replaced my iPad Air 2. Not a chance in hell. The iPad air 2 blows it away in performance and I like the look and feel of the iPad better.

Moral of the story both OS's are great. Everybody has their own opinions. But the hardware definitely makes a difference.
 
Please ask the one who said "uhhhh...no" to prove first since that started my response. You don't want to be hypocrite? Or do you?

Oh gee, I dunno

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Android fanboy much brah?

Just gtfo
 
This is all you can come out with? So Pathetic. isnt this thread talking about android?.

...and you are still rude.

Deflection at its finest.

Yes, proof that you're only on this board to tout Android is all I can come up with. Amazing you only have started pro Android threads and post in Android vs iOS threads, siding with Android.

Nothing odd about that.
 
Deflection at its finest.

Yes, proof that you're only on this board to tout Android is all I can come up with. Amazing you only have started pro Android threads and post in Android vs iOS thread and siding with Android.

Nothing odd about that.
Maybe you want to show how major apps don't look same in both platofrms? ....or continue being just an empty shot.
 
Maybe you want to show how major apps don't look same in both platofrms? ....or continue being just an empty shot.

Or I don't need to given your motive on this forum?

It's clear you're going to side with Android regardless.

Do you even own an iPhone or iOS device?
 
Or I don't need to given your motive on this forum?

It's clear you're going to side with Android regardless.

Do you even own an iPhone or iOS device?
You are deflecting.

What does it matter which side I am on? What matters is the topic at hand... how major apps look on both platforms. You are just the same as the one who said "....uhhhh nope".... empty shots
 
To those living in apple cocoon ios is god send. To those of us living in the real diverse world ios just CMI.

Ios can you please not be blinded loner sitting at one corner...
...fix the crippled email attachment support
...fix the lethargic and slow scrolling speed
...let us airdrop to non apple devices.
...don't cripple nfc so that we can program it to do useful stuff.
...fix imessage so those of us who don't want to be isolated from the world can get messages from non apple users.
...fix the crap global settings
...allow USB host/drive.

Dont get the iMessage part at all, its seanlessly incorporated in the Messages application, you dont have to use imessage lol..there are countless other options (i find iMessage to be the best because most people I know do have iphones and Im able to send hd videos and files and stuff like that easily over iMessage fast, cant do that on Googles native built in application Google Hangouts)
 
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You are deflecting.

What does it matter which side I am on? What matters is the topic at hand... how major apps look on both platforms. You are just the same as the one who said "....uhhhh nope".... empty shots

You should really look up the definition of 'deflection' before using it.

It's clear you don't even own an iPhone yet participate on an Apple forum. How comical :cool:
 
You are deflecting.

What does it matter which side I am on? What matters is the topic at hand... how major apps look on both platforms. You are just the same as the one who said "....uhhhh nope".... empty shots


Why can't we send hd videos and files and stuff like that as easily on Googles native built in application Google Hangouts?
 
Why can't we send hd videos and files and stuff like that as easily on Googles native built in application Google Hangouts?
I am not sure. Maybe it is coming. Not that many people use Hangout anyway. Whatsapp or wechat are what people use.

Btw
"native built in" - no such thing on android.
 
This has got to be the first discussion of this kind. I don't think I've ever seen this debate before.
 
Its like Mac vs Windows. Windows used to be a lot worse, then it surpassed Mac. Now Yosemite has sort of been catching up to windows and looking better, though it still doesnt have touchscreen, etc.

Its one thing to start a revolution, its another thing to keep the hype up. Android L does look sweet oh so sweet.
 
Its like Mac vs Windows. Windows used to be a lot worse, then it surpassed Mac. Now Yosemite has sort of been catching up to windows and looking better, though it still doesnt have touchscreen, etc.

Its one thing to start a revolution, its another thing to keep the hype up. Android L does look sweet oh so sweet.

Are you high? This is not even remotely close to "Mac" vs "Windows," albeit such a debate doesn't exist. Mac is a brand while Windows is an OS.

Regardless of the above, you're confused with functionality and UI.

I'd recommend that you refrain from posting.
 
You should really look up the definition of 'deflection' before using it.

It's clear you don't even own an iPhone yet participate on an Apple forum. How comical :cool:
As i have guessed...Empty shots

Still waiting for your response on why major apps are different and better on ios..
 
Its like Mac vs Windows. Windows used to be a lot worse, then it surpassed Mac. Now Yosemite has sort of been catching up to windows and looking better, though it still doesnt have touchscreen, etc.

Its one thing to start a revolution, its another thing to keep the hype up. Android L does look sweet oh so sweet.

Oh gosh, here we go...
 
Until Android has a legitimate, premium device running pure, vanilla android, iOS will remain superior as its more premium phones are simply better than their android equivalent.

The Nexus 9 and Nexus 6 are better, but not as premium as what is happening with the iPhone now.

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Its like Mac vs Windows. Windows used to be a lot worse, then it surpassed Mac. Now Yosemite has sort of been catching up to windows and looking better, though it still doesnt have touchscreen, etc.

Its one thing to start a revolution, its another thing to keep the hype up. Android L does look sweet oh so sweet.

This is completely wrong. Windows is trash and has been for some time. OS X has been better since its inception.

Android L looks good, but android OEMs are bad and the non-vanilla experience is just unacceptable.
 
All major apps look the same on both platforms. You have no idea what you are saying.

Exactly. Android is buttery smooth these days on lesser hardware as well, while iOS is a glitch stutter mess. Sony phones (I'm eying the Sony forums now to see if that's my next phone but waiting for issues to arise on the new releases) are UNDERwaterproof, have magnetic quick charging, tiny bezels, don't bend, 20Mp camera, etc etc etc etc and zero software limitations. Last year the 5s with 7.1.2 was the best phone on the market. This year, NOT lol.

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Uhhhh. Yes

lol upvote competition lol:D
 
Until Android has a legitimate, premium device running pure, vanilla android, iOS will remain superior as its more premium phones are simply better than their android equivalent.

The Nexus 9 and Nexus 6 are better, but not as premium as what is happening with the iPhone now.

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This is completely wrong. Windows is trash and has been for some time. OS X has been better since its inception.

Android L looks good, but android OEMs are bad and the non-vanilla experience is just unacceptable.
I won't go as far to say windows is trash. But one thing I do notice is the app development environment in window (ie Visual studio) is light years better than xcode.
 
Here's my take, No matter how good Android becomes they will NEVER be able to match the after sales support of Apple. NEVER. I can walk into ANY Apple store if my phone has a problem, head to the genius bar, and get a 'newfurbished' phone and walk out, or I can have them overnight me a phone while I send them back the faulty unit for free. My iPhone syncs with my Mac flawlessly. I also get updates the day they're released. With Android I will get them a year later when a newer version of Android will probably will be available which I will probably have to wait another year for.

You people need to start looking at the bigger picture here. It's about the complete user experience, not just about the iPhone. Is the iPhone perfect? No it isn't. iOS has gone down the hell hole with all of it's lag and many other issues. Apple will fix it though.I've never held an Android phone that feels anywhere near as good to hold or has the quality of an iPhone. Apple doesn't use cheap plastic. I've had many different Android devices, everything ranging from Galaxy's to the Nexus 5 to the HTC M7. None of them offer anywhere near the complete experience as Apple.

I still have the HTC One M7 and Galaxy S4 sitting on my desk, both collecting dust.
 
Here's my take, No matter how good Android becomes they will NEVER be able to match the after sales support of Apple. NEVER. I can walk into ANY Apple store if my phone has a problem, head to the genius bar, and get a 'newfurbished' phone and walk out, or I can have them overnight me a phone while I send them back the faulty unit for free. My iPhone syncs with my Mac flawlessly. I also get updates the day they're released. With Android I will get them a year later when a newer version of Android will probably will be available which I will probably have to wait another year for.

You people need to start looking at the bigger picture here. It's about the complete user experience, not just about the iPhone. Is the iPhone perfect? No it isn't. iOS has gone down the hell hole with all of it's lag and many other issues. Apple will fix it though.I've never held an Android phone that feels anywhere near as good to hold or has the quality of an iPhone. Apple doesn't use cheap plastic. I've had many different Android devices, everything ranging from Galaxy's to the Nexus 5 to the HTC M7. None of them offer anywhere near the complete experience as Apple.

I still have the HTC One M7 and Galaxy S4 sitting on my desk, both collecting dust.
Of course this must be expected when you are willing to pay for the iphone at 3x more expensive than others with similar or superior specs.
 
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